Gavan Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 15 minutes ago, Bash said: There was nothing wrong with the track, the gating tart just wasn't making the starts and when he did it was against two far from fit riders in King & Ellis. He also needs to take a lesson from his brother on how to take a bit of banter😀 I wouldn’t say he’s a gating tart but last night again showed his immaturity…. After the meeting I had a chat again with Steady who remembered my granddaughter from the last meeting and also Chris Holder who took time to chat … my daughter also took pics of the Sheffield fans with Steady and some fans and the cup down by the pits …. I’d like to think we are gracious losers and Holder and Steady appreciated it …… as for Jack as he walked past I said well done and all I got was a smirk ….. his brother totally different …. Young Jack still had growing up to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 4 minutes ago, Gavan said: I wouldn’t say he’s a gating tart but last night again showed his immaturity…. After the meeting I had a chat again with Steady who remembered my granddaughter from the last meeting and also Chris Holder who took time to chat … my daughter also took pics of the Sheffield fans with Steady and some fans and the cup down by the pits …. I’d like to think we are gracious losers and Holder and Steady appreciated it …… as for Jack as he walked past I said well done and all I got was a smirk ….. his brother totally different …. Young Jack still had growing up to do He's 28 now. I doubt if he will.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dornier Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Bash said: There was nothing wrong with the track, the gating tart just wasn't making the starts and when he did it was against two far from fit riders in King & Ellis. He also needs to take a lesson from his brother on how to take a bit of banter😀 Didn't Ellis say on BSN the track wasn't nice to ride ? or words to that effect Edited September 6 by Dornier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 Just now, Dornier said: Didn't Ellis say on BSN the track wasn't nice to ride ? Haven't seen the BSN stream, I was at the track and maybe it wasn't for Ellis as he has only just come back from injury. Riders weren't getting into trouble. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 26 minutes ago, Gavan said: I wouldn’t say he’s a gating tart but last night again showed his immaturity…. After the meeting I had a chat again with Steady who remembered my granddaughter from the last meeting and also Chris Holder who took time to chat … my daughter also took pics of the Sheffield fans with Steady and some fans and the cup down by the pits …. I’d like to think we are gracious losers and Holder and Steady appreciated it …… as for Jack as he walked past I said well done and all I got was a smirk ….. his brother totally different …. Young Jack still had growing up to do He is at Ipswich! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 2 minutes ago, Dornier said: Didn't Ellis say on BSN the track wasn't nice to ride ? or words to that effect Ellis said that but also said it was done for the home riders as the away riders would struggle with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 I think like others have said on here it had a lot to do with gate picks. Ipswich had the better ones at the beginning and Sheffield got them later on when they pulled the score back, also the lack of big hitters at the end of the meeting came into it. Maybe Ipswich should've picked the worst ones at the start when the away riders struggle and get the better ones later 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 6 hours ago, Trees said: Surely not??? I was there and saw no blading of the track, it just slickened off naturally. Ipswich gated poorly in general and I did expect more from Ellis and Brennan, given his strong showing the week before. It was never going to be, the best team won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dornier Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 (edited) 7 hours ago, Trees said: Surely not??? Its a joke for Gavan. On Tigers last visit Gavan claimed the Holders had asked the track man to blade the track and he had complied. Edited September 6 by Dornier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 3 hours ago, SPEEDY69 said: I was there and saw no blading of the track, it just slickened off naturally. Ipswich gated poorly in general and I did expect more from Ellis and Brennan, given his strong showing the week before. It was never going to be, the best team won. Don't forget that last week, Brennan was riding against Ipswich ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 2 hours ago, Dornier said: Its a joke for Gavan. On Tigers last visit Gavan claimed the Holders had asked the track man to blade the track and he had complied. In their previous visit J.Holder said on TV that after the first heat he told them to blade the track. I don't think it was just the gate positions that made a difference - in both matches Ipswich allowed the track to dry and slicken, which was just what Sheffield wanted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 1 hour ago, Roger Jacobs said: Don't forget that last week, Brennan was riding against Ipswich ... Ha, I didn't but his gating was worse than his Ipswich teammate in some of his races, so a worse performance I think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 (edited) Didn't Sheffield win this after heat 12 but nobody seemed to realise, Ippo had 73 to Tigers 89 with only 15 points still available to Ippo Edited September 6 by iainb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo95 Posted September 7 Report Share Posted September 7 1 hour ago, iainb said: Didn't Sheffield win this after heat 12 but nobody seemed to realise, Ippo had 73 to Tigers 89 with only 15 points still available to Ippo That's what I was thinking when I seen heat 13 on Facebook. Been on holiday so not seen the matches yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted September 7 Report Share Posted September 7 8 hours ago, iainb said: Didn't Sheffield win this after heat 12 but nobody seemed to realise, Ippo had 73 to Tigers 89 with only 15 points still available to Ippo I commented as such when heat 13 was posted on BSN Facebook I got the reply "but riders dont really celebrate until the team passes 91 points" I resisted replying again about how stupid this was..... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted September 7 Report Share Posted September 7 9 hours ago, iainb said: Didn't Sheffield win this after heat 12 but nobody seemed to realise, Ippo had 73 to Tigers 89 with only 15 points still available to Ippo After Ht 11 in my view. 18 behind on aggregate with only 4 races left, so only a mystical series of 5-0s would have done it This was why I was very surprised they left Pearson in Ht 11. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted September 7 Report Share Posted September 7 (edited) 30 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: I commented as such when heat 13 was posted on BSN Facebook I got the reply "but riders dont really celebrate until the team passes 91 points" I resisted replying again about how stupid this was..... From what I can gather, riders don't really know the score at any point of a meeting (let alone a 2 legged match up!)... and why 91?!? It only needed the most basic grasp of maths to work out there was no way Tigers could be caught... back to night school for Mr Stead 😁 Edited September 7 by iainb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted September 7 Report Share Posted September 7 1 minute ago, iainb said: From what I can gather, riders don't really know the score, it only needed the most basic grasp of maths to work out there was no way Tigers could be caught... There is a mountain of empirical evidence (cf any Kelvin Tatum commentary) to show that there is little point in expecting this to change. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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