Poole 2025

[Marky_Mark]

But then probably would have kept Vinnie rather than a new 4.00

[SteveLyric2]

2 minutes ago, Marky_Mark said:

But then probably would have kept Vinnie rather than a new 4.00

Isn't Vinnie's girlfriend based in the North? So not surprised he wanted to go.....!

[LisaColette]

22 minutes ago, SteveLyric2 said:

Isn't Vinnie's girlfriend based in the North? So not surprised he wanted to go.....!

So he didn't want to come back then? Worth the management saying that in the media, will get some fans off their back about it imo. 

[ASpeedwayfan]

50 minutes ago, Bitza said:

Well instead of Starke/Pijper, you could have a continental 4 and a new 2 (Cairnes). 

Yep that is what I’d hope to see. A new face to British speedway who will get the luxury of starting at reserve. The Fords often find one surprise signing. Hopefully this year is no different 

[ASpeedwayfan]

2 minutes ago, LisaColette said:

So he didn't want to come back then? Worth the management saying that in the media, will get some fans off their back about it imo. 

I think if Poole wanted Vinnie he would’ve been back. Unless Poole took too long deciding their team so he looked elsewhere? Unlikely as the Fords usually have plan A B and C sorted long before they need to 

[Bitza]

31 minutes ago, ASpeedwayfan said:

I think if Poole wanted Vinnie he would’ve been back. Unless Poole took too long deciding their team so he looked elsewhere? Unlikely as the Fords usually have plan A B and C sorted long before they need to 

Sure us fans loved to see Vinnie race, but like I've said before he was a gamble and the Ford's might not find that attractive. It'll be interesting to see how he goes next season, could go either way imo. 

[szkocjasid]

3 hours ago, szkocjasid said:

So how about this now?

Richard Lawson 9.17

Lewis Kerr 7.76

Zach Cook 6.23

Anders Rowe 6.11

Tobias Thomsen 4.41

Paul Starke 3.36

Ace Pijper 2.93

Total 39.97

 

1 hour ago, Bitza said:

Well instead of Starke/Pijper, you could have a continental 4 and a new 2 (Cairns). 

I wouldn't have gone for that team, just naming riders rumoured to be in Poole's side.

I'd have gone with Foord with Thomsen, not Starke & whoever.

[lewy]

47 minutes ago, LisaColette said:

So he didn't want to come back then? Worth the management saying that in the media, will get some fans off their back about it imo. 

Vinnie wanted to stay, and so did one of his main sponsors, if Poole had their way and the 38pt limit was imposed I reckon he would of been retained, but as it was 40 pt limit the Poole promotion went in a different direction. 

[SteveLyric2]

Danny Ford states in local Echo today it was simply a 'numbers game' that meant Vinnie couldn't be fitted in.

[lewy]

16 minutes ago, SteveLyric2 said:

Danny Ford states in local Echo today it was simply a 'numbers game' that meant Vinnie couldn't be fitted in.

His average is lower than thomsen. 

[TheWellBehavedWorrall]

I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Foord’s conduct during the Oxford meeting played a part in his exit.

To be clear, his erratic racing and villain-like character that evening were great for the BSN cameras, so this is just an observation.

Either way, he’s a huge talent with a big future and I believe Poole’s “loss” is Workington’s gain.

I also understand his girlfriend is associated with Glasgow, so location-wise, it’s much more convenient.

Edited 16 hours ago by TheWellBehavedWorrall

[Jaizer]

21 minutes ago, lewy said:

His average is lower than thomsen. 

Correct chosen to fly in an average Dane in his 30s than use a young British rider. 

[Bitza]

35 minutes ago, SteveLyric2 said:

Danny Ford states in local Echo today it was simply a 'numbers game' that meant Vinnie couldn't be fitted in.

The fact that Thompsen's average is approx 0.5% higher than Vinnie's says something about how the Fords are thinking. They obviously rate Toby's "value per %" over Vinnies, and that the potential 0.5%saving made no significant difference to the choice of other riders. 

[Sings4Speedway]

5 minutes ago, Bitza said:

The fact that Thompsen's average is approx 0.5% higher than Vinnie's says something about how the Fords are thinking. They obviously rate Toby's "value per %" over Vinnies, and that the potential 0.5%saving made no significant difference to the choice of other riders. 

Exactly that. Thomsen would have averaged even higher if it wasn't for returning too early from injury and has a strong riding skillset. Vinnie has a target on his back already, needs about 10 bikes a season and has a lot more ring its neck and hang on approach. The Fords only look at success for the upcoming season and Tobias was/is the smart choice. 

[szkocjasid]

1 hour ago, SteveLyric2 said:

Danny Ford states in local Echo today it was simply a 'numbers game' that meant Vinnie couldn't be fitted in.

 

51 minutes ago, lewy said:

His average is lower than thomsen. 

Exactly @lewy the "numbers game" is just an excuse for promoter's to use to avoid getting flack from the fans when dropping a popular rider, well in this instance especially.

Once Ben & Tom left the remaining riders could have returned if Poole wanted them to. 

Poole have every right to build the team however they like obviously. But the points limit didn't stop Foord returning, Poole did.

[Fozzie4388]

Tobias is likely to have come cheaper in terms of how many Fencing panels popped during the season too.

[Bleeds Pirate Blue]

On 11/18/2024 at 3:51 PM, Bleeds Pirate Blue said:

Richard Lawson

Lewis Kerr

Zach Cook

Anders Rowe

???

Mikkel Andersen

placeholder reserve (William Cains once he is old enough!)

 

I think Vinnie was pencilled in when the limit was expected to be 38. Once it ended up being 40, that gave the us an extra 2.00 to play with for the signing. I'm wondering if Ablitt gets brought back instead.

 

 

13 hours ago, Bitza said:

Well instead of Starke/Pijper, you could have a continental 4 and a new 2 (Cairnes). 

Well Tobias is the ???, not Ablitt as I guessed, and as previously noted, its a "continental 4.00 and a new 2.00", aka Mikkel Andersen and Will Cairns.

Edited 15 hours ago by Bleeds Pirate Blue

[Mr Blobby]

8 minutes ago, Bleeds Pirate Blue said:

 

Well Tobias is the ???, not Ablitt as I guessed, and as previously noted, it’s a "continental 4.00 and a new 2.00", aka Mikkel Andersen and Will Cairns.

Mikkel would be a 5.00 minimum.

[foreverblue]

1 hour ago, szkocjasid said:

 

Exactly @lewy the "numbers game" is just an excuse for promoter's to use to avoid getting flack from the fans when dropping a popular rider, well in this instance especially.

Once Ben & Tom left the remaining riders could have returned if Poole wanted them to. 

Poole have every right to build the team however they like obviously. But the points limit didn't stop Foord returning, Poole did.

A numbers game does not mean it was a straight choice between Vinnie and Toby, we always wanted Toby back, not having Vinnie just means we can have a stronger rider elsewhere in the team. 

[SteveLyric2]

26 minutes ago, foreverblue said:

A numbers game does not mean it was a straight choice between Vinnie and Toby, we always wanted Toby back, not having Vinnie just means we can have a stronger rider elsewhere in the team. 

As Danny Ford says If the points limit was 38 ( as in 2024) then Vinnie would be in the mix. However 40 points gives different options and a different mix of riders. I dane't know who else he has in mind?