j2ohh Posted December 12 Report Share Posted December 12 49 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: I don't think a "letter of intent" is a legally binding agreement. you wold think not from a 15 yr old schoolboy ! 44 minutes ago, eric i said: Something definitely went wrong with Poole team building, not like Poole to come in 0.96 under the points limit. Probably won't matter if Cairns lives up to expectation/hype. so if master Cairns does not live up to the promise , ur screwed . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitza Posted December 12 Report Share Posted December 12 5 hours ago, Diamonds85 said: Starke isn't the rider he was a few years back... but he should do a solid job at reserve at Poole all season. He's not going to catch Tobias in terms of average. I'm guessing Starke was option B and they were trying to get a certain Aussie in on a 4.00 but he would have been a 5.00, hence the 'numbers game' excuse with Vinnie who as it turns out would have fit. Don't think he was plan B, cos apparently he was signed very early on. He was more likely a remnant of the 38 total team. The key to his success will be getting his machinery sorted & maintained, not beyond the wit of man. Maybe finances have been an issue, or possibly misplaced faith in his spanner person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted December 12 Author Report Share Posted December 12 1 hour ago, lewy said: No they pay peanuts on time apparently And win prizes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJA Posted December 12 Report Share Posted December 12 39 minutes ago, j2ohh said: you wold think not from a 15 yr old schoolboy ! so if master Cairns does not live up to the promise , ur screwed . It is providing the 15 year old signs & you get the parent/guardian to act as whitness. They key for any LoI being enforced is a clear action of if I do this you will do this in return. I have experience at academy & first team level of drafting such documents for a couple of Premiership football clubs.which have had to be legally enforced. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted December 12 Report Share Posted December 12 28 minutes ago, Bitza said: Don't think he was plan B, cos apparently he was signed very early on. He was more likely a remnant of the 38 total team. The key to his success will be getting his machinery sorted & maintained, not beyond the wit of man. Maybe finances have been an issue, or possibly misplaced faith in his spanner person. Starke's mechanic is his dad always has been from day one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitza Posted December 12 Report Share Posted December 12 10 minutes ago, lewy said: Starke's mechanic is his dad always has been from day one. Not surprised in fact I kinda suspected it, maybe it's time to go professional? He isn't the first motor sport contestant finding themselves in that situation, fine while they come up through the ranks but generally there comes a time for an "awkward conversation". If that is actually what is holding him back let's hope he's had that chat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljriley90 Posted December 12 Report Share Posted December 12 10 hours ago, FAST GATER said: Starke is a mystery to me a few years ago his scoring just dropped off a cliff ,no big injury if I am not mistaken his form just fell away and has never recovered ! Equipment nowhere near good enough, see Adam Roynon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted December 12 Report Share Posted December 12 1 hour ago, j2ohh said: so if master Cairns does not live up to the promise , ur screwed . I would say not necessarily, they still have made some good signings. Should make the top 4, even without Cairns. But they would probably struggle to win the play-offs without him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTD26 Posted December 13 Report Share Posted December 13 16 hours ago, foreverblue said: So Cairns would rather go to Poole, doubt it was anything to do with money. Deluded if you think that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTD26 Posted December 13 Report Share Posted December 13 13 hours ago, Arthur54 said: And win prizes Until next season when you’ll win a grand total of 0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted December 13 Report Share Posted December 13 22 minutes ago, CTD26 said: Deluded if you think that Deluded if you think Poole are going to pay over the top for a rider when they moved down to save money! Maybe they offer more in terms of sponsorship. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 13 Report Share Posted December 13 32 minutes ago, CTD26 said: Deluded if you think that If you think riders only come to Poole because of the money you are the deluded one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeandTV Posted December 13 Report Share Posted December 13 You're all arguing over something you know nothing about. Has anybody seen Cairns' contract? I doubt, so it's impossible to say whether he's getting paid loads or hardly anything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster00 Posted December 13 Report Share Posted December 13 39 minutes ago, foreverblue said: If you think riders only come to Poole because of the money you are the deluded one. Why do people go to Poole then? In a sport where riders are basically self employed surely money will be a fairly important factor? Yes other things will inevitably go into a decision but I’m pretty sure it’ll a large part of the conversation for many of the riders. I’m pretty sure if any of us were to be offered a new job tomorrow then money would be a fairly important part of the discussion, why would it be so different for Championship level speedway riders? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 13 Report Share Posted December 13 43 minutes ago, CoffeeandTV said: You're all arguing over something you know nothing about. Has anybody seen Cairns' contract? I doubt, so it's impossible to say whether he's getting paid loads or hardly anything. You are correct but many have said before Poole attract riders because they pay the most but there are other factors that attract riders to Poole. I dont mind how much they pay but the books have to be balanced, it is run as a business. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulboy Posted December 13 Report Share Posted December 13 1 hour ago, foreverblue said: You are correct but many have said before Poole attract riders because they pay the most but there are other factors that attract riders to Poole. I dont mind how much they pay but the books have to be balanced, it is run as a business. I don't get why Poole fans are so defensive about suggestions they pay more than some other clubs. It makes perfect sense, they get very good crowds so are in the fortunate position of being able to pay a little bit more if the right man is available. Speedway riders are self-employed and have to maximise their earning potential, so it stands to reason they will sign for a well-run club who can pay a little bit more. I think anyone who suggests they pay well over the top is off the mark, as in anyone who says money isn't a deciding factor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted December 13 Author Report Share Posted December 13 2 hours ago, CTD26 said: Until next season when you’ll win a grand total of 0 We shall see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelinho Posted December 13 Report Share Posted December 13 1 hour ago, Hamster00 said: Why do people go to Poole then? In a sport where riders are basically self employed surely money will be a fairly important factor? Yes other things will inevitably go into a decision but I’m pretty sure it’ll a large part of the conversation for many of the riders. I’m pretty sure if any of us were to be offered a new job tomorrow then money would be a fairly important part of the discussion, why would it be so different for Championship level speedway riders? How much you get paid on paper is not as important as how much enters your bank account, and how quickly that happens. I reckon Poole are probably quite good at that bit. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 13 Report Share Posted December 13 45 minutes ago, paulboy said: I don't get why Poole fans are so defensive about suggestions they pay more than some other clubs. It makes perfect sense, they get very good crowds so are in the fortunate position of being able to pay a little bit more if the right man is available. Speedway riders are self-employed and have to maximise their earning potential, so it stands to reason they will sign for a well-run club who can pay a little bit more. I think anyone who suggests they pay well over the top is off the mark, as in anyone who says money isn't a deciding factor. I agree with most of that and yes they sign because it is well run and get paid on time also sponsorship is important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flagrag Posted December 13 Report Share Posted December 13 2 hours ago, foreverblue said: You are correct but many have said before Poole attract riders because they pay the most but there are other factors that attract riders to Poole. I dont mind how much they pay but the books have to be balanced, it is run as a business. One the main reasons why the Cairns chose Poole to start his career was race night and location . It is also helped that a local Poole sponsor will also be sponsoring Will in 2025 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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