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Sheffield vs Ipswich 2024 Cup Final Sept 2nd


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28 minutes ago, old bob at herne bay said:

OMG ……”we've had more riders injured than you “ . Oh no you haven’t …oh yes we have. 
 

what’s this ….pantomime season? 

No its not, its just saying that what has happened to Ipswich has happened to other teams as well

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2 hours ago, DaveWayne said:

 

So Holder, Woffinden, Musielak, Vissing and Gilkes last season wasn't comparable then ? 

Not only missing the top 2, but also the injury replacement for one of the top 2 !!

Absolutely not.

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5 minutes ago, The Third Man said:

No its not, its just saying that what has happened to Ipswich has happened to other teams as well

And the biggest problem is that the BSPA/L and SCB have run away from developing any sensibly/clearly written Regs that would help teams affected at the business end of the season - precisely when there's the most chance of commercial interest.

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3 minutes ago, Roger Jacobs said:

And the biggest problem is that the BSPA/L and SCB have run away from developing any sensibly/clearly written Regs that would help teams affected at the business end of the season - precisely when there's the most chance of commercial interest.

How long have Ipswich had to replace Doyle?

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The problem is because Sheffield chopped and changed guests for both legs the rules have been clamped down on so there is a limited number of guests available. Also this was meant to be a free week for the cup final only but because of King's Lynn over running with their fixtures it has reduced the guests available even more. Ipswich could've tried to get some Leicester riders like Fricke, Lawson, Douglas, Masters & Becker to guest as Ipswich knocked them out in the first round and not the semi-finals. A one side final like this does nothing for the sport. Expect a similar score to the first leg tonight.

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10 minutes ago, The Third Man said:

How long have Ipswich had to replace Doyle?

With the hold Poland have over riders not a lot to choose from as other teams have found out. If Doyle's injury had happened a week earlier maybe we could have beaten Birmingham to get Freddie

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why cant some people just get their head around that losing Doyle and Emil IS irreplaceable?....and as the late Sinead once said "nothing compares".

 Some(not all) Sheffield fans cannot even win with a slight bit of dignity and class, you got lucky with racing against a very unlucky opposing finalist, its sport it happens.

 The final could of been a cracker with both teams at full strength.

 

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1 hour ago, The Third Man said:

How long have Ipswich had to replace Doyle?

Amazingly, they just about managed without Doyle, and (as we now know) the Witches thought they'd have Lindgren for the big matches.  However, it was the injury to Sayfutdinov which kiboshed the season, with any chance of finding any replacement scuppered by the transfer window - which takes no account of riders missing the remaining fixtures due to injury. That is thanks to BV's use of poorly written Regulations, and the BSPA/L's and SCB's knee-jerk reaction to prevent changes from happening - even though they know it has a serious impact on the play-offs, and makes a mockery of Phil Morris's more recent involvement and the need for "commercially based decisions". How can Ipswich advertise the Play-offs as a worthwhile event?

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56 minutes ago, old bob at herne bay said:

Any suggestions of who you would hav e chosen Third Man ??? (Assume money is no constraint to make it  a little easier for you 🙂

Don’t think there is much interest in Top Riders riding in GB nowadays.Very different tracks and setups  and travelling for not a lot of meetings.

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51 minutes ago, cowboy cookie returns? said:

Looks like Emil is back for Torún for their next match it’s on their Facebook page

The question now is if he comes through their meeting unscathed will Torun let him ride for Ipswich next week,  if not I presume that will be a 28 day ban.  I'm keeping fingers crossed that Emil gets a say in the decision and we see him in the UK fir the playoffs.

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20 minutes ago, The Third Man said:

Not my job, but KL found Kvech

That wasn't as a replacement for Musielak, that was an attempt to bolster a struggling team. There was no guarantee Kvech would settle - although having KL as his home track probably helped. It would be interesting to know how long KL were talking to him and arranging a deal (fixture list & travel, machinery, mechanics, transport, sponsorship, work permit), before he was finally signed.

Apart from what Louis has said about approaching some riders, and the difficulties of arranging things when their seasons are already organised, there hasn't been any information about the actual riders, e.g. would they have taken a risk on Huckenbeck or such like?

As usual with speedway, fans are left with speculation and rumour.

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28 minutes ago, Fromafar said:

Don’t think there is much interest in Top Riders riding in GB nowadays.Very different tracks and setups  and travelling for not a lot of meetings.

When many of the so called 'top riders' do come they find out they're not so 'top' over here.  Riding on billiard table wide open track is very different to what they have to master here.

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3 hours ago, The Third Man said:

We can add Kerr Howarth and Vissing to our list as well, they were all injured at some point as well

Is that the same Kerr you sacked before the cut off? And the same Vissing you got a ringer guest for in the play off final that scored paid double figures?

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