orion Posted December 6 Report Share Posted December 6 3 minutes ago, CoffeeandTV said: Surely signing a former Grand Prix winner on a 4.5 average (if true) is anything but a What does it matter what they done in the past.. He's wash up now...Bit like saying in Football we just signed ex Pl winner Eric Cantona on a free transfer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeandTV Posted December 6 Report Share Posted December 6 1 minute ago, orion said: What does it matter what they done in the past.. He's wash up now...Bit like saying in Football we just signed ex Pl winner Eric Cantona on a free transfer Not really. Eric Cantona last played professional football 27 years and is 58. Peter Kildemand last won a Grand Prix 8 years ago and is 35. You're entitled to your opinion, but I look forward to him proving you wrong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeandTV Posted December 6 Report Share Posted December 6 25 minutes ago, Colinspeedway said: All depends if they make use of the available remaining points Fair point. But you've got to feel a big signing is on the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marksman Posted December 6 Report Share Posted December 6 1 hour ago, arnieg said: Although the reference is to 'established average' not 2024 average and although PK did not ride in PL2 (now the 'National league') this year he does have an established average from 2023 which might push him up to 4.50. This is the wording it just says ‘Published average’ from the previous season i.e 2024 Each category must be looked at in order, starting with number 1. The riders average to be considered is to be the published average over 18 or more heats in the previous season (converted to meet British Speedway standards) and if the rider fits in more than one category the higher average is to be used. 98 Speedway Control Bureau Regulations If 18 heats have not been completed the next category down will be applied, proof of which must be submitted to the BSP office for approval before the Team Declaration is submitted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSmiler Posted December 6 Report Share Posted December 6 Interesting signing! Not too sure about this one. Still feel like Oxford need another big hitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted December 6 Report Share Posted December 6 (edited) 1 hour ago, CoffeeandTV said: Not really. Eric Cantona last played professional football 27 years and is 58. Peter Kildemand last won a Grand Prix 8 years ago and is 35. You're entitled to your opinion, but I look forward to him proving you wrong! You can find loads of examples of people who were good at there sport 8 years ago and are no good now. Killer winning a GP is irrelevant .. Who the next signing Ryan Sullivan ? Edited December 6 by orion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted December 6 Report Share Posted December 6 4 hours ago, SandyLaner said: Anyone could have picked him up on a 4 but didn't... that's not an Oxford problem? Indeed not, its a Speedway problem Potentially a shrewd move by Oxford and even if it doesn't really work out there is unlikely to be too much detriment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted December 6 Report Share Posted December 6 1 hour ago, CoffeeandTV said: Not really. Eric Cantona last played professional football 27 years and is 58. Peter Kildemand last won a Grand Prix 8 years ago and is 35. You're entitled to your opinion, but I look forward to him proving you wrong! When Greg Hancock was 35 he still had three World Championships ahead of him. Plenty of sportsmen stay at the top longer these days but it doesn’t get any easier physically as you get older. Kildemand could do well but he does have a number of crashes behind him that tend to cause riders to lose their edge, especially if they are married with kids. I’d like to see Kildemand turn the years back but I don’t think anyone will really know until the season starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted December 6 Report Share Posted December 6 2 hours ago, orion said: Terrible signing .He pretty much washed up..Even when he was good he had more Crashes than a Spectrum 48 k computer. Very funny when Spires make a signing that winds up poor old Orion. Last season Magic - the season ahead Kildemand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaddlebowRoad Posted December 6 Report Share Posted December 6 42 minutes ago, orion said: You can find loads of examples of people who were good at there sport 8 years ago and are no good now. Killer winning a GP is irrelevant .. Who the next signing Ryan Sullivan ? i agree hes washed up but well worth the risk if hes on a 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamish McRaker Posted December 6 Report Share Posted December 6 Was he awarded Danish sportsperson of the year or something similar, only a few years ago? From what I can vaguely recall, shoulder injuries seemed to take their toll on him, as they tend to do with a great many riders. Maybe that has accounted for relatively low amount of league riding in recent years and maybe he's now physically fixed to try to step things back up again. If so, the risk could be worthwhile for Oxford especially if he is being realistic with money. Or am I thinking of someone else but can't recall the name? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeandTV Posted December 6 Report Share Posted December 6 1 hour ago, orion said: You can find loads of examples of people who were good at there sport 8 years ago and are no good now. Killer winning a GP is irrelevant .. Who the next signing Ryan Sullivan ? You're not very good at comparing people of similar ages are you? 😁 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeandTV Posted December 6 Report Share Posted December 6 42 minutes ago, E I Addio said: When Greg Hancock was 35 he still had three World Championships ahead of him. Plenty of sportsmen stay at the top longer these days but it doesn’t get any easier physically as you get older. Kildemand could do well but he does have a number of crashes behind him that tend to cause riders to lose their edge, especially if they are married with kids. I’d like to see Kildemand turn the years back but I don’t think anyone will really know until the season starts. Absolutely, I completely agree. But - as other people have said - he's surely worth the risk on a 4/4.5? How many active Grand Prix winners are available on that sort of average? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted December 6 Report Share Posted December 6 27 minutes ago, lucifer sam said: Very funny when Spires make a signing that winds up poor old Orion. Last season Magic - the season ahead Kildemand. I said the whole team.was over rated and they would not make the play offs and Magic was not a big hitting number one..of course the normal suspects came on here saying they prove me wrong ..how did that end up ?. I also remember people saying how Lewis Kerr would be the best reserve in the league..lol ..The one think I've pick up from.the Oxford promotion is that have no intention of trying to win this league as last team changes or lack of them and now this side has shown..Now we got the same this year with the signing of Crash Bandicoot.Greg Hancock etc may have 35 but we're still active and at the top of there game something that Crash is not . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackInTheDHSS Posted December 6 Report Share Posted December 6 5 minutes ago, orion said: I said the whole team.was over rated and they would not make the play offs and Magic was not a big hitting number one..of course the normal suspects came on here saying they prove me wrong ..how did that end up ?. I also remember people saying how Lewis Kerr would be the best reserve in the league..lol ..The one think I've pick up from.the Oxford promotion is that have no intention of trying to win this league as last team changes or lack of them and now this side has shown..Now we got the same this year with the signing of Crash Bandicoot.Greg Hancock etc may have 35 but we're still active and at the top of there game something that Crash is not . The punctuation is hurting my eyes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauldoveyspeedway Posted December 6 Report Share Posted December 6 8 minutes ago, CoffeeandTV said: Absolutely, I completely agree. But - as other people have said - he's surely worth the risk on a 4/4.5? How many active Grand Prix winners are available on that sort of average? Depends on what ave he comes in on ..Bargain on 5 ish or under and number 6...Leaves room for a big hitter... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longmeadow Posted December 6 Report Share Posted December 6 Hans Nielsen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted December 6 Report Share Posted December 6 1 hour ago, CoffeeandTV said: Absolutely, I completely agree. But - as other people have said - he's surely worth the risk on a 4/4.5? How many active Grand Prix winners are available on that sort of average? I don’t know anymore. If someone is on a 4/4.5 You are talking about someone who you expect to hover just inside or outside your reserve position and win some of the less important races both at home and away if the team are to do anything. I would say Kildemand still has the experience to beat a lot of second string/reserve level riders but for the sort of money he probably wants the promotion would probably expect him to be almost a third heatleader at home and score enough points away to enable the team to a few away wins. Whether he can do that is anybody’s guess. If you think of riders like Hans Andersen, Peter Karlsson and even Jason Crump to a certain extent they all went off the boil fairly quickly when they got to a certain age. So to sign Kildemand is a certainly a risk but it really depends on what exactly they want from him and who else is in the team. I would love to see him do well but the promotion need to go into this with their eyes open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted December 6 Report Share Posted December 6 Kildemand 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I thought King's Lynn in recent season put some 💩 teams together but my God, this is right up there. It does not look good bruv 🤪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted December 6 Report Share Posted December 6 54 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: Kildemand 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I thought King's Lynn in recent season put some 💩 teams together but my God, this is right up there. It does not look good bruv 🤪 Judging by your profile picture you know plenty about under performing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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