Poole 2025

[szkocjasid]

2 hours ago, MB723 said:

Cat	Rider Participates In	Premiership League Average	Championship League Average
1	Any rider who has been an FIM GP rider for 2 consecutive seasons within the last 5 seasons (excluding wild card riders and a reserve rider who has competed in 2 or less FIM GP rounds in any one season)	8.00	12.00  this rider would only be considered dependent on fixture clashes
2	Polish Ekstraliga with an average of 6.00 or above	7.50	11.25  this rider would only be considered dependent on fixture clashes
3	•    Polish Ekstraliga with an average of between 3.00 and 5.99  •    Polish League 1 with a published average of 6.00 or above	6.00	8.50  this rider would only be considered dependent on fixture clashes
4	•    Polish Ekstraliga with an average of 2.99 or below  •    Polish League 1 with a published average of 5.99 or below  •    Polish League 2 with a published average of 6.00 or above  • Swedish Elitserian League published average of 6.00 or above	4.50	6.00  this rider would only be considered dependent on fixture clashes
5	•    Polish League 2 with a published average of 5.99 or below •    Under 24 Polish League only  •    Swedish Elitserian League published average of 5.99 or below  •    Swedish Alsvensken League   •    Danish Super League	4.00	5.00  this rider would only be considered dependent on fixture clashes
6	Not participated in a professional league	3.50	4.00

Why does column 6 give riders a 3.50 average, when the lowest average for foreigners is 4.00?

It's  not changed to a minimum 3.50 has it?

[MB723]

9 minutes ago, szkocjasid said:

Why does column 6 give riders a 3.50 average, when the lowest average for foreigners is 4.00?

It's  not changed to a minimum 3.50 has it?

There is a paragraph on the next page that states: Any other rider (meaning non-british) with an established average, cannot drop below 4.00 in the Premiership or Championship leagues at any time during the season.

I'm going to assume that their average won't be able to drop until they are over 4.00 but who knows really.

[SteveLyric2]

6 hours ago, STEVEHOLS54 said:

While those of us interested in who may fill  the 4.32 left after the 6 riders we anticipate signing (excl the 2 pointer to fill Cairns slot until end June).

I have come across this interesting news on on POL site Sports Fakty, a  16 yer old young Aussie who last weekend won a Western Australia comp beating the likes of Killeen & Hook and on same site earlier articles about him winning other comps last couple of months.

Already signed for Falubaz on a 2 year deal and is a protege on Woffinden - Was trialed in 4 U24 matches last season.

As he only rode 4 meeting (scores were impressive)) could he sneak into the Champ on a normal Aussie 4 point GSA.

I thought (maybe) it was 6 meetings to qualify as a 5 pointer. I could be wrong.

For those interested site is below:

https://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/1151049/zuzel-falubaz-oglosil-kolejny-kontrakt-to-dwuletnia-umowa-z-zawodnikiem-u24

How do you get 4.32 for the final rider?

[ASpeedwayfan]

9 hours ago, SteveLyric2 said:

How do you get 4.32 for the final rider?

Assuming it’s Lawson, Tobias, Zach, Rowe, Kerr, Twopointer(Cairns) 

that’s leaves 4.32

[Bitza]

I read on the Glasgow thread that the Polish U24 league seems under threat due to financial issues, which could make the UK Championship a more attractive proposition. Are there any likely/possibilities from that league for Poole to lure in? 

[Dickie Head]

For what it’s worth, recent posts on Facebook in the past couple of days reveal that Ablitt and Trigger are yet to find Championship places in 2025.

[4BenMoran]

Was mentioned at the Sheffield STAARS meeting on Thursday that they would have preference over Anders Rowe when racing Poole in the KO Cup, obviously confirms his Championship team before it’s announced by them 🙈

 

[Mr Blobby]

1 hour ago, Bitza said:

I read on the Glasgow thread that the Polish U24 league seems under threat due to financial issues, which could make the UK Championship a more attractive proposition. Are there any likely/possibilities from that league for Poole to lure in? 

Think it will run this year but 2025 will be the last of it from what I’ve heard.

[foreverblue]

10 minutes ago, 4BenMoran said:

Was mentioned at the Sheffield STAARS meeting on Thursday that they would have preference over Anders Rowe when racing Poole in the KO Cup, obviously confirms his Championship team before it’s announced by them 🙈

 

Thats good news, I think Anders Rowe has alot of potential.

[SteveLyric2]

2 hours ago, ASpeedwayfan said:

Assuming it’s Lawson, Tobias, Zach, Rowe, Kerr, Twopointer(Cairns) 

that’s leaves 4.32

What about the rumoured Paul Starke?(3.36).

Edited November 23 by SteveLyric2

[SaddlebowRoad]

44 minutes ago, 4BenMoran said:

Was mentioned at the Sheffield STAARS meeting on Thursday that they would have preference over Anders Rowe when racing Poole in the KO Cup, obviously confirms his Championship team before it’s announced by them 🙈

lol

i think most people knew anyway 

[STEVEHOLS54]

19 minutes ago, SteveLyric2 said:

What about the rumoured Paul Starke?(3.36).

With 4.32 left if the six are as expected, would seem risky to leave nearly a whole point (0.96) unused.

Saw on Speedway GB today in Scunthorpe interview that Howarth left as wanted a track closer to home. Would that not narrow it to OXF/Poole/Plymouth. Only mention it as saw his name on Poole 2025 Forum mentioned a few times. However that would only take us 0.49 more if him instead of Kerr so 4.81 which still below 5 for one of these other Cont/Scand young riders.

just a thought but Mulford (rumored on the Forum to be going to Redcar) is 4.27 which fits.

Only logic of Starke for me would be 1) They feel need for more experience with a 2 pointer at reserve and likely to take more then normal 4 rides 2) Has proved at Poole he can and most likely will score more than 4 points a per meeting. Last season is evidence of that 3) Maybe the Fords are building to a tight budget. Especially with the uncertainty of whether  they will even be racing after 2025 with the stadium uncertainty.

Would still like to see the young Aussie Mcdiarmid as I see another Zischke in him if he came to UK. You have to be a good rider to see what he did in only 4 meetings in the POL U24 to see the potential. Still only 16 until next March.

[ASpeedwayfan]

25 minutes ago, STEVEHOLS54 said:

With 4.32 left if the six are as expected, would seem risky to leave nearly a whole point (0.96) unused.

Saw on Speedway GB today in Scunthorpe interview that Howarth left as wanted a track closer to home. Would that not narrow it to OXF/Poole/Plymouth. Only mention it as saw his name on Poole 2025 Forum mentioned a few times. However that would only take us 0.49 more if him instead of Kerr so 4.81 which still below 5 for one of these other Cont/Scand young riders.

just a thought but Mulford (rumored on the Forum to be going to Redcar) is 4.27 which fits.

Only logic of Starke for me would be 1) They feel need for more experience with a 2 pointer at reserve and likely to take more then normal 4 rides 2) Has proved at Poole he can and most likely will score more than 4 points a per meeting. Last season is evidence of that 3) Maybe the Fords are building to a tight budget. Especially with the uncertainty of whether  they will even be racing after 2025 with the stadium uncertainty.

Would still like to see the young Aussie Mcdiarmid as I see another Zischke in him if he came to UK. You have to be a good rider to see what he did in only 4 meetings in the POL U24 to see the potential. Still only 16 until next March.

If it was Howarth instead of Kerr. With 4.81 left maybe that leaves a door open for Hagon to return on a 4.73? 
 

I would welcome Sam back with open arms. Yes he tailed off hugely last year but so much potential in him and started last year on fire. He’s also in Australia over winter which will help him no doubt 

[LisaColette]

2 hours ago, Dickie Head said:

For what it’s worth, recent posts on Facebook in the past couple of days reveal that Ablitt and Trigger are yet to find Championship places in 2025.

You would have thought Trigger would at least be offered a team place at Plymouth. 

[lewy]

12 minutes ago, LisaColette said:

You would have thought Trigger would at least be offered a team place at Plymouth. 

Or Poole, still reasonably local. 

[LisaColette]

1 hour ago, STEVEHOLS54 said:

With 4.32 left if the six are as expected, would seem risky to leave nearly a whole point (0.96) unused.

Saw on Speedway GB today in Scunthorpe interview that Howarth left as wanted a track closer to home. Would that not narrow it to OXF/Poole/Plymouth. Only mention it as saw his name on Poole 2025 Forum mentioned a few times. However that would only take us 0.49 more if him instead of Kerr so 4.81 which still below 5 for one of these other Cont/Scand young riders.

just a thought but Mulford (rumored on the Forum to be going to Redcar) is 4.27 which fits.

Only logic of Starke for me would be 1) They feel need for more experience with a 2 pointer at reserve and likely to take more then normal 4 rides 2) Has proved at Poole he can and most likely will score more than 4 points a per meeting. Last season is evidence of that 3) Maybe the Fords are building to a tight budget. Especially with the uncertainty of whether  they will even be racing after 2025 with the stadium uncertainty.

Would still like to see the young Aussie Mcdiarmid as I see another Zischke in him if he came to UK. You have to be a good rider to see what he did in only 4 meetings in the POL U24 to see the potential. Still only 16 until next March.

Who is the 6 then? As no one has said who is starting at 7 in April. Can you fit Starke and Trigger at reserve? 

[STEVEHOLS54]

34 minutes ago, LisaColette said:

Who is the 6 then? As no one has said who is starting at 7 in April. Can you fit Starke and Trigger at reserve? 

Can't fit them both as with 4.32 left - Starke 3.36 & Trigger 3.00 = 6.36. I did that calculation the other day when looking at possibility of a stronger reserve than a straight 2 until expected signing Cairns arrives end June. Would only work if it was Howarth instead of Kerr but likely the Fords will go for the higher av H/L in Kerr.

Supposed we just have to wait and see how it plays out.

Makes you wonder if anything going on the the background.

Foe example in 2023 Aussie Wichael West popped over on a visit (from POL) and did some laps at Poole. As on a 5 due to riding POL U24 regular think he was too risky as not as good as Zischke.

Find in interesting that McDiarmid rode the max rides in 4 POL U24 matches to still keep a 4 av in Champ. You never know if that was pre planned or pure coincidence. He was riding against Cairns in the 250 cc in POL in 23 and was matching him in the matches they rode in.

I'm probably placing too much hope in a young going places Aussie joining Poole. 

[Bitza]

4 hours ago, SteveLyric2 said:

What about the rumoured Paul Starke?(3.36).

If its 4.3 for the final rider, I can't see it being Starke bearing in mind that Vinnie would have been an alternative. 

[Catalan]

Got a strong feeling Starkey will be Poole bound

[TigerIain]

Looking at this article, and how the promotion describe the situation, I'd say that the last rider is likely to have an ave 2 points (or just under) higher than Vinnie Foord's ave. The way I read it they had 7 lined up to 38 points including Foord, and dropped/replaced Foord when the limit went to 40

https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/sport/24738479.poole-pirates-danny-ford-vinnie-foords-departure/

Not sure what that means for the other (unannounced) team places though