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Ipswich vs Sheffield 19/8/24


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19 minutes ago, AceBelle said:

polish play/offs start this w/end 1/4 finals 6 teams and finish on 29th sept so running same time as ours !!

Don’t worry the playoffs here will be in October when it will probably be raining and snowing lol

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1 hour ago, TTT said:

I see it as this.

If BV finish top they'll pick Ipswich because they know Ipswich cant ride the NSS to a point where they can build a massive lead against a patched up team that'll run with 2 or 3 guests.

If Sheffield finish top they'll pick Leicester because the Holder brothers still won't want to ride Foxhall again and they won't want to take on BV in the SF knowing how hot the BV riders are around the NSS.

1st against 4th, no choice

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44 minutes ago, tellboy said:

Blimey i thought everything was meant to be good about Poland.So a loser can win the play offs. 

Yep, a team can finish 6th out of 8, lose on the play-offs quarter finals and still win the league.

Very unlikely, but ridiculous that it's a possibility.

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1 hour ago, AceBelle said:

they have just said nicholls guesting thursday !!

Why is Nicholls not guesting for Adam and the Witches management getting a real heat leader as a guest for Emil/Jason? Or try something different and get 3 guests (Nicholls / Lindgren / Brennan)

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1 hour ago, TTT said:

Apologies, I didn't know the rules have been changed.

I assumed whoever finishes top gets to pick who they want in the SF.

That changed it a few years back, I think Wolves & Peterborough, who were 1st & 2nd agreed to meet each other in the play-offs, due to the dates available (from memory). This led to the final league clash between these two teams, to decide who finished 1st or 2nd, being completely pointless as they had already picked each other.

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1 hour ago, TTT said:

One too many injuries at the wrong time.

Ipswich are basically done for when it comes to the Prem title this year as they'll lose heavily at Belle Vue in the SF.

 

1 hour ago, AceBelle said:

you could well finish 4th and get sheffield ??

Could finish 2nd & meet Leicester?

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1 hour ago, Dornier said:

Wasn't expecting the Tigers to win this especially when they were missing Dan and running RR for Woffy 

You are on a wind up surely 

It’s not just Ipswich top 2 missing it’s the best 2 riders in the whole league totally irreplaceable 

R/R for Ipswich scored 5 and Bewley for Emil scored 10 from 6 and Troy got 6 from 5 replacing Ellis….. that’s 21 points when you would expect Doyle Emil and Ellis to get a minimum of 3 and a win for Ipswich 

Also why did we do what the holder brothers wanted and bladed the track …. They can’t ride tricky tracks and we slickened it off for them 

Must give credit to Simon stead as after the meeting we stood by the pits and my daughter was holding my 6 week old granddaughter and he came up talked to the baby asked lots of questions and chatted for 5 minutes when he clearly knew we was Ipswich fans … much respect to him 

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7 hours ago, szkocjasid said:

Yep, a team can finish 6th out of 8, lose on the play-offs quarter finals and still win the league.

Very unlikely, but ridiculous that it's a possibility.

And people still moan about 4 out of 7 teams going into the play offs here.Thats probably the only thing we do better than the Poles,less teams into the play offs and no lucky loser.

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as expected a easy win for Tigers. Any team losing their top three will more often than not get beat, no matter who your guests are, Batchelor was a poor choice of guest from the get go.

Thought the presentation on Eurosport was very poor, in general i enjoy their coverage of it, still don't see what Abbie brings to the show, having someone in the pits interviewing riders needs someone with a rapport with them, ideally a rider or retired rider, currently with Abbie there is no banter, there is no meaningful interviews, no real insight as to what goes on in the pits, Scott Nicholls should be doing what she does.

 

 

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Last night showed, in my opinion, how much Emil was carrying the team whilst Doyle is out. I said before that we will now go on a losing streak until Birmingham when he isn’t in the team. Missing the top two riders in the league if not in all of speedway. No rider can cover for them. Emil is the only person who is capable of covering Doyle. Maybe it’s just me but that special sparkle about foxhall isn’t there without Emil and Doyle, heat 13/15 were so exciting.

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After all the pile on over the Sheffield track are we going to discuss the joke that was served up last night? Or is Sheffield only track that’s allowed to be deemed dangerous? Both home and away riders couldn’t turn bike, riders falling through bends. Nicholls almost embarrassed to have to explain what was happening with the track on Eurosport 

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25 minutes ago, Shano101 said:

Last night showed, in my opinion, how much Emil was carrying the team whilst Doyle is out. I said before that we will now go on a losing streak until Birmingham when he isn’t in the team. Missing the top two riders in the league if not in all of speedway. No rider can cover for them. Emil is the only person who is capable of covering Doyle. Maybe it’s just me but that special sparkle about foxhall isn’t there without Emil and Doyle, heat 13/15 were so exciting.

It isn’t just you, it’s killed the atmosphere and enthusiasm stone dead. It’s got to the rest of the team now too as alluded to by King last night. Him, Rew and Thompson are now riding a level below what we’ve seen previously this season, it’s drained everybody. Hawkins has made a rallying cry on the official website as you’d expect him to do, they still need to try and get people through the door, but the truth is it’s become a chore to go. Just have to muddle through these next few weeks, and then go again next year.

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25 minutes ago, Manifesto said:

After all the pile on over the Sheffield track are we going to discuss the joke that was served up last night? Or is Sheffield only track that’s allowed to be deemed dangerous? Both home and away riders couldn’t turn bike, riders falling through bends. Nicholls almost embarrassed to have to explain what was happening with the track on Eurosport 

The only reason you miss Emil and Doyle is that they can trap,our top four riders were trapping all night and the races as a whole were done after the second bend but being brutally honest I couldn't part with my hard earned every week to witness that,yes it was a very comfortable win for us in the end but come on you can't call that which was served up entertaining..far from it.

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40 minutes ago, Shano101 said:

Last night showed, in my opinion, how much Emil was carrying the team whilst Doyle is out. I said before that we will now go on a losing streak until Birmingham when he isn’t in the team. Missing the top two riders in the league if not in all of speedway. No rider can cover for them. Emil is the only person who is capable of covering Doyle. Maybe it’s just me but that special sparkle about foxhall isn’t there without Emil and Doyle, heat 13/15 were so exciting.

Hasn’t been the same since Doyle was out let alone Emil. Doyle has by far the best home average of any rider in the league the last couple of seasons. Foxhall is his fortress and he’s a joy to watch especially when he misses the gate. Nicholls has done ok covering, but you’re replacing Doyle’s 13’s/14’s/15’s at Ipswich with Nicholls’ 8’s 9’s and 10’s. That change alone is a 10 point swing in team scores on occasions. I’d argue the title aspirations ended back in May! When you build like Ipswich have you just can’t lose either let alone both of your top two because they’re irreplaceable. 

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7 minutes ago, Aries said:

Hasn’t been the same since Doyle was out let alone Emil. Doyle has by far the best home average of any rider in the league the last couple of seasons. Foxhall is his fortress and he’s a joy to watch especially when he misses the gate. Nicholls has done ok covering, but you’re replacing Doyle’s 13’s/14’s/15’s at Ipswich with Nicholls’ 8’s 9’s and 10’s. That change alone is a 10 point swing in team scores on occasions. I’d argue the title aspirations ended back in May! When you build like Ipswich have you just can’t lose either let alone both of your top two because they’re irreplaceable. 

https://britishspeedway.co.uk/2023-rider-statistics/

He’s irreplaceable at home. 

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