HGould Posted September 19 Report Share Posted September 19 The Sport and specifically Championship needs a 21st century form of 1970's "Rider Control". It worked well for a decade or so until Olsen / Mauger threw their dummies out of the pram. In fact in a pre social media age it generated a fair bit of excitement to see who you had been allocated, with twice as many teams and probably 10 x as many regular fans. Even if they as an example graduated a Heat Leader list to furnish 2 per team; and a Second String list to furnish 2 per team; and then a stpulation one of the 3 remaining riders was 3 points or lower it would even things out a fair bit better than it is now. IF any Rider objected, h could decide to sit out the CL, but as we all know, no CL heat leader can realistically just ride CL and that applies to the majority of second strings... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sadman Posted September 19 Report Share Posted September 19 4 hours ago, Skidder1 said: Are you suggesting more or fewer? Who knows at this time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted September 19 Report Share Posted September 19 9 hours ago, HGould said: The Sport and specifically Championship needs a 21st century form of 1970's "Rider Control". It worked well for a decade or so until Olsen / Mauger threw their dummies out of the pram. In fact in a pre social media age it generated a fair bit of excitement to see who you had been allocated, with twice as many teams and probably 10 x as many regular fans. Even if they as an example graduated a Heat Leader list to furnish 2 per team; and a Second String list to furnish 2 per team; and then a stpulation one of the 3 remaining riders was 3 points or lower it would even things out a fair bit better than it is now. IF any Rider objected, h could decide to sit out the CL, but as we all know, no CL heat leader can realistically just ride CL and that applies to the majority of second strings... There's plenty of heat leaders & second strings who just ride in the Champ. I'm sure many would want to double up, but there's not enough Prem team spots to allow that. Rory Schlein, Danyon Hume, Jye Etheridge, Paco Castagna, Kye Thomson, Lasse Fredriksen, James Pearson, Matic Ivacic, Jack Smith, Cameron Heeps, Ben Barker, Alfie Bowtell, Tobias Thomsen, Jake Allen, Simon Lambert, Troy Batchelor & Claus Vissing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted September 19 Report Share Posted September 19 9 hours ago, Pirates Of Poole said: Think Starke would be a solid number 7 on his average 9 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: Not sure. His equipment is crap. So many EF’s. Rather have an ambitious youngster in the team. No offence to Sam McGurk, but he could be considered an "ambitious youngster" but I'd never pick him ahead of Paul Starke. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted September 19 Report Share Posted September 19 9 hours ago, HGould said: The Sport and specifically Championship needs a 21st century form of 1970's "Rider Control". It worked well for a decade or so until Olsen / Mauger threw their dummies out of the pram. In fact in a pre social media age it generated a fair bit of excitement to see who you had been allocated, with twice as many teams and probably 10 x as many regular fans. Even if they as an example graduated a Heat Leader list to furnish 2 per team; and a Second String list to furnish 2 per team; and then a stipulation one of the 3 remaining riders was 3 points or lower it would even things out a fair bit better than it is now. IF any Rider objected, he could decide to sit out the CL, but as we all know, no CL heat leader can realistically just ride CL and that applies to the majority of second strings... I've never been a massive fan of too many restrictions, feel once you have a points limit then it's up to clubs to decide how to build their team. However I wouldn't be against the top 9 riders in the league being shared out (1 per club) then after that build your team to the limit? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 7 hours ago, szkocjasid said: I've never been a massive fan of too many restrictions, feel once you have a points limit then it's up to clubs to decide how to build their team. However I wouldn't be against the top 9 riders in the league being shared out (1 per club) then after that build your team to the limit? As long as the riders agree!!😇 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 8 hours ago, szkocjasid said: I've never been a massive fan of too many restrictions, feel once you have a points limit then it's up to clubs to decide how to build their team. However I wouldn't be against the top 9 riders in the league being shared out (1 per club) then after that build your team to the limit? 57 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: As long as the riders agree!!😇 As someone suggested a few posts ago, if you don't agree then you don't have a team, 10th best rider then becomes a number one? Not sure if really want to go that way (forcing someone to go where they don't want to) though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 11 hours ago, szkocjasid said: I've never been a massive fan of too many restrictions, feel once you have a points limit then it's up to clubs to decide how to build their team. However I wouldn't be against the top 9 riders in the league being shared out (1 per club) then after that build your team to the limit? Don’t think that is feasible.Top riders wouldn’t like told where to ride,based on their other commitments alone. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 1 hour ago, Fromafar said: Don’t think that is feasible.Top riders wouldn’t like told where to ride,based on their other commitments alone. The old days of 'Rider Control' are long gone!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted September 20 Author Report Share Posted September 20 Some Glasgow supporters seem to think Anders Rowe is Poole bound next season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 Poole will only retain Lawson and zach cook,vinny and hagon will be elsewhere, thomsen won't be back. Brennan and B.cook not doing championship next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted September 20 Author Report Share Posted September 20 6 minutes ago, lewy said: Poole will only retain Lawson and zach cook,vinny and hagon will be elsewhere, thomsen won't be back. Brennan and B.cook not doing championship next season. Has there been an official announcement Ben not doing championship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 33 minutes ago, Arthur54 said: Has there been an official announcement Ben not doing championship I don't think so but it's seems to be very likely 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 1 hour ago, Arthur54 said: Has there been an official announcement Ben not doing championship Ben might want to do that himself at the last meeting, like Steve Worrall did last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTW Posted September 22 Report Share Posted September 22 (edited) On 9/20/2024 at 7:37 PM, lewy said: Poole will only retain Lawson and zach cook,vinny and hagon will be elsewhere, thomsen won't be back. Brennan and B.cook not doing championship next season. Where are Vinnie and Sam going? Thomsen was 50/50 for me done well majority of season but seems to have tailed off at the end. If Poole go with Lawson 9.17 with 2.5% reduction Rowe 6.11 with 2.5% reduction Z Cook 6.23 Total 21.51 hopefully they push the limit upto atleast 40 for the benefit of the league ideally 42 would be better but can’t see a huge increase upto 42 so 40 would be progress. im assuming 2.5%reduction is still in place would Poole go with someone to fit in between Rowe and Lawson in the averages…that’s the big question but I would be happy that Rowe signs as he’s definitely progressing every season. Edited September 22 by PTW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc131 Posted September 22 Report Share Posted September 22 28 minutes ago, PTW said: Where are Vinnie and Sam going? Thomsen was 50/50 for me done well majority of season but seems to have tailed off at the end. If Poole go with Lawson 9.17 with 2.5% reduction Rowe 6.11 with 2.5% reduction Z Cook 6.23 Total 21.51 hopefully they push the limit upto atleast 40 for the benefit of the league ideally 42 would be better but can’t see a huge increase upto 42 so 40 would be progress. im assuming 2.5%reduction is still in place would Poole go with someone to fit in between Rowe and Lawson in the averages…that’s the big question but I would be happy that Rowe signs as he’s definitely progressing every season. Its staying at 38 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTW Posted September 22 Report Share Posted September 22 28 minutes ago, mc131 said: Its staying at 38 If that’s correct then that’s Ashame continually get weakened year on year where as they make the premiership stronger each year,a lot of championship clubs got to rip up there teams every year with this stupid 38pt limit for 7 riders essentially forcing riders to jump around and end up being less competitive every year so there ends up being there’s no continuity and then fan base dwindles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted September 22 Report Share Posted September 22 1 hour ago, PTW said: Where are Vinnie and Sam going? Thomsen was 50/50 for me done well majority of season but seems to have tailed off at the end. If Poole go with Lawson 9.17 with 2.5% reduction Rowe 6.11 with 2.5% reduction Z Cook 6.23 Total 21.51 hopefully they push the limit upto atleast 40 for the benefit of the league ideally 42 would be better but can’t see a huge increase upto 42 so 40 would be progress. im assuming 2.5%reduction is still in place would Poole go with someone to fit in between Rowe and Lawson in the averages…that’s the big question but I would be happy that Rowe signs as he’s definitely progressing every season. Vinnie to Glasgow Sam back to Oxford 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTW Posted September 22 Report Share Posted September 22 31 minutes ago, HGould said: Vinnie to Glasgow Sam back to Oxford Cheers would of liked Vinnie to stay tbh you know the reasoning for Vinnie to Glasgow as I’m guessing Poole haven’t offered him a deal which seems strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted September 22 Report Share Posted September 22 2 minutes ago, PTW said: Cheers would of liked Vinnie to stay tbh you know the reasoning for Vinnie to Glasgow as I’m guessing Poole haven’t offered him a deal which seems strange. With Vinnie's support team and advisors very much Southern-based - lets wait and see. There is something of a debate amongst some Pirate fans that Vinnie will drop back to 2.00 pts for team building. Not sure where that has come from??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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