Poole 2025

[STEVEHOLS54]

  On 10/25/2024 at 1:46 PM, DJC said:

There is a huge Newman shaped gap at no 2 with 5.37 left.

Mikkel B Andersen is some name to throw out. DIdn't he ride for Wroclaw this season?

Newman and Starke together in a Poole side, like its 2015

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Andersen rode 2 matches for Wroclaw in POL EXL -  7 rides 1.143 points per ride. Most of his rides were in the POL U24 league against most of the promising young Poles/Danes/Swedes/Czech riders. He was even higher than the likes of Rowe and all the other UK/Aussie young guys except Rew who is 5 years older.

Anyway highly unlikely that such a class talent will ride in Champ.

Edited October 25, 2024 by STEVEHOLS54
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[ASpeedwayfan]

  On 10/25/2024 at 1:41 PM, STEVEHOLS54 said:

Hagon's GSA with Brit discount is 4.73. If we keep Vinnie (which hope we do) I fear we may see a lot more of Hagon's second half season form as is as capable of being half a lap behind more than his occasional heat win.

I would love to see the Ford's convince young Mikkel Andersen over to UK. Was 16 in April - Won SGP3 in 2022 - was 3rd in 2023 and finished 4th in the 500 cc SGP2 series in 2024. Was 18th in his inaugural  POL U24 season considering he was only 16 in April from 9 meetings with a 2.02 per ride av from 44 rides. If we think Cairns has a future then this guys form indicates he is going the right way.

Wouldn't be easy prising him away from the Danish Wed meetings Lge, but would be a hell of a coup on a 5 GSA just 0.27 above Hagon and probably in a different League talent wise at only 16.

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I think with Hagon it was just his confidence that had his scoring come to a halt, at the start of the season he was sensational for Poole, beating heat leaders, and passing riders with ease and was spectacular on the outside line at Poole. His early season form was enough for me to hope he is included in the side next season. 

[ASpeedwayfan]

  On 10/25/2024 at 1:46 PM, DJC said:

There is a huge Newman shaped gap at no 2 with 5.37 left.

Mikkel B Andersen is some name to throw out. DIdn't he ride for Wroclaw this season?

Newman and Starke together in a Poole side, like its 2015

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Big fan of Kyle but there are better upcoming riders on an average less than his overly high average 

[Bitza]

  On 10/25/2024 at 4:16 PM, ASpeedwayfan said:

I think with Hagon it was just his confidence that had his scoring come to a halt, at the start of the season he was sensational for Poole, beating heat leaders, and passing riders with ease and was spectacular on the outside line at Poole. His early season form was enough for me to hope he is included in the side next season. 

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Sam's fall in form was quite pronounced and has continued over a fair period now. A winter in Aus may restore matters, whatever the issue is I think it's in his head and I'm sure he would disagree which is a problem. On balance I feel that he's a gamble. 

[SCS]

  On 10/25/2024 at 4:42 PM, Bitza said:

Sam's fall in form was quite pronounced and has continued over a fair period now. A winter in Aus may restore matters, whatever the issue is I think it's in his head and I'm sure he would disagree which is a problem. On balance I feel that he's a gamble. 

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Sam is just a young lad. Im sure he will bounce back.

 

[j2ohh]

  On 10/25/2024 at 12:05 PM, Steve Shovlar said:

Why would you choose Starke over Foord?

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its cheaper on the air fence panels .

[LisaColette]

  On 10/25/2024 at 7:46 PM, j2ohh said:

its cheaper on the air fence panels .

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Idk about that, Starke had crashed on the parade lap before!

[j2ohh]

  On 10/25/2024 at 7:51 PM, LisaColette said:

Idk about that, Starke had crashed on the parade lap before!

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so have many other riders , but very few into the air fence and destroying them . topinka was one that crashed on parade . hit another rider . 

[Pirates Of Poole]

  On 10/25/2024 at 4:42 PM, Bitza said:

Sam's fall in form was quite pronounced and has continued over a fair period now. A winter in Aus may restore matters, whatever the issue is I think it's in his head and I'm sure he would disagree which is a problem. On balance I feel that he's a gamble. 

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Certainly his head, worry is he never learnt from his mistakes. Heat 1 going to the boards when in a scoring position and went backwards! or in heats during a meeting, on a slick track go to the boards and go backwards. I'm no speedway rider but surely watching other riders and lines between heats would help! I certainly wouldn't want to see him at Poole in 2025, for me he become frustrating to watch the last 3 months, as continued doing the same mistakes meeting after meeting. 

 

Edited October 26, 2024 by Pirates Of Poole

[j2ohh]

  On 10/26/2024 at 10:42 AM, Pirates Of Poole said:

Certainly his head, worry is he never learnt from his mistakes. Heat 1 going to the boards when in a scoring position and went backwards! or in heats during a meeting, on a slick track go to the boards and go backwards. I'm no speedway rider but surely watching other riders and lines between heats would help! I certainly wouldn't want to see him at Poole in 2025, for me he become frustrating to watch the last 3 months, as continued doing the same mistakes meeting after meeting. 

 

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So it looks like Sam and Vinnie heading up north , as they say . Poole could be doing the wrong thing letting them both go .

[Arthur54]

  On 10/26/2024 at 10:59 AM, j2ohh said:

So it looks like Sam and Vinnie heading up north , as they say . Poole could be doing the wrong thing letting them both go .

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Who says there letting them both go 

[lbw]

  On 10/26/2024 at 10:59 AM, j2ohh said:

So it looks like Sam and Vinnie heading up north , as they say . Poole could be doing the wrong thing letting them both go .

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Even if they both go it doesn't necessarily mean that Poole are letting them go. They may just want to go for their own personal reasons.

[lewy]

  On 10/26/2024 at 12:54 PM, lbw said:

Even if they both go it doesn't necessarily mean that Poole are letting them go. They may just want to go for their own personal reasons.

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Hagon and  Vinnie both want to stay,but as Poole haven't got their own way with team building limit not being 38 again but 40 they are both surplus to requirements, probably bring in a couple of foreigners on a 5pt average. 

[Bitza]

  On 10/26/2024 at 2:40 PM, lewy said:

Hagon and  Vinnie both want to stay,but as Poole haven't got their own way with team building limit not being 38 again but 40 they are both surplus to requirements, probably bring in a couple of foreigners on a 5pt average. 

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Has the team limit been set? If so what is it? If not when will it be set? 

[lewy]

  On 10/26/2024 at 4:47 PM, Bitza said:

Has the team limit been set? If so what is it? If not when will it be set? 

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I think the limit has been  agreed, just needs to be ratified at agm.

[Catalan]

  On 10/26/2024 at 5:01 PM, lewy said:

I think the limit has been  agreed, just needs to be ratified at agm.

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Majority want a certain figure.

Mind that has changed before after it had been agreed.

[4BenMoran]

Cairns nailed on for Poole and RS spot at Belle Vue when he turns 16 in June and been told that by one promoter and a few riders so not like it’s uncommon news now, riders are well aware that their jobs are never save aka ‘numbers game’ but the added complexity of having a line in the sand when the change is going to happen might mean those expected to leave the clubs as the sacrifice lamb might have out performed someone who was supposedly not under threat, suppose we’ll all see at the end of June who is making way for Master Cairns 

[j2ohh]

June 30th

[Pirates Of Poole]

  On 10/26/2024 at 10:59 AM, j2ohh said:

So it looks like Sam and Vinnie heading up north , as they say . Poole could be doing the wrong thing letting them both go .

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Where is this confirmed? 

[LisaColette]

  On 10/27/2024 at 10:26 AM, Pirates Of Poole said:

Where is this confirmed? 

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In his head?