Plymouth 2025

[Youhave2minutes]

1 minute ago, TTT said:

JT confirmed.

What John Thomas ( old cock)

[wtf]

6 hours ago, Sings4Speedway said:

I love Alfie but can't help he is just playing it safe/stalling his career with convenient regular Plymouth rather than push on elsewhere.

I'm not sure he's been awash with phone calls, he's on an awkward average where others want to take a chance on an unknown and gain an asset. I'm not sure how much he can do to push on by forcing a move elsewhere? 

[AndiCapp]

Vaclav Milik 5.75

[HGould]

Looking around the other declared or strongly rumoured line up's if Bowtell and Joe Thompson (who was presumably much sought after on that average) are 4th and 5th in line up in terms of average, with Barker at no higher than 3rd, then Plymouth would not be the weakest 3-4-5 by any means.

As always for them it's all about getting a couple of bona fide heat leaders.

A fit Covatti would be an excellent No 2.

 

[Noelinho]

12 hours ago, AndiCapp said:

Vaclav Milik 5.75

He should be 6.16.

[paulboy]

On 11/21/2024 at 9:55 AM, SaddlebowRoad said:

 

be humble guys

Behave, they're Poole fans lol

[torpointfanatic22]

On 11/22/2024 at 8:36 AM, HGould said:

Looking around the other declared or strongly rumoured line up's if Bowtell and Joe Thompson (who was presumably much sought after on that average) are 4th and 5th in line up in terms of average, with Barker at no higher than 3rd, then Plymouth would not be the weakest 3-4-5 by any means.

As always for them it's all about getting a couple of bona fide heat leaders.

A fit Covatti would be an excellent No 2.

 

No surprise to see Alfie and Joe back. Be interesting to see if the plan is to start with Alfie at reserve.

If I've read it right, with reductions they come in on 5.07 & 5.63 respectively. Assuming Barker will be named in due course (believe he'd be 5.87). I make that 16.57, leaving a healthy 23.43 and would be a solid, if not spectacular engine room.

Will be interesting if that is the 3-4-5 as you suggest. Barker can't be anything higher than the 3rd heat leader if Plymouth are to be more competitive this season. 

Not convinced by Covatti on his starting average but let's wait and see.

[HGould]

26 minutes ago, torpointfanatic22 said:

No surprise to see Alfie and Joe back. Be interesting to see if the plan is to start with Alfie at reserve.

If I've read it right, with reductions they come in on 5.07 & 5.63 respectively. Assuming Barker will be named in due course (believe he'd be 5.87). I make that 16.57, leaving a healthy 23.43 and would be a solid, if not spectacular engine room.

Will be interesting if that is the 3-4-5 as you suggest. Barker can't be anything higher than the 3rd heat leader if Plymouth are to be more competitive this season. 

Not convinced by Covatti on his starting average but let's wait and see.

Wonder if they may shell out like they did with Crump and Bjaerne?

Zagar is going to be in UK most Mondays for Brummies , can they still ride Plymouth Home matches on a Tuesday?, he's ridden for Trelawny so will know Phillips?.

Not sure what his CL average would be but he could make 5 starts round Plymouth and be almost undeatable round there. Win your home matches that's key?

 

[AndiCapp]

On 11/23/2024 at 12:47 PM, HGould said:

Wonder if they may shell out like they did with Crump and Bjaerne?

Zagar is going to be in UK most Mondays for Brummies , can they still ride Plymouth Home matches on a Tuesday?, he's ridden for Trelawny so will know Phillips?.

Not sure what his CL average would be but he could make 5 starts round Plymouth and be almost undeatable round there. Win your home matches that's key?

 

Has he not been announced yet? 

[magnus]

10 minutes ago, AndiCapp said:

Has he not been announced yet? 

Ask Lewy. He's bound to know..

[Diamonds85]

Would I be wrong in assuming that Ben Barker and Kyle Newman are certainties next year? How about a return for Ben Trigger since he's struggling for a team place, could double up with the National Trophy side? Lasse Fredriksen isn't back at Edinburgh but is hinting at having a Championship place lined up.

1. Nico Covatti

2. Kyle Newman/Lasse Fredriksen

3. Joe Thompson

4. Paco Castagna

5. Ben Barker

6. Alfie Bowtell

7. Ben Trigger

Strong reserves but not a very good top end, a typical Plymouth team.

Edit: I built the team to 38 for some reason, now built to 40 😄

Edited December 1 by Diamonds85

[Arthur54]

On 11/26/2024 at 10:49 PM, magnus said:

Ask Lewy. He's bound to know..

Doubt it, more concerned with what is going on at Poole 

[Marky_Mark]

I don’t think Trigger has an offer from any team currently 

[Ghosty]

3 hours ago, Marky_Mark said:

I don’t think Trigger has an offer from any team currently 

Plymouth should only use Ben it his average mean he "just fits" the number 7 slot.

That way it would be good for the Gladiatrors & team Trigger.

[Chef1]

2 hours ago, Ghosty said:

Plymouth should only use Ben it his average mean he "just fits" the number 7 slot.

That way it would be good for the Gladiatrors & Ben.

Hopefully find a new number 1?? 
 

Edited December 1 by Chef1
Spelt wrong

[torpointfanatic22]

16 hours ago, Diamonds85 said:

Would I be wrong in assuming that Ben Barker and Kyle Newman are certainties next year? How about a return for Ben Trigger since he's struggling for a team place, could double up with the National Trophy side? Lasse Fredriksen isn't back at Edinburgh but is hinting at having a Championship place lined up.

1. Nico Covatti

2. Kyle Newman/Lasse Fredriksen

3. Joe Thompson

4. Paco Castagna

5. Ben Barker

6. Alfie Bowtell

7. Ben Trigger

Strong reserves but not a very good top end, a typical Plymouth team.

Edit: I built the team to 38 for some reason, now built to 40 😄

I think that team would be worse than last seasons! Covatti isn't a number 1 and Barker is not a number 5.

[szkocjasid]

16 hours ago, Diamonds85 said:

1. Nico Covatti

2. Kyle Newman/Lasse Fredriksen

3. Joe Thompson

4. Paco Castagna

5. Ben Barker

6. Alfie Bowtell

7. Ben Trigger

 Edit: I built the team to 38 for some reason, now built to 40😄

 

46 minutes ago, torpointfanatic22 said:

I think that team would be worse than last seasons! Covatti isn't a number 1 and Barker is not a number 5.

It'll be very hard to build a stronger team than last season, most teams have to weaken due to the points limit, even Plymouth finishes above 40. Dan T will be impossible to replace imo, but if he wanted to go, what can Plymouth do?

Covatti & Barker aren't a good 1&5, but that's what they ran with last year. Possibly should've given Dan a run at 5 last year, see if Barker can find form as a "second string"? If that was the team for next year, so the same with Covatti (mind you, I expect him to remain with Edinburgh)?

[Doners123]

Current team id have something looking like is this. 
 

its a shame as Nico and D Thompson would have fit. 
 

really is a limited number of heat leaders avalible. With this in mind does anyone know the following …..

 

1) what’s the conversion rate in from prem to champ ?

 

2) if someone for example has a 2022 champ average but has a 2024 prem average which takes the lead to build from ? 
 

1- 

2- Gilkes - 5.07

3- B Barker 5.83

4- J Thompson 5.62

5- 

6- Bowtell - 5.07

7- Trigger - 3.00

 

Total remaining - 15.41 

[MB723]

10 minutes ago, Doners123 said:

1) what’s the conversion rate in from prem to champ ?

2) if someone for example has a 2022 champ average but has a 2024 prem average which takes the lead to build from ? 

1. 1.5 times Prem average

2. I believe the Prem average would be used but after enough matches (4?) the previous champ scores would be used to calculate when the averages update (someone can correct me if I'm wrong)

[szkocjasid]

3 hours ago, Doners123 said:

1) what’s the conversion rate in from prem to champ ?

2) if someone for example has a 2022 champ average but has a 2024 prem average which takes the lead to build from ? 

 

2 hours ago, MB723 said:

1. 1.5 times Prem average

2. I believe the Prem average would be used but after enough matches (4?) the previous champ scores would be used to calculate when the averages update (someone can correct me if I'm wrong)

1) The conversation rate is as above Prem x 1.5

2) The most recent average is used, so the 2024 Prem average is converted. As soon as a rider rides one match they revert to their Championship rolling ave.

Last year rolling averages were from 2022-2024, if the 3 year rule continues, then next year it'll be 2023-2025 matches that count.

If this is the case, the 2022 Champ matches will be ignored & the rider would get a new average after 8 matches.