Sir Sidney Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 Just go back to who ever finishes top of the league is the League Champions and cut all this nonsense of play offs out. Play offs are simply a commercial decision in any event. This is just an extension of that. Presumably any one of the 4 clubs could have said they were not in agreement and the rules should be followed, but they didn't 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 There's a statement (dated tomorrow) on the SCB website saying that the cut off date for the conclusion off fixtures has been extended: https://www.scbgb.co.uk/news.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 11 minutes ago, iainb said: There's a statement (dated tomorrow) on the SCB website saying that the cut off date for the conclusion off fixtures has been extended: https://www.scbgb.co.uk/news.php So all we need now is for all 4 to agree and the regulations mean nothing...... Farcical,corrupt shambles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishersGate Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 2 hours ago, Sir Sidney said: Just go back to who ever finishes top of the league is the League Champions and cut all this nonsense of play offs out. Play offs are simply a commercial decision in any event. This is just an extension of that. Presumably any one of the 4 clubs could have said they were not in agreement and the rules should be followed, but they didn't I much prefer the of whoever finishes top wins the league, it's a better representation of who is the best team this season. But I do also like the excitement of the play offs. Maybe the knockout cup could be redesigned so there is a play off system in place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 1 hour ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: So all we need now is for all 4 to agree and the regulations mean nothing...... Farcical,corrupt shambles And they wonder why no one takes it seriously,,and people stop going. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 3 minutes ago, Baldyman said: And they wonder why no one takes it seriously,,and people stop going. Is that copy and paste for almost EVERY thread. 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 1 minute ago, mikebv said: Is that copy and paste for almost EVERY thread. 😁 Sure is. So glad I stopped adding a penny to this farce. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 9 minutes ago, mikebv said: Is that copy and paste for almost EVERY thread. 😁 This one particularly stinks to me, it has left a very sour taste in my mouth, it's not like it's a mickey mouse Jubilee Trophy or BSN Series... this is the premier speedway competition in this country, I don't know why I'm surprised really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 5 hours ago, Sir Sidney said: Just go back to who ever finishes top of the league is the League Champions and cut all this nonsense of play offs out. Play offs are simply a commercial decision in any event. This is just an extension of that. Presumably any one of the 4 clubs could have said they were not in agreement and the rules should be followed, but they didn't I think there's every chance if 3 of the 4 clubs agreed to it, they would announce it was a majority decision. But I just can't get over the fact that rules are meaningless, if clubs can just agree to not use them? What of Ipswich agreed to Sheffield using Harris if Sheffield agreed to them using Lambert, if they both agreed would that be allowed? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 (edited) 23 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: I think there's every chance if 3 of the 4 clubs agreed to it, they would announce it was a majority decision. But I just can't get over the fact that rules are meaningless, if clubs can just agree to not use them? What of Ipswich agreed to Sheffield using Harris if Sheffield agreed to them using Lambert, if they both agreed would that be allowed? You only have to look at who stands to commercially gain to see that this scam has been cooked up by Sheffield & Belle Vue. Nobody stands to gain commercially riding against Ippo with their current team (sorry Ippo fans), why Ippo and Leicester have been complicit in this beats me, they've hidden behind a cloak of collective responsibility and pushed Phil Morris to the front to act as their messenger puppet. 4 back to back Belle Vue/Sheffield meetings will bring a bigger crowd than 4 back to back Ippo/Sheffield meetings. If they don't want to be riding against the same clubs at the end of the year they should have a bigger league or better still do away with the pay offs altogether. Edited August 31 by iainb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 6 hours ago, iainb said: It'll never happen, but all fans should boycott the pay offs! Yep, something needs to show them they can't keep taking the public for granted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youhave2minutes Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 6 hours ago, Sir Sidney said: Just go back to who ever finishes top of the league is the League Champions and cut all this nonsense of play offs out. Play offs are simply a commercial decision in any event. This is just an extension of that. Presumably any one of the 4 clubs could have said they were not in agreement and the rules should be followed, but they didn't It’s another money making exercise and while they attract good crowds it will remain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 (edited) 45 minutes ago, SUPERACE said: Yep, something needs to show them they can't keep taking the public for granted. Thing is,, most die hard fans will turn up whatever and put up with any old sxhitt Edited August 31 by Baldyman 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveWayne Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 1 hour ago, iainb said: You only have to look at who stands to commercially gain to see that this scam has been cooked up by Sheffield & Belle Vue. Nobody stands to gain commercially riding against Ippo with their current team (sorry Ippo fans), why Ippo and Leicester have been complicit in this beats me, they've hidden behind a cloak of collective responsibility and pushed Phil Morris to the front to act as their messenger puppet. 4 back to back Belle Vue/Sheffield meetings will bring a bigger crowd than 4 back to back Ippo/Sheffield meetings. If they don't want to be riding against the same clubs at the end of the year they should have a bigger league or better still do away with the pay offs altogether. So when Leicester have beaten Kings Lynn twice this coming week and officially finished top of the table, will it still be a scam or will it then be acceptable even though the semis are exactly the same ? How will there be 4 back to back Belle Vue/Sheffield meetings ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 (edited) 26 minutes ago, DaveWayne said: So when Leicester have beaten Kings Lynn twice this coming week and officially finished top of the table, will it still be a scam or will it then be acceptable even though the semis are exactly the same ? How will there be 4 back to back Belle Vue/Sheffield meetings ? It will still be a scam, it doesn't matter about either King's Lynn match now does it? It's all been rigged, I watch sport to see it decided through competition not rigged on a zoom call somewhere. We've all been scammed. Belle Vue vs Sheffield bank Holiday Monday, Sheffield vs Belle Vue Bank Holiday Monday and now the rigged pay off semis Edited August 31 by iainb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamish McRaker Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 A panel of experts should be convened, to decide the results of any league matches not staged beyond the cut off date in any season. The matches could still be staged but the panel's decisions would be final as far as deciding the league table and the playoff matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 4 minutes ago, Hamish McRaker said: A panel of experts should be convened, to decide the results of any league matches not staged beyond the cut off date in any season. The matches could still be staged but the panel's decisions would be final as far as deciding the league table and the playoff matches. Like a Fools Panel? The cut off has already been extended by 7 days... for absolutely no reason at all it turns out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveWayne Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 33 minutes ago, iainb said: It will still be a scam, it doesn't matter about either King's Lynn match now does it? It's all been rigged, I watch sport to see it decided through competition not rigged on a zoom call somewhere. We've all been scammed. Belle Vue vs Sheffield bank Holiday Monday, Sheffield vs Belle Vue Bank Holiday Monday and now the rigged pay off semis Sheffield have ridden away at Kings Lynn since BH Monday, and have the KO cup final matches next week, so not exactly back to back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveWayne Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 21 minutes ago, Hamish McRaker said: A panel of experts should be convened, to decide the results of any league matches not staged beyond the cut off date in any season. The matches could still be staged but the panel's decisions would be final as far as deciding the league table and the playoff matches. Isn't that what they have done ? 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 (edited) 3 hours ago, iainb said: You only have to look at who stands to commercially gain to see that this scam has been cooked up by Sheffield & Belle Vue. Nobody stands to gain commercially riding against Ippo with their current team (sorry Ippo fans), why Ippo and Leicester have been complicit in this beats me, they've hidden behind a cloak of collective responsibility and pushed Phil Morris to the front to act as their messenger puppet. 4 back to back Belle Vue/Sheffield meetings will bring a bigger crowd than 4 back to back Ippo/Sheffield meetings. If they don't want to be riding against the same clubs at the end of the year they should have a bigger league or better still do away with the pay offs altogether. Nobody stands to gain from riding against Ipswich? Are you mad? They stand to gain a qualification to the grand final. That brings in the best crowd of the year domestically. I’m a Belle Vue fan and even I know we’re not going past the semis. We will gain nothing but had we ridden against Ipswich and Leicester we would have stood a better chance of making the final. If you think 1 semi v Sheffield is financially better than a semi and a final then you’d be well placed to join the current think tank that’s handling the financial affairs of UK speedway. Bates however is benefiting greatly for this is where this came from. Edited August 31 by ouch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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