Plymouth 2025

[szkocjasid]

4 hours ago, Jonnybegood said:

Oh yes he can , limit is lowered to 3.00

I've never seen that anywhere, I really hope it's not true. Does nothing to help British riders get team places.

If a foreigner can't reach a 4.00 average, should they really be taking the places of Brits at reserve?

Look at Poland, they look after their own & dominate world speedway (except the SON).

[szkocjasid]

3 hours ago, DJC said:

His green sheet is 4 and they only have 3.97 to play with?

Just checked and on the declarations page he's classed as a 4 but on the stats section says his green sheet is 3.88.

Who knows what he would actually come in on, presumably they could be trying to argue for the latter to fit him in. 

 

I wouldn't go by to the stats section, as it says "these are not official averages" for example it has Hodder on 1.52, but he rides on the minimum 2.00. Ivacic should be 4.00 unless the rules have changed.

If the rules have changed & foreigners can drop below 4, then I think he's the best option suggested yet.

[Neila]

2 hours ago, lewy said:

I don't think she averaged more than trigger,I don't think you will see her again in British speedway. 

Probably correct,  would/did struggle round your laal track every week

[lewy]

23 minutes ago, Neila said:

Probably correct,  would/did struggle round your laal track every week

She struggled at most tracks really, needs to learn how to gate.

[foreverblue]

I know I shouldn't mention football but a massive well done to Plymouth Argyle beating Liverpool, Man City next!

[gmuncie]

12 hours ago, szkocjasid said:

I wouldn't go by to the stats section, as it says "these are not official averages" for example it has Hodder on 1.52, but he rides on the minimum 2.00. Ivacic should be 4.00 unless the rules have changed.

If the rules have changed & foreigners can drop below 4, then I think he's the best option suggested yet.

Not unusually there’s nothing concrete in the SCB regs for the exact scenario but this is mentioned as part of another blurb 

‘Any rider not eligible for the British Development Leagues, with an

established average, cannot drop below 3.00 in the Premiership or

Championship Leagues at any time during the season.’

However I can’t find any mention of if this is being retroactively applied to the end of last season averages 

 

[foreverblue]

13 hours ago, szkocjasid said:

I've never seen that anywhere, I really hope it's not true. Does nothing to help British riders get team places.

If a foreigner can't reach a 4.00 average, should they really be taking the places of Brits at reserve?

Look at Poland, they look after their own & dominate world speedway (except the SON).

I have not seen that anywhere either so it is his head unless proven otherwise, do not see any reason why they would drop it.

[DJC]

15 hours ago, szkocjasid said:

I wouldn't go by to the stats section, as it says "these are not official averages" for example it has Hodder on 1.52, but he rides on the minimum 2.00. Ivacic should be 4.00 unless the rules have changed.

If the rules have changed & foreigners can drop below 4, then I think he's the best option suggested yet.

I have seen that on there, but who knows what they would actually use these days. 

@gmuncie suggested there isn't a specific call out for it and, all in the interest's of the sport and all that. 

It would make sense if they are trying to use up their points that they'd be trying to argue an average. Otherwise surely Trigger would have been in a long time ago.

[Gazc]

22 hours ago, lewy said:

Could be the one,I know the Plymouth promotion have been in contact with ivacic last season but obviously we couldnt compete with the likes of Glasgows financial clout.

I wish you had competed he was Sh!te.

[Diamonds85]

13 minutes ago, Gazc said:

I wish you had competed he was Sh!te.

Yet he's brilliant on the continent. I've never understood why some riders come to this country and struggle so much, is it really all down to the tracks or something else? Surely we have similar size and shape tracks as Sweden and Denmark do we not?

[MB723]

3 minutes ago, Diamonds85 said:

Yet he's brilliant on the continent. I've never understood why some riders come to this country and struggle so much, is it really all down to the tracks or something else? Surely we have similar size and shape tracks as Sweden and Denmark do we not?

The reason I always see mentioned is track material, not sure if that's a main factor or not though

[Diamonds85]

10 minutes ago, MB723 said:

The reason I always see mentioned is track material, not sure if that's a main factor or not though

What's the difference? Genuinely curious. Are the tracks in this country heavier than say Denmark and Sweden. I've watched a lot of speedway in Poland and the material does seem quite fine is probably the best way to describe it. But I'd have thought Denmark and Sweden had similarly heavy tracks compared to us?

[Pinny]

9 hours ago, Diamonds85 said:

What's the difference? Genuinely curious. Are the tracks in this country heavier than say Denmark and Sweden. I've watched a lot of speedway in Poland and the material does seem quite fine is probably the best way to describe it. But I'd have thought Denmark and Sweden had similarly heavy tracks compared to us?

Because in reality its the same as British riders going abroad and in the main struggling. Okay, you have your Bewleys, Lamberts and Woffys who succeed but how many others hold down regular spots in the top leagues over seas?

If you watch racing from Swedish and Danish tracks, you will realize they aren't actually that similar to UK tracks. And Polish tracks definitely aren't.

It's what makes it even more impressive when you see a foreign rider come to the UK and hit the ground running straight away.