scaramanga Posted December 9 Report Share Posted December 9 3 minutes ago, SaddlebowRoad said: if thats true then alarm bells are ringing (or should be) regarding our governing body But we've all seen it before Teams can't ride o. A Friday because it will reduce guests for a certain club 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 9 Report Share Posted December 9 9 hours ago, crescent girl said: That's rubbish. If the Poole reserve rides well enough to outscore (say) Tobias Thomsen -- by no means an impossible target -- he would be retained. That's rubbish,any 2 pointer will never get anywhere near Thomson's average that is an impossible target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted December 9 Report Share Posted December 9 1 hour ago, SteveLyric2 said: One of Darcy Ward's young riders then??!!😊 If you say so, and I suspect you know...😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 9 Report Share Posted December 9 2 hours ago, HGould said: West has been touting himself around all Promotions in the CL for 18 months. I don't think it's him but someone with compatively better form in Oz over the past few years My hunch is that Poole have collared an Aussie who has not ridden competitively in the UK before; who was very close to signing for another Team in the CL; and who Poole unlike the other Team involved have successfully argued a case for to be on a 4 point average and not a 5 point average based on pulling strings with the Management Committee, based on some form elsewhere in Europe. It's not a name I've seen mentioned anywhere so I'll keep stum on it for now but it'll all make sense when it happens! Haha, not bringing out the old Poole get preferential treatment again!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirates Of Poole Posted December 9 Report Share Posted December 9 (edited) 7 minutes ago, HGould said: If you say so, and I suspect you know...😉 I'm sure all will become clear in the next week or so! Edited December 9 by Pirates Of Poole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted December 9 Report Share Posted December 9 3 hours ago, HGould said: West has been touting himself around all Promotions in the CL for 18 months. I don't think it's him but someone with compatively better form in Oz over the past few years My hunch is that Poole have collared an Aussie who has not ridden competitively in the UK before; who was very close to signing for another Team in the CL; and who Poole unlike the other Team involved have successfully argued a case for to be on a 4 point average and not a 5 point average based on pulling strings with the Management Committee, based on some form elsewhere in Europe. It's not a name I've seen mentioned anywhere so I'll keep stum on it for now but it'll all make sense when it happens! Best Australian riders without UK experience (or 2025 team): Fraser Bowes Mitchell Cluff Jack Morrison Harrison Ryan Patrick Hamilton Michael West Bowes, Cluff and West come in on 5. While the first two would be worth a punt on that average I agree with your analysis that West isn't 'worth' a 5 average. The other three come in on 4. Morrison is 27 (or thereabouts), Hamilton rode at the Isle of Wight and Iwade this year - I think he'd struggle to make 4. That leaves Harrison Ryan as the one I'd keep an eye on. Polish U24 2024 records: Rides points James Pearson 80 135 Fraser Bowes 73 105 Mitchell Cluff 72 111 Michael West 46 34 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted December 9 Report Share Posted December 9 2 minutes ago, arnieg said: Best Australian riders without UK experience (or 2025 team): Fraser Bowes Mitchell Cluff Jack Morrison Harrison Ryan Patrick Hamilton Michael West Bowes, Cluff and West come in on 5. While the first two would be worth a punt on that average I agree with your analysis that West isn't 'worth' a 5 average. The other three come in on 4. Morrison is 27 (or thereabouts), Hamilton rode at the Isle of Wight and Iwade this year - I think he'd struggle to make 4. That leaves Harrison Ryan as the one I'd keep an eye on. Polish U24 2024 records: Rides points James Pearson 80 135 Fraser Bowes 73 105 Mitchell Cluff 72 111 Michael West 46 34 Fraser Bowes has signed for Workington. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted December 9 Report Share Posted December 9 6 minutes ago, arnieg said: Best Australian riders without UK experience (or 2025 team): Fraser Bowes Mitchell Cluff Jack Morrison Harrison Ryan Patrick Hamilton Michael West Bowes, Cluff and West come in on 5. While the first two would be worth a punt on that average I agree with your analysis that West isn't 'worth' a 5 average. The other three come in on 4. Morrison is 27 (or thereabouts), Hamilton rode at the Isle of Wight and Iwade this year - I think he'd struggle to make 4. That leaves Harrison Ryan as the one I'd keep an eye on. Polish U24 2024 records: Rides points James Pearson 80 135 Fraser Bowes 73 105 Mitchell Cluff 72 111 Michael West 46 34 Well someone of that sort of ability indeed! But magic and a little bit of coercion that other Clubs don't posess gets them on a 4 point average to fit in their Poole team! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marksman Posted December 9 Report Share Posted December 9 3 hours ago, HGould said: West has been touting himself around all Promotions in the CL for 18 months. I don't think it's him but someone with compatively better form in Oz over the past few years My hunch is that Poole have collared an Aussie who has not ridden competitively in the UK before; who was very close to signing for another Team in the CL; and who Poole unlike the other Team involved have successfully argued a case for to be on a 4 point average and not a 5 point average based on pulling strings with the Management Committee, based on some form elsewhere in Europe. It's not a name I've seen mentioned anywhere so I'll keep stum on it for now but it'll all make sense when it happens! Matthew Gilmore perhaps, rode in the U21 World Championships in 2021, now SGP2. And also in Poland 3rd tier in 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted December 9 Report Share Posted December 9 If itstruetherepulling strings 1i hope other clubs appeal late on and they get weaker last option Or 2 other clubs use same argument to get reduction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted December 9 Report Share Posted December 9 (edited) 10 minutes ago, scaramanga said: If itstruetherepulling strings 1i hope other clubs appeal late on and they get weaker last option Or 2 other clubs use same argument to get reduction Let's see what actually happens first. HGould always goes on about us manipulating rules and nothing like that ever happens lol. Edited December 9 by LisaColette 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 9 Report Share Posted December 9 14 minutes ago, LisaColette said: Let's see what actually happens first. HGould always goes on about us manipulating rules and nothing like that ever happens lol. Yes same as Ouch always harping on about Belle Vue getting the rough end of the stick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted December 9 Report Share Posted December 9 4 hours ago, HGould said: West has been touting himself around all Promotions in the CL for 18 months. I don't think it's him but someone with compatively better form in Oz over the past few years My hunch is that Poole have collared an Aussie who has not ridden competitively in the UK before; who was very close to signing for another Team in the CL; and who Poole unlike the other Team involved have successfully argued a case for to be on a 4 point average and not a 5 point average based on pulling strings with the Management Committee, based on some form elsewhere in Europe. It's not a name I've seen mentioned anywhere so I'll keep stum on it for now but it'll all make sense when it happens! There’s a reason clubs haven’t touched West, doesn’t come with a good behaviour sheet let’s put it that way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 9 Report Share Posted December 9 1 hour ago, Diamonds85 said: Fraser Bowes has signed for Workington. Why has Mitch Mcdiarmid come in on a 4,? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted December 9 Report Share Posted December 9 1 hour ago, foreverblue said: That's rubbish,any 2 pointer will never get anywhere near Thomson's average that is an impossible target. Why not Vinnie did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 9 Report Share Posted December 9 1 minute ago, lewy said: Why not Vinnie did. Vinnie is a one off there is no other 2 point rider that will get to a 4 point average by the end of June, Thomsen finished on 4.41 and his average will increase so absolutely no chance any current 2 pointer will get to that level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted December 9 Report Share Posted December 9 5 minutes ago, foreverblue said: Why has Mitch Mcdiarmid come in on a 4,? Need to do a minimum of 18 heats in the under 24 league to be a 5.00. He only done 17. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted December 9 Report Share Posted December 9 2 minutes ago, foreverblue said: Vinnie is a one off there is no other 2 point rider that will get to a 4 point average by the end of June, Thomsen finished on 4.41 and his average will increase so absolutely no chance any current 2 pointer will get to that level. That's only your opinion,not fact another example is sam hagon so stop talking rubbish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted December 9 Report Share Posted December 9 14 minutes ago, lewy said: That's only your opinion,not fact another example is sam hagon so stop talking rubbish. Yes but Tobias won't be facing another season having lost his best friend and mechanic as well as becoming a dad for the 2nd time! With a new and respected mechanic, his end of season scores, which didn't affect his GSA, will continue upwards and out of reach of a reserve, imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted December 9 Report Share Posted December 9 1 hour ago, HGould said: Well someone of that sort of ability indeed! But magic and a little bit of coercion that other Clubs don't posess gets them on a 4 point average to fit in their Poole team! Just as well Danny Ford not on the BSPL Board anymore, so not sure where any 'coercion' could be excerted.....?! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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