40-38 Posted September 14 Report Share Posted September 14 9 minutes ago, mikebv said: Could be a great race track if they just put some more grip into it... When it rains it often delivers some very good racing.. Racers will go out to find the grip, and those less capable will stay on the slick... Seems quite patchy. Riders are going out to try and find and then going backwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomhaines Posted September 14 Report Share Posted September 14 Will someone please tell Kelvin that Lebedevs is NOT from Riga! Such an unprofessional commentator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Clemens Posted September 14 Report Share Posted September 14 Just now, tomhaines said: Will someone please tell Kelvin that Lebedevs is NOT from Riga! Such an unprofessional commentator I am just hanging around to see if he has an orgasm if and when BZ wins his fifth!!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted September 14 Report Share Posted September 14 Was that race world title no5 for zmarzlik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted September 14 Report Share Posted September 14 A tremendous rider .. But, let's be honest.. Riding in an era of relative mediocrity based on previous eras.... A perfect storm... The Russians the only ones who could taint his legacy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockster Posted September 14 Report Share Posted September 14 2 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Was that race world title no5 for zmarzlik It's only a matter of time. He's the best, but still soured with no Sayfutdinov and Laguta 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted September 14 Report Share Posted September 14 Just now, Shockster said: It's only a matter of time. He's the best, but still soured with no Sayfutdinov and Laguta There doesn't seem to be that "win at all costs" mentality that Trick, Crump, Gollob and Pedersen in particular ran with... Just one generation of riders ago.. Five or six riders went to the tapes at the start of the GP"s each year with a chance of winning.. Now there is one, without Laguta and Emil.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted September 14 Report Share Posted September 14 23 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: On his day was a fairly quick rider but his EFs were Bizzare, he would just stop half way through a race and come back in pits and speak to his dad for a bit and then go out and win his next ride without finding a fault in his bike? I can remember trying to speak to him about an EF and he just said “I’ve sorted it “ and sure enough he would do four laps, it was always a worry to put him in a last heat decider as you never knew if a EF was mysteriously going to occur, he stopped in so many races, I alway thought he wasn’t quite right in his head, maybe that’s a bit of a harsh thing to say but he wasn’t having bike issues when he stopped Pretty much the way I saw it. He would be cruising - then stop. And act like nothing happened... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 14 Report Share Posted September 14 Link has dropped any more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjcone44 Posted September 14 Report Share Posted September 14 🥶 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Clemens Posted September 14 Report Share Posted September 14 (edited) 9 minutes ago, mikebv said: There doesn't seem to be that "win at all costs" mentality that Trick, Crump, Gollob and Pedersen in particular ran with... Just one generation of riders ago.. Five or six riders went to the tapes at the start of the GP"s each year with a chance of winning.. Now there is one, without Laguta and Emil.. I have said it before and I will say it here. More than once I have thought that most riders are happy to let BZ get on with it and that they are content to follow in his train. In other words if is seen to make the supreme effort then people might not notice if we don't. And just after I wrote the above Chris Louis almost said as much with 'it looks as if Freddie has thrown the towel in'. Precisely my point. Edited September 14 by Mr. Clemens 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted September 14 Report Share Posted September 14 4 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Link has dropped any more? Tried 'em both. One suspended, and the other, audio only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted September 14 Report Share Posted September 14 4 minutes ago, Mr. Clemens said: I have said it before and I will say it here. More than once I have thought that most riders are happy to let BZ get on with it and that they are content to follow in his train. In other words if is seen to make the supreme effort then people might not notice if we don't. And just after I wrote the above Chris Louis almost said as much with 'it looks as if Freddie has thrown the towel in'. Precisely my point. Lads now earn "hundreds of thousands" in Poland.. Maybe "self preservation" is now a larger priority than putting everything on the line to win a World Title? You win one World Title you earn "x".. You ride ten years at the top in Poland and earn many, many times more.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAST GATER Posted September 14 Report Share Posted September 14 5 minutes ago, mikebv said: Lads now earn "hundreds of thousands" in Poland.. Maybe "self preservation" is now a larger priority than putting everything on the line to win a World Title? You win one World Title you earn "x".. You ride ten years at the top in Poland and earn many, many times more.. Bart is doing both as I see it ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted September 14 Report Share Posted September 14 4 minutes ago, mikebv said: Lads now earn "hundreds of thousands" in Poland.. Maybe "self preservation" is now a larger priority than putting everything on the line to win a World Title? You win one World Title you earn "x".. You ride ten years at the top in Poland and earn many, many times more.. But will anybody remember Piotr protasiewicz in years to come ? Money isn’t everything 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Clemens Posted September 14 Report Share Posted September 14 6 minutes ago, mikebv said: Lads now earn "hundreds of thousands" in Poland.. Maybe "self preservation" is now a larger priority than putting everything on the line to win a World Title? You win one World Title you earn "x".. You ride ten years at the top in Poland and earn many, many times more.. It always all comes down to money. I do believe that most riders are not really interested in being WC. Even Tatum, commenting on Freddie having a bad night, and Robert Lambert being the only one 'who can save the meeting', seems to be beginning to realise that if things don't change the GPs will be pointless. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted September 14 Report Share Posted September 14 (edited) Why does this production company keep allowing drone flyover to come into view just as the tapes rise with every single race. Drone shots add nothing to the race coverage and certainly shouldn’t keep coming into camera shot. Every GP, every race. Edited September 14 by TheReturn 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted September 14 Report Share Posted September 14 (edited) 13 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: But will anybody remember Piotr protasiewicz in years to come ? Money isn’t everything To a certain extent I do agree Dean.. However . In such a tiny global sport, if I could guarantee circa £500k a year (and maybe more), riding in Poland, Sweden and the UK, for ten years or more, and never see my name as the World Champ... I am not sure I would be fussed . Edit.. If Dan became World Champ, he would arrive at the NSS on a Monday night with barely 1800 there to celebrate with him... If Robert became World Champ, he wouldn't even have a UK track to celebrate at.. Edited September 14 by mikebv 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted September 14 Report Share Posted September 14 1 minute ago, mikebv said: To a certain extent I do agree Dean.. However . In such a tiny global sport, if I could guarantee circa £500k a year (and maybe more), riding in Poland, Sweden and the UK, for ten years or more, and never see my name as the World Champ... I am not sure I would be fussed . Agree,financial security for the family first imo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted September 14 Report Share Posted September 14 Kelvin's maths does it again! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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