A Development thought for 2025!

[Fortythirtyeight]

On 10/24/2024 at 7:42 PM, ouch said:

Absolutely, you’ve been a welcome addition to the NDL for the last five seasons. If we can do it, then why can’t others?

Ask the promoters.

[phillwhitewasmad]

With yesterday's announcement regarding more teams looking to join the national league it will be interesting to see what the points limit will be . Also will the upper level championship average be raised as currently will block several riders from competing. Will they stop riders doing all three leagues personally think anyone riding premier league shouldn't be in national league.

Edited November 15 by phillwhitewasmad

[szkocjasid]

1 hour ago, phillwhitewasmad said:

With yesterday's announcement regarding more teams looking to join the national league it will be interesting to see what the points limit will be . Also will the upper level championship average be raised as currently will block several riders from competing. Will they stop riders doing all three leagues personally think anyone riding premier league shouldn't be in national league.

Totally agree, if you're good enough to be racing against Doyle, Sayfutdinov, Bewley etc surely you're too good to compete against Mark Parker & Jack Shimelt etc al

[szkocjasid]

1 hour ago, phillwhitewasmad said:

With yesterday's announcement regarding more teams looking to join the national league it will be interesting to see what the points limit will be . Also will the upper level championship average be raised as currently will block several riders from competing. Will they stop riders doing all three leagues personally think anyone riding premier league shouldn't be in national league.

I honestly don't think they look that far ahead. Max Perry for example wouldn't have had a team if they didn't change the rules after most teams were complete. This shouldn't need to happen if they planned ahead better!

[ouch]

On 11/15/2024 at 9:56 AM, szkocjasid said:

Totally agree, if you're good enough to be racing against Doyle, Sayfutdinov, Bewley etc surely you're too good to compete against Mark Parker & Jack Shimelt etc al

Apart from RS’s. They are in the top division not because they are good enough to be racing Doyle etc but because they are RS’s. 

[szkocjasid]

1 hour ago, ouch said:

Apart from RS’s. They are in the top division not because they are good enough to be racing Doyle etc but because they are RS’s. 

I'd suggest RS picks should be riders "too good" for the NDL. But still not ready to step up to the Prem fully.

 

[Diamonds85]

So when's the NDL 'agm' or whatever they have going to be? When are we going to find out which teams are competing?

[Triple.H.]

IMO every team should be aiming to run 2nd half races for junior riders, let riders book in advance so they know they're guaranteed 2-3 rides. Obviously major incidents or bad weather will impact on the time available to run the races, but if meetings started at the advertised time, no delayed start due to queues outside, unless a major RTA in the area. If everyone knows the parade is 7:15 and first race 7:30 its upto them to get into the stadium ontime. Barring major incidents or poor weather it should be easy to get 15 races done and dusted in 90 minutes, leaving a fair bit of time for some junior races.

[phillwhitewasmad]

13 hours ago, Diamonds85 said:

So when's the NDL 'agm' or whatever they have going to be? When are we going to find out which teams are competing?

They already said all teams returning 

[Diamonds85]

1 hour ago, phillwhitewasmad said:

They already said all teams returning 

I've also read that more teams will be joining? Brilliant that all teams are returning though

[edmon]

Hinted at Edinburgh Video Night on Friday the there may be two divisions for National League in 2025.

[Diamonds85]

41 minutes ago, edmon said:

Hinted at Edinburgh Video Night on Friday the there may be two divisions for National League in 2025.

Must be a fair few teams joining then if there's going to be enough for 2 divisions? There has to be at least 10 (from existing and new) for something like that to work surely

[Fortythirtyeight]

1 hour ago, Diamonds85 said:

Must be a fair few teams joining then if there's going to be enough for 2 divisions? There has to be at least 10 (from existing and new) for something like that to work surely

North-South divide ?

Edinburgh, Workington?, Redcar, Belle Vue, Sheffthorpe 

Leicester,Oxford, Kings Lynn?, Iwade? plus?

[Diamonds85]

43 minutes ago, Fortythirtyeight said:

North-South divide ?

Edinburgh, Workington?, Redcar, Belle Vue, Sheffthorpe 

Leicester,Oxford, Kings Lynn?, Iwade? plus?

I'd love to see Glasgow put a NL team out.

Edinburgh, Glasgow, Workington, Redcar, Belle Vue

Leicester, Oxford, Kent, Sheffthorpe, Mildenhall? (Not sure on the Mildenhall situation)

Never going to happen, I just don't understand where all the teams are going to appear from to create 2 divisions. Unless Oxford put 3 or 4 NL teams out 😁

[phillwhitewasmad]

17 minutes ago, Diamonds85 said:

I'd love to see Glasgow put a NL team out.

Edinburgh, Glasgow, Workington, Redcar, Belle Vue

Leicester, Oxford, Kent, Sheffthorpe, Mildenhall? (Not sure on the Mildenhall situation)

Never going to happen, I just don't understand where all the teams are going to appear from to create 2 divisions. Unless Oxford put 3 or 4 NL teams out 😁

That's not a bad shout on Oxford 

[Mr Blobby]

5 hours ago, Diamonds85 said:

Must be a fair few teams joining then if there's going to be enough for 2 divisions? There has to be at least 10 (from existing and new) for something like that to work surely

Think riders can ride for south and north teams was a suggestion.

[HGould]

The suggestion I have heard from an aspiring rider (now 15 years old riders parent) has a slightly different take on the rumours above.

That is that the existing Clubs are happy with the size and structure and a few of them don't want nor can see viability in extra Fixtures above the current size.

To facilitate the other existing clubs that want to join or rejoin (presunmably to fill some gaps in CL especially fixtures) and any new Clubs will have their own League run on the same agreed format with 6 man teams.

That though will be a "win" for Riders as they can ride in the existing League and the new League, so potentially doubling opportunities to race. There will be no cross-over add on competitions though between the existing a new League.

It will be interesting to see if this idea, or a more anticipated geographical structure sees the light of day.

 

[Fortythirtyeight]

37 minutes ago, HGould said:

The suggestion I have heard from an aspiring rider (now 15 years old riders parent) has a slightly different take on the rumours above.

That is that the existing Clubs are happy with the size and structure and a few of them don't want nor can see viability in extra Fixtures above the current size.

To facilitate the other existing clubs that want to join or rejoin (presunmably to fill some gaps in CL especially fixtures) and any new Clubs will have their own League run on the same agreed format with 6 man teams.

That though will be a "win" for Riders as they can ride in the existing League and the new League, so potentially doubling opportunities to race. There will be no cross-over add on competitions though between the existing a new League.

It will be interesting to see if this idea, or a more anticipated geographical structure sees the light of day.

 

If thats the case, it’s typical speedway, a mess of an idea !
How can you have two ‘leagues’ running with different team sizes and riders competing in both ? Doubling up is what has caused 80% of the issues in British speedway as it is . Sounds like a series of ‘Amateur challenge matches’ where anyone can enter.

[szkocjasid]

I can see where this idea has come from, clubs happy with 5 or 6 home matches, but riders wanting more than 10/12 fixtures.

Would it be better to run as joint teams like Scunthorpe & Sheffield did? That way if a stand-alone team wants to enter (Eastbourne at Iwade) they can get a full season of racing?