Sheffield vs Ipswich 2024 Cup Final Sept 2nd

[Cue Ball]

2 minutes ago, Col said:

Hopefully Lindgren is booked for the playoff, guest wise for the Witches?  Janowski too? 

Brennan already booked for one of the 2 guest places 

[ShanoXtra]

3 minutes ago, Col said:

Result of this was never in doubt unless Ipswich made a significant signing to replace Doyle.  Add Sayfutdinov injury to that, forget it as a contest.  Booking Lidsey as guest @#1? His scores away from NSS are generally lackluster.

Hopefully Lindgren is booked for the playoff, guest wise for the Witches?  Janowski too? 

Brennan is for play offs already confirmed. Only one guest spot left unless Emil is fit. Lindgren unavailable.

I logged into BSN but didn’t have any meeting… had a count down then just said meeting office,  refreshed the screen and only available was the 5th meeting 

[Manifesto]

Did feel like a bit of hollow victory, Jack and Picko unreal very fast tonight would have loved to see Sayfutdinov have a go with them both.
The effort was there from all Ipswich riders but getting race wins was just so hard to come by. Fighting for second and third place against our reserves and an absolute woeful Kyle Howarth was best they could do. We’d have to ride pretty awful to lose by 20+ on Thursday just want to see some good racing more than anything and see Ipswich fight for some pride because they deserve to end their season with fight.

[Fromafar]

1 hour ago, ShanoXtra said:

Just out if interested has anyone actually been able to try and watch the rerun on BSN, they had it prepped to go then just dropped offline and when refreshed only had our Thursday meeting. I wonder why this sport is so damaged in this country!?!? Eurosport and now BSN can’t get it right. Congrats Sheffield though. I doubt many people will be turning up Thursday. 

Have watched the re-run no problem.It transfers down to meetings already shown on BSN as usual don’t think BSN got anything wrong just you.

 

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

I thought it was a brave effort overall but it was never gonna be enough

There is one teeny weeny chance - make Foxhall deep wet and rough and roll the dice. It won't be pretty but then again it won't be a classic whatever!

[TTT]

Danny King is basically Ippo's version of Casemiro at this point.

[TTT]

2 hours ago, Gavan said:

Jesus what do people expect from King? Lidsey and Brennan score 13 between them and Doyle and Emil let’s say got 20 and it’s a 6 point loss and everyone would have been happy 

King isn’t a heat leader at this level and he wasn’t signed to be one he was signed to get 7 or 8 a meeting along with Ellis so is anyone going to have pop at Ellis as well …. And reserves do beat higher ranked riders especially at home …. Jenkins beat Bewley the other week and Dan T has beat Janowski and also Harris this season to name but two

 

To not get beaten by reserves when he's suppose to lead by example as a HL and club captain.

[Steve Irving]

8 hours ago, Cue Ball said:

Would be interested to know what people who watch the meeting on BSN think - in heat 7 I was far from convinced  that Edwards did beat him!

I know it was a big win, but actually closer than I expected, with the team that Ipswich arrived with I thought it may be a true mauling. Chris Holder had a couple of uncharacteristic thirds, Howarth had a mare and Gilkes just wasn’t quite on it tonight, but it was by far and away the best meeting Picko had had around Sheffield for a while, so maybe equalled out for the others being slightly sub-par.

It will be a major shock if we don’t pick up the trophy, but as others have said, a slightly hollow victory when the opposition have been so badly hit by injuries. Not over until the fat bloke sings though

Understatement of the year! Let’s have it right, Ipswich were a better side than Sheffield this year, the results between the clubs when both were at full strength proves that. The table before Emil joined Doyle on the sidelines also proves that. You’ll get some fans come on with “it’s not our fault we can only beat what’s put in front of us” or, “well that’s speedway injuries can happen”, you’ll always get supporters who are desperate for silverware and couldn’t care less how they get it. But the fact is, the injuries to Ipswich haven’t just spoiled it for Ipswich, they’ve spoiled it for everyone else because the clubs that lift the pots will know it’s a hollow victory. Surely as a fan you want to take on your opponents at their strongest so you know any victory would be fully deserved? No excuses can be made by the losing team, won fair and square. Yes injuries do happen of course they do, but losing not one but two 9.5 pointers is bonkers.

Edited September 3 by Steve Irving

[Arch Stanton]

We actually covered Doyle’s absence really well to be fair. He’s been out since mid May but we still managed to win most meetings both home and away even with inferior guests and rider replacement. But once Emil crashed at Sheffield (and let’s not forget we were 2 points up going in to heat 15 and fighting for the win for the second time there this season) the whole team collapsed. The younger members of the team who had all stepped up a gear this year, suddenly lost a bit of form when the pressure to be the main players in the game rather than the supporting acts, naturally took its toll. 
 

Then Ellis joined Doyle and Emil on the sidelines when he crashed out of his opening heat in our next fixture at home to Leicester, and that was the season dead and buried. No chance of signing replacements even if they now become available, and very limited guest choice. A season that promised everything has turned in to a season to forget. Maybe next year!

[ShanoXtra]

8 hours ago, Fromafar said:

Have watched the re-run no problem.It transfers down to meetings already shown on BSN as usual don’t think BSN got anything wrong just you.

 

As usual ? 😂

[Manifesto]

38 minutes ago, Steve Irving said:

Understatement of the year! Let’s have it right, Ipswich were a better side than Sheffield this year, the results between the clubs when both were at full strength proves that. The table before Emil joined Doyle on the sidelines also proves that. You’ll get some fans come on with “it’s not our fault we can only beat what’s put in front of us” or, “well that’s speedway injuries can happen”, you’ll always get supporters who are desperate for silverware and couldn’t care less how they get it. But the fact is, the injuries to Ipswich haven’t just spoiled it for Ipswich, they’ve spoiled it for everyone else because the clubs that lift the pots will know it’s a hollow victory. Surely as a fan you want to take on your opponents at their strongest so you know any victory would be fully deserved? No excuses can be made by the losing team, won fair and square. Yes injuries do happen of course they do, but losing not one but two 9.5 pointers is bonkers.

We have also missed Tai, he was our best rider away from home all season. Pickering has now hit his top form and I would have fancied us against Ipswich with Doyle and Emil over 2 legs with him in the team. All hindsight though we had the same last year losing Tai and Toby just before the play offs 

[IanBrannan]

3 minutes ago, ShanoXtra said:

As usual ? 😂

There were and indeed are no issues with the stream, it dropped the second Eurosport came off air, as advertised. This was slightly later than the anticipated 9:30 but it can only go live once Eurosport had finished. 

[ShanoXtra]

2 minutes ago, IanBrannan said:

There were and indeed are no issues with the stream, it dropped the second Eurosport came off air, as advertised. This was slightly later than the anticipated 9:30 but it can only go live once Eurosport had finished. 

Interesting, we had the countdown format then when it loaded was the previous Sheffield vs Ipswich league match? Refreshed the screen and got a “currently offline” message? We sat on the screen waiting from 21:30 until the 22:00 (roughly) start time. 

[IanBrannan]

48 minutes ago, ShanoXtra said:

Interesting, we had the countdown format then when it loaded was the previous Sheffield vs Ipswich league match? Refreshed the screen and got a “currently offline” message? We sat on the screen waiting from 21:30 until the 22:00 (roughly) start time. 

That will be because we anticipated it would be around 9:30, but was around 9:55 in the end which obviously we can’t count down to a time we don’t know. So apologies for the delay but it was always approximate depending on Eurosport and did go live at the very earliest opportunity 👍🏻

Edited September 3 by IanBrannan

[Odds On]

Track was as poor as the Ipswich performance.

Gotta feel for Ipswich, no matter which speedway team you support losing two of the best riders in the league then no matter what guests you bring in you will never have the same points scoring or the same team spirit within the camp.

 Think we all know that Ipswich with a full team would of kept it to around a maximum of 10 points last night, if anything they did well to keep it to 20.

 Fair play to Sheffield they can do no more than they did and will win the cup convincingly.

[ShanoXtra]

2 hours ago, IanBrannan said:

That will be because we anticipated it would be around 9:30, but was around 9:55 in the end which obviously we can’t count down to a time we don’t know. So apologies for the delay but it was always approximate depending on Eurosport and did go live at the very earliest opportunity 👍🏻

Brilliant! Thanks for clearing it up, I logged out when it said offline which I guess was when the new stream was being activated so it’s me jumping the gun! Just checked and I’ve logged out and in and now it’s on my account. Appreciate the update though 🤛🏼 thank you 

[SPEEDY69]

12 hours ago, TTT said:

To not get beaten by reserves when he's suppose to lead by example as a HL and club captain.

I think he does not exude the personality of someone suited to the captain role - they should be on the front foot eliciting positivity to all riders and also when being interviewed, so that the team get inspired. Unfortunately King has appeared disillusioned and downbeat, something which although they might feel, they should not let others see.

[KevtheRev]

Where was King when Dan came off in heat 2.  Ellis was there checking on his team mate, but no captain!!

[spin king]

8 hours ago, Steve Irving said:

Understatement of the year! Let’s have it right, Ipswich were a better side than Sheffield this year, the results between the clubs when both were at full strength proves that. The table before Emil joined Doyle on the sidelines also proves that. You’ll get some fans come on with “it’s not our fault we can only beat what’s put in front of us” or, “well that’s speedway injuries can happen”, you’ll always get supporters who are desperate for silverware and couldn’t care less how they get it. But the fact is, the injuries to Ipswich haven’t just spoiled it for Ipswich, they’ve spoiled it for everyone else because the clubs that lift the pots will know it’s a hollow victory. Surely as a fan you want to take on your opponents at their strongest so you know any victory would be fully deserved? No excuses can be made by the losing team, won fair and square. Yes injuries do happen of course they do, but losing not one but two 9.5 pointers is bonkers.

I think everybody acknowledges that prior to the injuries to Emil and Jason they were possible on course to make the final and quite probably win it.

But as pointed out they lost not only the best rider in the league but the second best, its not fair but neither is life and at the end of the day you have to take knocks when they come around.

Personally I would love to beat an Ipswich at full strength but it just not possible, but suggest that fans from Sheffield, Belle Vue and Leicester should not celebrate winning the Play offs is wrong and unfair.    

[spin king]

16 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said:

I thought it was a brave effort overall but it was never gonna be enough

There is one teeny weeny chance - make Foxhall deep wet and rough and roll the dice. It won't be pretty but then again it won't be a classic whatever!

As the home team you can set your track up to suit your own riders and unsettle the opposition.

You totally entitled.