cowboy cookie returns? Posted September 5 Report Share Posted September 5 3 minutes ago, spin king junior said: But he guested earlier in the competition for Ipswich, so surely it's only Ipswich that can use him again? Correct we could. I think in all honesty Ipswich were hoping that Lindgren would guest in place of Doyle for the play off & cup final. That was before Emil was injured, then I think everyone including the Emil hoped that he would be back in early September, he pulled out late last week of Torún’s meeting. I’ve been critical of Kings performances over the past few weeks but to be honest I can’t put too much blame on the management I’ve never know a season where you’re entire team gets injured & when 4 riders are out at the same time including your top 2. The last crisis we had like this was 1990 when Norris & Standing both got injured at Exeter. I do however think the management could have been more open about the reasons riders are unavailable. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted September 5 Report Share Posted September 5 7 hours ago, TTT said: Can you voluntarily relinquish your place in the play-offs? If you can then Ippo should jump at the chance because it's beyond ridiculous now to a point where it holds no financial logic to run another meeting at Foxhall this season. 54 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: Contractually probably not. People would also call it a “farce” if we did that but it’s already a farce in the way they’ve pissed up the semi final draw and no more of a farce than turning up with the majority of the team made up of guests from other clubs. At least Oxford would have their own team of riders and the two semi finals would be competitive and more entertaining to watch. I honestly don’t think the majority of Ipswich supporters would be bothered at this point I really don’t. Surely it only takes all parties to agree 'for commercial reasons'...... 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin Jason 72 Posted September 5 Report Share Posted September 5 Are the trophy presentations before or after heat 1 ? Asking for a friend 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted September 5 Report Share Posted September 5 (edited) 45 minutes ago, cowboy cookie returns? said: Correct we could. I think in all honesty Ipswich were hoping that Lindgren would guest in place of Doyle for the play off & cup final. That was before Emil was injured, then I think everyone including the Emil hoped that he would be back in early September, he pulled out late last week of Torún’s meeting. I’ve been critical of Kings performances over the past few weeks but to be honest I can’t put too much blame on the management I’ve never know a season where you’re entire team gets injured & when 4 riders are out at the same time including your top 2. The last crisis we had like this was 1990 when Norris & Standing both got injured at Exeter. I do however think the management could have been more open about the reasons riders are unavailable. Louis confirms here that the plan was to use Lindgren as they knew Birminghams season would be over, and the wheels were put in motion months ago. His Polish club eventually put the kibosh on that idea. Edited September 5 by Arch Stanton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveWayne Posted September 5 Report Share Posted September 5 8 hours ago, TTT said: I've never known anything like it in Speedway. Whole team is basically being wiped out at this point. 47 minutes ago, cowboy cookie returns? said: Correct we could. I think in all honesty Ipswich were hoping that Lindgren would guest in place of Doyle for the play off & cup final. That was before Emil was injured, then I think everyone including the Emil hoped that he would be back in early September, he pulled out late last week of Torún’s meeting. I’ve been critical of Kings performances over the past few weeks but to be honest I can’t put too much blame on the management I’ve never know a season where you’re entire team gets injured & when 4 riders are out at the same time including your top 2. The last crisis we had like this was 1990 when Norris & Standing both got injured at Exeter. I do however think the management could have been more open about the reasons riders are unavailable. So Holder, Woffinden, Musielak, Vissing and Gilkes last season wasn't comparable then ? Not only missing the top 2, but also the injury replacement for one of the top 2 !! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted September 5 Report Share Posted September 5 1 hour ago, spin king junior said: But he guested earlier in the competition for Ipswich, so surely it's only Ipswich that can use him again? ah right. maybe thats where im mistaken, i thought i saw that sheffield couldnt use him because he was cup tied, but maybe that was just because hes guested for ipwich in the competition. which begs the question why are ipswich not using nicholls or harris tonight? guest is always better than RR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted September 5 Report Share Posted September 5 Doesn't Nicholls have child support "issues", meaning he can't/doesn't want to ride every meeting on the calendar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old bob at herne bay Posted September 5 Report Share Posted September 5 Surely Ipswich could justifiably claim postponement of tonight’s meeting , being unable to raise a competitive team? Seem to recall Uncle Buster being allowed to do so for KL on more than one occasion ( including the infamous damaged pit gate scandal) Mr P Morris surely has the power to intervene for commercial reasons and in the interests of the sport. You still have the feeling that it depends who you are in this sport as to how you are treated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted September 5 Report Share Posted September 5 9 hours ago, Debbi said: Scot won’t be riding as he will be presenting. He has made it clear that he didn’t want to race full time premiership because of other commitments. not tonight he isn't it's on BSN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted September 5 Report Share Posted September 5 44 minutes ago, DaveWayne said: So Holder, Woffinden, Musielak, Vissing and Gilkes last season wasn't comparable then ? Not only missing the top 2, but also the injury replacement for one of the top 2 !! No because that's not a whole team. Ipswich have had every member of the 1-7 on the sidelines at some point, Some riders have even been on the sidelines twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted September 5 Report Share Posted September 5 14 minutes ago, old bob at herne bay said: Surely Ipswich could justifiably claim postponement of tonight’s meeting , being unable to raise a competitive team? Seem to recall Uncle Buster being allowed to do so for KL on more than one occasion ( including the infamous damaged pit gate scandal) Mr P Morris surely has the power to intervene for commercial reasons and in the interests of the sport. You still have the feeling that it depends who you are in this sport as to how you are treated. Need to refuse to hold the meeting, What's the worse punishment they can recieve? Points deductions = No because it's a Cup tie. Fine = More than likely wouldn't be as much as they'd lose on the gate anyway, Therefore happy days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy cookie returns? Posted September 5 Report Share Posted September 5 I’m popping over to Foxhall with my screw driver set to tamper with the pit gate, they won’t get the spares unti the last week of October all ok 😂 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickyag Posted September 5 Report Share Posted September 5 As a neutral (ex-Panthers) got to feel sympathy for Ipswich club and supporters. Season started so well then for every rider to be injured throughout the season. Went over to watch the Oxford meeting and Ipswich fans were still showing support 👍. Good luck for the remainder of the season and keep your heads held high 🤞 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazski Posted September 5 Report Share Posted September 5 James Pearson replacing Jordan Jenkins tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted September 5 Report Share Posted September 5 10 hours ago, Debbi said: Scot won’t be riding as he will be presenting. He has made it clear that he didn’t want to race full time premiership because of other commitments. I think Nicholls has dedicated himself to his Oxford meetings, so he was at Oxford last night and Redcar on Friday, which are far more important. Obviously King and Jenkins are in both of those matches too, but are obliged to turn out for Ipswich (unless injured 🤕). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bojangles Posted September 5 Report Share Posted September 5 Jordan Jenkins is out for the rest of the season - was confirmed at the press conference post Oxford vs Redcar last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted September 5 Report Share Posted September 5 Scott can’t do tonight’s meeting and the reason is nobody’s business to be honest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP78 Posted September 5 Report Share Posted September 5 Inclined to agree that both the play off semi final legs vs Leicester will be an absolute waste of time and we’ll end up putting out an Ipswich 2nd strings and Oxford select… not good for the paying public and representation of the sport generally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted September 5 Report Share Posted September 5 1 hour ago, TTT said: No because that's not a whole team. Ipswich have had every member of the 1-7 on the sidelines at some point, Some riders have even been on the sidelines twice. We can add Kerr Howarth and Vissing to our list as well, they were all injured at some point as well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted September 5 Report Share Posted September 5 1 hour ago, DaveWayne said: So Holder, Woffinden, Musielak, Vissing and Gilkes last season wasn't comparable then ? Not only missing the top 2, but also the injury replacement for one of the top 2 !! Not in the slightest Your 1-7 at the start of the season was Musielek Kerr Ellis Bellego Jack Holder Howarth and Gilkes In the play off final you had Lambert for Holder Chris Holder for Ellis Chris Harris for Musielek Pickering for Bellego Etheridge for Kerr Edwards for Gilkes The injuries you got last season plus sacking certain riders helped you become stronger for sure We couldn’t go out and sign a Lambert this season it wasn’t allowed and riders didn’t want to come …. So no what we have suffered this season does not compare to what you had 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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