foreverblue Posted Sunday at 11:01 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 11:01 AM 36 minutes ago, The Cheese said: A football fan would probably see similarities with the EFL Trophy where Premier League U21 sides are added to make up the numbers. If we go by last year instead, try explaining to a new fan that one team have decided not to bother entering and the two worst teams in the league have been given a bye to the semi-finals. Personally do not think the EFL trophy is comparable as it is open to all Premier League and Championship u21 teams to play against League one and league two teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topsoil Posted Sunday at 11:02 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 11:02 AM 3 hours ago, mikebv said: It's all contrived and made up over here though isn't it? Another competition following the same path won't make any difference... It will deter hardly one Poole fan from attending I would think, as we all know how it all works.. Surely no one still takes UK Speedway too seriously? The crowd at Sheffield might by a bit impacted given the competition may have a low interest for some top league fans, but the turn out at Poole should be decent... Nobody will ever take British speedway seriously until they adopt the Lucky Loser rule like Poland and Sweden. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitza Posted Sunday at 10:52 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 10:52 PM On 1/4/2025 at 6:13 PM, SteveLyric2 said: Not sure any 'new fan' would need any negative explanation from any existing fan? 7 Prem teams plus the Championship Champions - They would surely just be happy and content with 4 cup quarterfinals. As for Poole not wanting Premiership, they've been there, lost money, can't race on their traditional Weds race night and still get healthy Championship attendances with 30% less cost! It's a no brainer a d has been well documented. From my point of view, Poole's involvement means another opportunity to watch speedway, which is great. All this fuss about a championship club being in a Premiership competition, is really little more than hot air because the standards are so similar, complainers are kidding themselves of the great divide, I think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poole keith Posted 22 hours ago Report Share Posted 22 hours ago theyre not so similar though bitza if the regular poole team raced sheffield , poole would be annihilated ,hence the need to bring in two top riders in order to be competitive.If it did go ahead with usual teams sheffield wouldnt be interested.Tho a decent enough crowd would turn up at poole to watch tai and the holders im sure most sheffield fans wouldnt bother to watch a poole champioship team especially if sheffield had easily won the away leg 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitza Posted 19 hours ago Report Share Posted 19 hours ago 2 hours ago, poole keith said: theyre not so similar though bitza if the regular poole team raced sheffield , poole would be annihilated ,hence the need to bring in two top riders in order to be competitive.If it did go ahead with usual teams sheffield wouldnt be interested.Tho a decent enough crowd would turn up at poole to watch tai and the holders im sure most sheffield fans wouldnt bother to watch a poole champioship team especially if sheffield had easily won the away leg All true, but surely the difference is basically that in a Premiership team the top and bottom riders are better, but the filling is the same. So in simple terms take a top four Championship team add a couple top riders to replace the replacement riders, and you have a Premiership type team. Bosh job done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted 18 hours ago Report Share Posted 18 hours ago 46 minutes ago, Bitza said: All true, but surely the difference is basically that in a Premiership team the top and bottom riders are better, but the filling is the same. So in simple terms take a top four Championship team add a couple top riders to replace the replacement riders, and you have a Premiership type team. Bosh job done. I would say in most teams, Championship heat leaders are middle order Premiership riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted 18 hours ago Report Share Posted 18 hours ago So which riders are Poole going to leave out ??? for replacements to guest ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaddlebowRoad Posted 18 hours ago Report Share Posted 18 hours ago 36 minutes ago, AceBelle said: So which riders are Poole going to leave out ??? for replacements to guest ?? youd assume the two reserves replaced by two big guns 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poole keith Posted 17 hours ago Report Share Posted 17 hours ago 1 hour ago, Bitza said: All true, but surely the difference is basically that in a Premiership team the top and bottom riders are better, but the filling is the same. So in simple terms take a top four Championship team add a couple top riders to replace the replacement riders, and you have a Premiership type team. Bosh job done. Well that's exactly what they're having to do bitza but when you do that it's no longer a championship team is it,but back to your initial point I maintain ther is a massive and possibly widening gap between the two leagues 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted 17 hours ago Report Share Posted 17 hours ago Why not have Poole use their CL team and all the Sheffield riders start from a 15m handicap both home and away. IMO it would even things up a bit. Even better if a temporary set of tapes could be rigged up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS50 Posted 17 hours ago Report Share Posted 17 hours ago I believe Anders Rowe will be left out, as Sheffield get priority. So just leave out the temporary number 7, and Rowe, and get two big hitters. Team, 1 Premier guest 2 Cook, 3 Lawson 4 Kerr, 5 Premier guest 6 Thomsen 7 Starke 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted 16 hours ago Report Share Posted 16 hours ago Where has it been stated that only 2 riders are to be replaced? I must have missed it!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted 16 hours ago Report Share Posted 16 hours ago 1 hour ago, SaddlebowRoad said: youd assume the two reserves replaced by two big guns really ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaddlebowRoad Posted 16 hours ago Report Share Posted 16 hours ago 45 minutes ago, SteveLyric2 said: Where has it been stated that only 2 riders are to be replaced? I must have missed it!? it hasnt people are speculating as part of the discussion do keep up and stop patrolling the thread like a security guard 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted 14 hours ago Report Share Posted 14 hours ago The biggest joke is fiddling the draw so that the Holders can go back to Poole for one night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted 14 hours ago Report Share Posted 14 hours ago 22 minutes ago, proud panther said: The biggest joke is fiddling the draw so that the Holders can go back to Poole for one night. And? Will mean a good crowd which is what all promoters strive for. Only other Prem team to get a big crowd at Poole would be Ipswich imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted 14 hours ago Report Share Posted 14 hours ago 1 minute ago, LisaColette said: And? Will mean a good crowd which is what all promoters strive for. Only other Prem team to get a big crowd at Poole would be Ipswich imo. I know why they did it, but it's supposed to be a professional sport, not it's a knockout !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago (edited) 2 hours ago, SaddlebowRoad said: it hasnt people are speculating as part of the discussion do keep up and stop patrolling the thread like a security guard Ironic😄 So a Poole fan on a Poole thread can't ask a question as part of the discussion? What's your excuse? Edited 13 hours ago by SteveLyric2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poole keith Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, LisaColette said: And? Will mean a good crowd which is what all promoters strive for. Only other Prem team to get a big crowd at Poole would be Ipswich imo. Doesn't say much about poole supporters lisa if there's only two Premiership teams they'd turn up to watch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago (edited) 17 minutes ago, poole keith said: Doesn't say much about poole supporters lisa if there's only two Premiership teams they'd turn up to watch Depends on what night?and which other Poole riders would be riding for the Prem teams?😉 Edited 12 hours ago by SteveLyric2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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