poole keith Posted October 20, 2024 Report Share Posted October 20, 2024 On 10/20/2024 at 9:49 AM, szkocjasid said: Depends how many league matches they have left. If they planned it so they had only 5 league matches left (plus BSN, KOC & play-offs) Cairns could still be on a 2.00 average for 2026! Expand Like your thinking but how far can poole plan ahead!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted October 20, 2024 Report Share Posted October 20, 2024 On 10/20/2024 at 10:59 AM, ASpeedwayfan said: 1. Lawson 9.17 2. 4.04 rider 3. Rowe 6.11 4. zach 6.23 5. Ben 8.55 6. Foord 3.9 7. cairns 2 for a 40 point limit I know Ben is highly unlikely to do championship but he may not what to miss out on picking up a few more trophies with his brother. Leaves just over 4 points for the Fords to find a young Aussie, Dane or another foreign Talent Expand Ben doesn't need to do Champ anymore and ending on a possible treble before you move on is good way to go imo. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted October 20, 2024 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2024 On 10/20/2024 at 2:02 PM, LisaColette said: Ben doesn't need to do Champ anymore and ending on a possible treble before you move on is good way to go imo. Expand Perhaps he would rather do championship than Sweden 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted October 20, 2024 Report Share Posted October 20, 2024 On 10/20/2024 at 5:02 PM, Arthur54 said: Perhaps he would rather do championship than Sweden Expand He said he was looking to do Sweden next year on the SGB podcast a month or so ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted October 20, 2024 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2024 On 10/20/2024 at 5:37 PM, LisaColette said: He said he was looking to do Sweden next year on the SGB podcast a month or so ago. Expand Don't think Sweden is all it's cracked out to be anymore 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitza Posted October 20, 2024 Report Share Posted October 20, 2024 Heard the result of the pairs final UK bronze congratulations to the young trio, mind you the heavy lifting was by our(till Wednesday anyway) Tom Brennan. Well it made me think how lucky we've been having him as a Pirate for 2024. The top people in any sport are always two steps up on the people who are just very good, and Tom has the potential to be a top rider. I guess what I'm saying is that winning the triple this year would be a great achievement, but winning the triple in 2025 with Kerr or Thompson would be an even greater achievement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poole keith Posted October 21, 2024 Report Share Posted October 21, 2024 Winning in the top league against the top teams would be an even greater achievement. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASpeedwayfan Posted October 21, 2024 Report Share Posted October 21, 2024 On 10/20/2024 at 8:14 AM, TTT said: 40.00 Limit. 1. Lawson 2. Thomsen 3. Z. Cook 4. Rowe 5. Kerr 6. Foord 7. Cairns (When Available) = 39.57 Expand Would prefer Poole to stick with Hagon over Thompson (if not having both) Hagon did have a very poor end to the season but had kept his average over 5 until the final GSA. Hagon undoubtedly has talent and good backing. Just a huge loss of confidence as soon as he started riding in the premiership. No doubt going to Australia should help him get back to where he was and I would be disappointed if he wasn’t retained. Certainly has it in him to up his average. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 22, 2024 Report Share Posted October 22, 2024 On 10/21/2024 at 7:30 AM, poole keith said: Winning in the top league against the top teams would be an even greater achievement. Expand With very little profit though.Better winning everything in Championship than going bust. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poole keith Posted October 22, 2024 Report Share Posted October 22, 2024 On 10/22/2024 at 10:11 AM, Fromafar said: With very little profit though.Better winning everything in Championship than going bust. Expand Agree better to run than go bust tho didn't realise the promotion are sailing so close to the wind,know the French gaff needs shifting but thought speedway was solid (even allowing for tenuous landlord situation)Of course if as you say they will go bust by moving up then it would be very difficult to attract riders for a Premiership team anyway now they know that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 22, 2024 Report Share Posted October 22, 2024 On 10/22/2024 at 11:29 AM, poole keith said: Agree better to run than go bust tho didn't realise the promotion are sailing so close to the wind,know the French gaff needs shifting but thought speedway was solid (even allowing for tenuous landlord situation)Of course if as you say they will go bust by moving up then it would be very difficult to attract riders for a Premiership team anyway now they know that Expand It’s questionable where many decent riders would be attracted these days so it would be case of same riders different leagues IMO.They run a good business as it is not worth changing IMO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted October 22, 2024 Report Share Posted October 22, 2024 On 10/22/2024 at 11:29 AM, poole keith said: Agree better to run than go bust tho didn't realise the promotion are sailing so close to the wind,know the French gaff needs shifting but thought speedway was solid (even allowing for tenuous landlord situation)Of course if as you say they will go bust by moving up then it would be very difficult to attract riders for a Premiership team anyway now they know that Expand Never a case of going bust, just wanting to pay all bills on time. They don't do it just for fun do they? MF said at the time that costs were around 30% cheaper in Championship. Bearing in mind many costs are 'fixed' no matter what level of speedway we're in, the extra costs relate to riders and their deals!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poole keith Posted October 22, 2024 Report Share Posted October 22, 2024 On 10/22/2024 at 1:21 PM, SteveLyric2 said: Never a case of going bust, just wanting to pay all bills on time. They don't do it just for fun do they? MF said at the time that costs were around 30% cheaper in Championship. Bearing in mind many costs are 'fixed' no matter what level of speedway we're in, the extra costs relate to riders and their deals!! Expand So your saying "fromafar" was wrong saying they'd go bust that mustbe good news,you do understand there's no way you would ever be privy to Matt ford's financial details or many other details!But I still say if it was common knowledge the prem wasn't a viable option for the pirates riders would have to take that into consideration Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted October 22, 2024 Report Share Posted October 22, 2024 On 10/22/2024 at 1:34 PM, poole keith said: So your saying "fromafar" was wrong saying they'd go bust that mustbe good news,you do understand there's no way you would ever be privy to Matt ford's financial details or many other details!But I still say if it was common knowledge the prem wasn't a viable option for the pirates riders would have to take that into consideration Expand I saw the invoices that were still to be paid at the end of the last Elite League season. MF showed me them in the office. MF was talking to all his sponsors . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 22, 2024 Report Share Posted October 22, 2024 (edited) On 10/22/2024 at 1:34 PM, poole keith said: So your saying "fromafar" was wrong saying they'd go bust that mustbe good news,you do understand there's no way you would ever be privy to Matt ford's financial details or many other details!But I still say if it was common knowledge the prem wasn't a viable option for the pirates riders would have to take that into consideration Expand If you read my post again ,it was just generalised assumption,of what might happen.i was just taking in the extra to run in Premiership as opposed to Championship.If you want to argue among yourself please go ahead. Edited October 22, 2024 by Fromafar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 22, 2024 Report Share Posted October 22, 2024 On 10/22/2024 at 1:34 PM, poole keith said: So your saying "fromafar" was wrong saying they'd go bust that mustbe good news,you do understand there's no way you would ever be privy to Matt ford's financial details or many other details!But I still say if it was common knowledge the prem wasn't a viable option for the pirates riders would have to take that into consideration Expand i have no idea on the finances for either league, it is clear getting top riders to ride in our top league has been good for the sport in this country but it is fairly obvious the Championship is far more cost effective, we get the same crowds so get very similar income but pay out less. I would love us to compete in the top league but at this time I don't think it is worth the risk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted October 23, 2024 Report Share Posted October 23, 2024 Well it's official now. Good luck to him, be strange not having him in the team next year! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASpeedwayfan Posted October 23, 2024 Report Share Posted October 23, 2024 On 10/23/2024 at 9:14 PM, LisaColette said: Well it's official now. Good luck to him, be strange not having him in the team next year! Expand Yep gutted he won’t be back for next year. One of those riders that’s worth the entrance fee all on their own. Hopefully Poole can hold on to Tom and I would expect Zach to take over the Captaincy duties for next year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted October 23, 2024 Report Share Posted October 23, 2024 On 10/23/2024 at 9:22 PM, ASpeedwayfan said: Yep gutted he won’t be back for next year. One of those riders that’s worth the entrance fee all on their own. Hopefully Poole can hold on to Tom and I would expect Zach to take over the Captaincy duties for next year. Expand Lots of names being bandied about for 2025 after Ben's announcement. Just waiting for Tom now, probably at next week's party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted October 24, 2024 Report Share Posted October 24, 2024 On 10/23/2024 at 9:22 PM, ASpeedwayfan said: Hopefully Poole can hold on to Tom Expand On 10/23/2024 at 10:11 PM, SteveLyric2 said: Just waiting for Tom now, probably at next week's party. Expand Brennan now needs to be dropping the Championship from his busy calendar. I personally thought he was spreading himself far too thin this year and he MAY have have progressed even further with a few more breathers here and there. If Ben Cook doesn’t feel Championship racing benefits his career anymore, then Tom Brennan certainly shouldn’t. He’s on an upward trajectory and has bigger fish to fry. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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