scaramanga Posted December 9, 2024 Report Share Posted December 9, 2024 On 12/9/2024 at 7:52 AM, SaddlebowRoad said: if thats true then alarm bells are ringing (or should be) regarding our governing body Expand But we've all seen it before Teams can't ride o. A Friday because it will reduce guests for a certain club 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 9, 2024 Report Share Posted December 9, 2024 On 12/8/2024 at 11:29 PM, crescent girl said: That's rubbish. If the Poole reserve rides well enough to outscore (say) Tobias Thomsen -- by no means an impossible target -- he would be retained. Expand That's rubbish,any 2 pointer will never get anywhere near Thomson's average that is an impossible target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted December 9, 2024 Report Share Posted December 9, 2024 On 12/9/2024 at 7:27 AM, SteveLyric2 said: One of Darcy Ward's young riders then??!!😊 Expand If you say so, and I suspect you know...😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 9, 2024 Report Share Posted December 9, 2024 On 12/9/2024 at 6:02 AM, HGould said: West has been touting himself around all Promotions in the CL for 18 months. I don't think it's him but someone with compatively better form in Oz over the past few years My hunch is that Poole have collared an Aussie who has not ridden competitively in the UK before; who was very close to signing for another Team in the CL; and who Poole unlike the other Team involved have successfully argued a case for to be on a 4 point average and not a 5 point average based on pulling strings with the Management Committee, based on some form elsewhere in Europe. It's not a name I've seen mentioned anywhere so I'll keep stum on it for now but it'll all make sense when it happens! Expand Haha, not bringing out the old Poole get preferential treatment again!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirates Of Poole Posted December 9, 2024 Report Share Posted December 9, 2024 (edited) On 12/9/2024 at 8:42 AM, HGould said: If you say so, and I suspect you know...😉 Expand I'm sure all will become clear in the next week or so! Edited December 9, 2024 by Pirates Of Poole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted December 9, 2024 Report Share Posted December 9, 2024 On 12/9/2024 at 6:02 AM, HGould said: West has been touting himself around all Promotions in the CL for 18 months. I don't think it's him but someone with compatively better form in Oz over the past few years My hunch is that Poole have collared an Aussie who has not ridden competitively in the UK before; who was very close to signing for another Team in the CL; and who Poole unlike the other Team involved have successfully argued a case for to be on a 4 point average and not a 5 point average based on pulling strings with the Management Committee, based on some form elsewhere in Europe. It's not a name I've seen mentioned anywhere so I'll keep stum on it for now but it'll all make sense when it happens! Expand Best Australian riders without UK experience (or 2025 team): Fraser Bowes Mitchell Cluff Jack Morrison Harrison Ryan Patrick Hamilton Michael West Bowes, Cluff and West come in on 5. While the first two would be worth a punt on that average I agree with your analysis that West isn't 'worth' a 5 average. The other three come in on 4. Morrison is 27 (or thereabouts), Hamilton rode at the Isle of Wight and Iwade this year - I think he'd struggle to make 4. That leaves Harrison Ryan as the one I'd keep an eye on. Polish U24 2024 records: Rides points James Pearson 80 135 Fraser Bowes 73 105 Mitchell Cluff 72 111 Michael West 46 34 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted December 9, 2024 Report Share Posted December 9, 2024 On 12/9/2024 at 9:14 AM, arnieg said: Best Australian riders without UK experience (or 2025 team): Fraser Bowes Mitchell Cluff Jack Morrison Harrison Ryan Patrick Hamilton Michael West Bowes, Cluff and West come in on 5. While the first two would be worth a punt on that average I agree with your analysis that West isn't 'worth' a 5 average. The other three come in on 4. Morrison is 27 (or thereabouts), Hamilton rode at the Isle of Wight and Iwade this year - I think he'd struggle to make 4. That leaves Harrison Ryan as the one I'd keep an eye on. Polish U24 2024 records: Rides points James Pearson 80 135 Fraser Bowes 73 105 Mitchell Cluff 72 111 Michael West 46 34 Expand Fraser Bowes has signed for Workington. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted December 9, 2024 Report Share Posted December 9, 2024 On 12/9/2024 at 9:14 AM, arnieg said: Best Australian riders without UK experience (or 2025 team): Fraser Bowes Mitchell Cluff Jack Morrison Harrison Ryan Patrick Hamilton Michael West Bowes, Cluff and West come in on 5. While the first two would be worth a punt on that average I agree with your analysis that West isn't 'worth' a 5 average. The other three come in on 4. Morrison is 27 (or thereabouts), Hamilton rode at the Isle of Wight and Iwade this year - I think he'd struggle to make 4. That leaves Harrison Ryan as the one I'd keep an eye on. Polish U24 2024 records: Rides points James Pearson 80 135 Fraser Bowes 73 105 Mitchell Cluff 72 111 Michael West 46 34 Expand Well someone of that sort of ability indeed! But magic and a little bit of coercion that other Clubs don't posess gets them on a 4 point average to fit in their Poole team! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marksman Posted December 9, 2024 Report Share Posted December 9, 2024 On 12/9/2024 at 6:02 AM, HGould said: West has been touting himself around all Promotions in the CL for 18 months. I don't think it's him but someone with compatively better form in Oz over the past few years My hunch is that Poole have collared an Aussie who has not ridden competitively in the UK before; who was very close to signing for another Team in the CL; and who Poole unlike the other Team involved have successfully argued a case for to be on a 4 point average and not a 5 point average based on pulling strings with the Management Committee, based on some form elsewhere in Europe. It's not a name I've seen mentioned anywhere so I'll keep stum on it for now but it'll all make sense when it happens! Expand Matthew Gilmore perhaps, rode in the U21 World Championships in 2021, now SGP2. And also in Poland 3rd tier in 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted December 9, 2024 Report Share Posted December 9, 2024 If itstruetherepulling strings 1i hope other clubs appeal late on and they get weaker last option Or 2 other clubs use same argument to get reduction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted December 9, 2024 Report Share Posted December 9, 2024 (edited) On 12/9/2024 at 9:36 AM, scaramanga said: If itstruetherepulling strings 1i hope other clubs appeal late on and they get weaker last option Or 2 other clubs use same argument to get reduction Expand Let's see what actually happens first. HGould always goes on about us manipulating rules and nothing like that ever happens lol. Edited December 9, 2024 by LisaColette 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 9, 2024 Report Share Posted December 9, 2024 On 12/9/2024 at 9:45 AM, LisaColette said: Let's see what actually happens first. HGould always goes on about us manipulating rules and nothing like that ever happens lol. Expand Yes same as Ouch always harping on about Belle Vue getting the rough end of the stick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted December 9, 2024 Report Share Posted December 9, 2024 On 12/9/2024 at 6:02 AM, HGould said: West has been touting himself around all Promotions in the CL for 18 months. I don't think it's him but someone with compatively better form in Oz over the past few years My hunch is that Poole have collared an Aussie who has not ridden competitively in the UK before; who was very close to signing for another Team in the CL; and who Poole unlike the other Team involved have successfully argued a case for to be on a 4 point average and not a 5 point average based on pulling strings with the Management Committee, based on some form elsewhere in Europe. It's not a name I've seen mentioned anywhere so I'll keep stum on it for now but it'll all make sense when it happens! Expand There’s a reason clubs haven’t touched West, doesn’t come with a good behaviour sheet let’s put it that way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 9, 2024 Report Share Posted December 9, 2024 On 12/9/2024 at 9:17 AM, Diamonds85 said: Fraser Bowes has signed for Workington. Expand Why has Mitch Mcdiarmid come in on a 4,? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted December 9, 2024 Report Share Posted December 9, 2024 On 12/9/2024 at 8:42 AM, foreverblue said: That's rubbish,any 2 pointer will never get anywhere near Thomson's average that is an impossible target. Expand Why not Vinnie did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 9, 2024 Report Share Posted December 9, 2024 On 12/9/2024 at 10:25 AM, lewy said: Why not Vinnie did. Expand Vinnie is a one off there is no other 2 point rider that will get to a 4 point average by the end of June, Thomsen finished on 4.41 and his average will increase so absolutely no chance any current 2 pointer will get to that level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted December 9, 2024 Report Share Posted December 9, 2024 On 12/9/2024 at 10:24 AM, foreverblue said: Why has Mitch Mcdiarmid come in on a 4,? Expand Need to do a minimum of 18 heats in the under 24 league to be a 5.00. He only done 17. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted December 9, 2024 Report Share Posted December 9, 2024 On 12/9/2024 at 10:30 AM, foreverblue said: Vinnie is a one off there is no other 2 point rider that will get to a 4 point average by the end of June, Thomsen finished on 4.41 and his average will increase so absolutely no chance any current 2 pointer will get to that level. Expand That's only your opinion,not fact another example is sam hagon so stop talking rubbish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted December 9, 2024 Report Share Posted December 9, 2024 On 12/9/2024 at 10:34 AM, lewy said: That's only your opinion,not fact another example is sam hagon so stop talking rubbish. Expand Yes but Tobias won't be facing another season having lost his best friend and mechanic as well as becoming a dad for the 2nd time! With a new and respected mechanic, his end of season scores, which didn't affect his GSA, will continue upwards and out of reach of a reserve, imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted December 9, 2024 Report Share Posted December 9, 2024 On 12/9/2024 at 9:21 AM, HGould said: Well someone of that sort of ability indeed! But magic and a little bit of coercion that other Clubs don't posess gets them on a 4 point average to fit in their Poole team! Expand Just as well Danny Ford not on the BSPL Board anymore, so not sure where any 'coercion' could be excerted.....?! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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