Poole 2025

[szkocjasid]

42 minutes ago, gmuncie said:

I would say the opposite really 

Personally I think Poole should be hammered for this, why even accept the invitation (or if never formally done so say you would) allowing press releases and fixture planning etc to be carried out then pull out, it is a nonsense!

The viability of accepting the meetings should have been looked into prior to doing so rather than months later once everything else was in place as you now have another club and fans in Sheffield impacted also.

I’ve never understood the Poole bashing before as I’ve thought of them as the gold standard, a tidy and full stadium every week and levels of success that would be the envy of most clubs in any sport let alone speedway but I can now see the self interest and quite frankly f you attitude to everyone else in the sport others talk about.

It was always announced as provisional when they listed the KOC quarter finals. Even when the fixtures were posted Sheffield vs Poole was still listed as provisional.

Can't blame Poole imo. Perhaps the BSPL should have given them a month to declare either way, so it would have been sorted sooner, but if they let Poole take their time, can you really blame Poole?

I'm disappointed I'm Poole's lack of ambition, I know it'll cost more, but I honestly expected a massive crowd for the Premiership fixtures. But at the same time, it's their business & if they want to look after number one, that's their choice.

[foreverblue]

1 minute ago, szkocjasid said:

It was always announced as provisional when they listed the KOC quarter finals. Even when the fixtures were posted Sheffield vs Poole was still listed as provisional.

Can't blame Poole imo. Perhaps the BSPL should have given them a month to declare either way, so it would have been sorted sooner, but if they let Poole take their time, can you really blame Poole?

I'm disappointed I'm Poole's lack of ambition, I know it'll cost more, but I honestly expected a massive crowd for the Premiership fixtures. But at the same time, it's their business & if they want to look after number one, that's their choice.

As I said in an earlier post when it was said that riders should be unattached, I thought this would be very expensive and difficult also some had criticized them for getting Sheffield as their first k o cup meeting. As you have alluded to Poole did not say at any stage they had accepted the invitation and in my opinion the right decision reached. You could have a one off meeting between teams from different leagues but not in a cup competition.

[SteveLyric2]

32 minutes ago, szkocjasid said:

It was always announced as provisional when they listed the KOC quarter finals. Even when the fixtures were posted Sheffield vs Poole was still listed as provisional.

Can't blame Poole imo. Perhaps the BSPL should have given them a month to declare either way, so it would have been sorted sooner, but if they let Poole take their time, can you really blame Poole?

I'm disappointed I'm Poole's lack of ambition, I know it'll cost more, but I honestly expected a massive crowd for the Premiership fixtures. But at the same time, it's their business & if they want to look after number one, that's their choice.

Those people saying it would have been a big crowd are assuming normal admission prices. Wrong!!!

Imo adult tickets would have to be around £25-£30 to cover costs. And then what effect might that have on normal attendances when money is tight?

[daz9100]

43 minutes ago, szkocjasid said:

I'm disappointed I'm Poole's lack of ambition, I know it'll cost more, but I honestly expected a massive crowd for the Premiership fixtures. But at the same time, it's their business & if they want to look after number one, that's their choice.

To be fair their ambition was huge. They wanted to bring in some big names to enable to compete but I guess that either they were too expensive or they didn’t want to do it or Poland wouldn’t let them. Poole didn’t want to use guest riders already riding for premiership clubs.

[foreverblue]

1 minute ago, SteveLyric2 said:

Those people saying it would have been a big crowd are assuming normal admission prices. Wrong!!!

Imo adult tickets would have to be around £25-£30 to cover costs. And then what effect might that have on normal attendances when money is tight?

I think most would accept an increase but not to those levels.

So a business decision has been reached and those that criticized Poole for contemplating entering a Premiership knock out competition can stop although they wont because we will now get criticized for not accepting.

[daz9100]

Agreed. Dammed if you do, dammed if you don’t. 

[scaramanga]

3 hours ago, Arthur54 said:

That should shut a few up 

Or open up a whole new topic as to reasons why 

[scaramanga]

3 hours ago, FromBendThree said:

First speedway shambles of 2025 with season still weeks away. 

Why is it a shambles 

Poole were asked and declined  

And I'm no Poole fan 

[STEVEHOLS54]

Now the Champ fixtures are out.

How many Lge matches before young Cairns gets a GSA ??

I notice Poole ride 7 Lge matches before he rides his first match against Glasgow at home on 2nd July. Meaning in effect 9 Lge fixtures left prior to any play offs if they qualify.

Can anyone confirm what the qualifying criteria is as get the feeling they have timed it so he keeps his 2 point GSA also for 2026. I know the play offs do not count for GSA's. Similar the BSN qualifiers that counted will also be completed before July.

[SaddlebowRoad]

21 minutes ago, scaramanga said:

Why is it a shambles 

Poole were asked and declined  

And I'm no Poole fan 

it shouldnt have been announced with a fanfare if it wasnt watertight

the correct outcome has been reached as they shouldnt be in it but it makes the sport look amateur hour yet again 

[foreverblue]

5 minutes ago, SaddlebowRoad said:

it shouldnt have been announced with a fanfare if it wasnt watertight

the correct outcome has been reached as they shouldnt be in it but it makes the sport look amateur hour yet again 

Poole did not announce it,  you are correct it should not even be talked about if there was a chance it would not happen. This sport just keeps on giving doesnt it!!!

[Marksman]

10 minutes ago, SaddlebowRoad said:

it shouldnt have been announced with a fanfare if it wasnt watertight

the correct outcome has been reached as they shouldnt be in it but it makes the sport look amateur hour yet again 

Exactly, just like when it was announced that Workington would be running an NDT side, was which never ever agreed.

BSPL office should never have announced both of these to make both Poole and Workington look bad.

[SaddlebowRoad]

13 minutes ago, foreverblue said:

Poole did not announce it,  you are correct it should not even be talked about if there was a chance it would not happen. This sport just keeps on giving doesnt it!!!

quite 

[IainB]

Taken from the BSPL press release "However, an exciting addition to the Premiership KO Cup is the inclusion of Championship winners Poole along with all seven regular top-flight clubs." No mention of an "invitation" (although I am aware that the Poole press release did say "invitation")

It's been quite the close season for a U-Turn: Cardiff, Boughen, Schlein and now this. 

Edited 9 hours ago by IainB

[PotteringAround]

41 minutes ago, IainB said:

Taken from the BSPL press release "However, an exciting addition to the Premiership KO Cup is the inclusion of Championship winners Poole along with all seven regular top-flight clubs." No mention of an "invitation" (although I am aware that the Poole press release did say "invitation")

But the press release DOES clearly say Poole were invited and they accepted.  So to then back out 2 months later is poor form from Poole.

 

 

“It’s good to have all the teams in the KO Cup, including Oxford this time, and we felt it would be great to have eight clubs competing with no byes, so Poole were invited in as Championship champions, and they accepted.

“They will be given a concession to build to Premiership level whilst keeping the majority of their team, and should there be any rider clash, the Premiership team would take priority.”

[IainB]

1 hour ago, PotteringAround said:

But the press release DOES clearly say Poole were invited and they accepted.  So to then back out 2 months later is poor form from Poole.

 

 

“It’s good to have all the teams in the KO Cup, including Oxford this time, and we felt it would be great to have eight clubs competing with no byes, so Poole were invited in as Championship champions, and they accepted.

“They will be given a concession to build to Premiership level whilst keeping the majority of their team, and should there be any rider clash, the Premiership team would take priority.”

I missed that 2nd release... whichever way you look at it, it's a bit of a balls up, hope nobody had hotels booked etc.

I was watching a Darts documentary the other night and back in the day of the BDO it reminded me so much of the Speedway setup, the guy running the operation seemed to be working out of a shop in the backstreets of nowheresville, reminded me of a certain somebody running Speedway from a Caravan in the back end of Lincolnshire!

[SteveLyric2]

2 hours ago, foreverblue said:

Poole did not announce it,  you are correct it should not even be talked about if there was a chance it would not happen. This sport just keeps on giving doesnt it!!!

Thank you Mr Morris!!!

[Trackrat]

Struggling to see an angle to cheat so pulled out, classic Paul.

[Jonnybegood]

25 minutes ago, Trackrat said:

Struggling to see an angle to cheat so pulled out, classic Paul.

Do you mean the Poole Pathetic ?? Asking for a friend

[Pirates Of Poole]

If the Fords feel it wouldn't be a financial gain then we have to respect that, if it's right or wrong.

Some Poole fans want us in the Premiership some want Championship and that is the way it is.

I won't hide the fact I feel we should be back at the top table, where we spent 19 years but that's my opinion.

The club lost money in 2019 for the first time in that period, down to a race night change, a main sponsor that never paid (maybe more checks should have been done on the business and I'm sure that would happen now) and the fact for the first time we could not attract top riders to the UK to ride for Poole, we ended up with a very young Jack Holder and Brady Kurtz at 1 & 5 which was too much pressure on young shoulders, against a team like Swindon who had Doyle, Batch, Jensen, Musielak.

That would of had an effect on the gates as people support winning teams and that applies in every sport sadly, your winning everyone wants to get involved! I know Matt at the time was trying to get a top GP rider in but they wouldn't come for the money offered and that may of got the fringe supporters to make the effort to go and watch the side then.

I would say when Matt first took the club on in 1999, it was all about getting the club back to winning and doing all he could to do that as well as making money like every business should ! the last 5 years it's more making sure we/they make money and a decent profit based on riding in a lower league, as he isn't willing to put his own money into the club to rescue it if it got into trouble. Personally if it was me I would look back at the past 24 years and the life style the club has given him and maybe look at not willing to help if required. 

I know the club was up for sale 5 years ago, no one come forward hence why Danny got more involved, reasons why? valuation of the club maybe?

But if some people want Premiership then I feel that won't be with the Fords in charge now, it would need to come from a new person getting involved and the club being valued at a 'realistic' value to take it on to make that happen.

End of the day it's Matt Fords business, he can do what he see's fit to make money and run it how he wants. Supporters and potential sponsors also have that choice to invest or watch the team weekly based on what's being put in front of them or they choose not to invest or go on a regular basis. 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 6 hours ago by Pirates Of Poole