scaramanga Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 6 hours ago, Pinny said: Its all self inflicted . for instance, someone going out and buying and trying heroin for the first time leading to addiction has nobody to blame but themselves. Why should anybody feel sorry for them? Loads of people go through trauma in life, most dont turn to booze or drugs. i didn't hear anybody jumping to Darcy Wards defence when he turned up over the limit at a GP. Or is it different because he hadn't claimed he had a mental illness? If cook has a genuine mental illness then he should not even be holding a license in the first place. He would be a danger to others on track. regarding the Google point I made, well google his name and look at one of the first things to come up. there is a big list of speedway riders with issues some are open about it others are not its not that long ago danny ayres took his own life lets hope craig finds a different way for his familys sake 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 1 minute ago, Mr Blobby said: Yeah it’s fair to say people don’t know a lot and if they did wouldn’t be as harsh on them as they have. The only thing we do know is that the day before Leicester's press and practice his father informed the club that he wasn't ready to ride Speedway. I think the clubs he was contracted to ride for, and their fans, deserve some kind of explanation, even if it's just a "personal reasons" statement and in Bewick's case some kind of acknowledgement of the events at Leicester... it's not too much to ask from a professional sportsman and or club. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 2 hours ago, scaramanga said: there is a big list of speedway riders with issues some are open about it others are not its not that long ago danny ayres took his own life lets hope craig finds a different way for his familys sake I would expand that bracket to the general population for the record (1st paragraph). A wise man once said to me "you never know what is going on under a riders helmet". I agree I hope Craig can sort himself out. Why Berwick signed him? Pass! Why he agreed to sign for Berwick? Pass! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 12 hours ago, Jaizer said: Tbh just embarrassing yourself now Why, because you think people should feel sorry for addicts? You don't hear people defending junkies on the street who are hooked on smack and crack and god knows what else. When they break into someones house or car or mug someone on the street. People want them slung in the slammer and rightly so as its where they belong. Addiction being ruled as an illness or mental illness is absolutely ridiculous. If Cook has a genuine mental illness and is traumatized by something then of course I would feel bad for what I have said regarding him. The rumors are (not for the first time) he has a massive booze problem and therefore is unable to show for work because of it. If that is false then I will be the first to apologize. I have sat through hours and hours of toolbox talks in Australia on mental health and have come face to face with people who have suffered massive family tragedy and come out the other side without resorting to drugs or booze (or gambling). I will add that the fact gambling is classed as a mental illness is absolutely pathetic. If your thick enough to gamble away money needed to support yourself or family then that is your decision and yours only. Nothing ever comes good out of gambling that's why casino and bookie owners are so rich. I am the first to admit I am outspoken at times but some of the reactions on here is exactly why the world is how it is today. Snowflakes and people tip toeing about in case they offend someone. Craig Cook has let both Leicester and Berwick down at the drop of a hat right before the season starts and has still not came out and explained why. As I said before, why does he hold a current license if he has genuine mental health problems? People can say its a disgusting comment all they want, its still a very valid question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 14 hours ago, Catch Me If You Can said: Will Dayle Wood be at P and P Edinburgh Academy race Saturday night in National League Is he in the edinburgh team From the Northumberland Gazette 2 days ago: Dane Peter Kildemand is back on a bike after serving a nine-day concussion ban while countryman Bastian Borke is back riding after major knee and leg surgery over the winter. New signings Sam Hagon and Craig Cook will be familiarising themselves with the home side of Shielfield Park’s pits bay while Dayle Wood will be the busiest man of the day. The charismatic 30-year-old Australian will pose for the assembled media in his new R.E.D Bandits, powered by STS kevlars before heading north to Armadale where he will race for the Monarchs Academy in their opening National Development League fixture of the season against Middlesbrough Tigers. Interestingly it mentions Craig Cook will be there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupy Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 2 hours ago, Pinny said: Why, because you think people should feel sorry for addicts? You don't hear people defending junkies on the street who are hooked on smack and crack and god knows what else. When they break into someones house or car or mug someone on the street. People want them slung in the slammer and rightly so as its where they belong. Addiction being ruled as an illness or mental illness is absolutely ridiculous. If Cook has a genuine mental illness and is traumatized by something then of course I would feel bad for what I have said regarding him. The rumors are (not for the first time) he has a massive booze problem and therefore is unable to show for work because of it. If that is false then I will be the first to apologize. I have sat through hours and hours of toolbox talks in Australia on mental health and have come face to face with people who have suffered massive family tragedy and come out the other side without resorting to drugs or booze (or gambling). I will add that the fact gambling is classed as a mental illness is absolutely pathetic. If your thick enough to gamble away money needed to support yourself or family then that is your decision and yours only. Nothing ever comes good out of gambling that's why casino and bookie owners are so rich. I am the first to admit I am outspoken at times but some of the reactions on here is exactly why the world is how it is today. Snowflakes and people tip toeing about in case they offend someone. Craig Cook has let both Leicester and Berwick down at the drop of a hat right before the season starts and has still not came out and explained why. As I said before, why does he hold a current license if he has genuine mental health problems? People can say its a disgusting comment all they want, its still a very valid question. I Gamble and it is not everyone loses like people think.You have to STTFPS which most punters fail and not chase losses.My results are all about variance over a 6-9 month period where as 3months is form.I never play casino or one arm bandits as that is why they call them bandits lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 33 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: From the Northumberland Gazette 2 days ago: Dane Peter Kildemand is back on a bike after serving a nine-day concussion ban while countryman Bastian Borke is back riding after major knee and leg surgery over the winter. New signings Sam Hagon and Craig Cook will be familiarising themselves with the home side of Shielfield Park’s pits bay while Dayle Wood will be the busiest man of the day. The charismatic 30-year-old Australian will pose for the assembled media in his new R.E.D Bandits, powered by STS kevlars before heading north to Armadale where he will race for the Monarchs Academy in their opening National Development League fixture of the season against Middlesbrough Tigers. Interestingly it mentions Craig Cook will be there. "charismatic 30-year-old Australian" That's quite a claim! Don't forget that Cook was named to be in the CLPC and CLRC and the Leicester team until the day before P&P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 1 hour ago, soupy said: I Gamble and it is not everyone loses like people think.You have to STTFPS which most punters fail and not chase losses.My results are all about variance over a 6-9 month period where as 3months is form.I never play casino or one arm bandits as that is why they call them bandits lol. Course not mate but you never hear about anyone who gambles and wins and makes a profit as being a gambling addict do you, only the ones who lose then cry and moan and try claiming mental health on it when really its greed that gets them into it. I gamble a few times a year , this year on the two big horse races and a couple of times on the footy, and done well. Last year the complete opposite. Id never get drawn into being "addicted" to it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupy Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 1 hour ago, Pinny said: Course not mate but you never hear about anyone who gambles and wins and makes a profit as being a gambling addict do you, only the ones who lose then cry and moan and try claiming mental health on it when really its greed that gets them into it. I gamble a few times a year , this year on the two big horse races and a couple of times on the footy, and done well. Last year the complete opposite. Id never get drawn into being "addicted" to it though. Cool I bet most days but more like a hobby but if my system and form does not have a bet I will not bet on that day or any other day for the sake of it.I went to Doncaster races last month and never had a bet at the racecourse and happy to watch them parade and jump or run.How long have you been living down under now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackstaightBandit Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 I’m sure the Bandits promotion will make a statement when there is news to pass on and I’m confident they are working very hard behind the scenes to ensure we have the best 1-7 possible under trying circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 5 hours ago, Pinny said: Why, because you think people should feel sorry for addicts? You don't hear people defending junkies on the street who are hooked on smack and crack and god knows what else. When they break into someones house or car or mug someone on the street. People want them slung in the slammer and rightly so as its where they belong. Addiction being ruled as an illness or mental illness is absolutely ridiculous. If Cook has a genuine mental illness and is traumatized by something then of course I would feel bad for what I have said regarding him. The rumors are (not for the first time) he has a massive booze problem and therefore is unable to show for work because of it. If that is false then I will be the first to apologize. I have sat through hours and hours of toolbox talks in Australia on mental health and have come face to face with people who have suffered massive family tragedy and come out the other side without resorting to drugs or booze (or gambling). I will add that the fact gambling is classed as a mental illness is absolutely pathetic. If your thick enough to gamble away money needed to support yourself or family then that is your decision and yours only. Nothing ever comes good out of gambling that's why casino and bookie owners are so rich. I am the first to admit I am outspoken at times but some of the reactions on here is exactly why the world is how it is today. Snowflakes and people tip toeing about in case they offend someone. Craig Cook has let both Leicester and Berwick down at the drop of a hat right before the season starts and has still not came out and explained why. As I said before, why does he hold a current license if he has genuine mental health problems? People can say its a disgusting comment all they want, its still a very valid question. Aren't you just the voice of reason this country needs 🙄. You have an issue with Craig, that's up to you he's marmite always has been. But to come on preaching how holier than though you are because you'd never get dragged in..you have no idea if you would or not. You may think you won't but it can come to anyone. There's being outspoken and there's being a banger, in this occasion you would be the latter 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 The ignore button is useful . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 1 hour ago, BackstaightBandit said: I’m sure the Bandits promotion will make a statement when there is news to pass on and I’m confident they are working very hard behind the scenes to ensure we have the best 1-7 possible under trying circumstances. No news is good news 🤔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 1 hour ago, BackstaightBandit said: I’m sure the Bandits promotion will make a statement when there is news to pass on and I’m confident they are working very hard behind the scenes to ensure we have the best 1-7 possible under trying circumstances. No news is good news 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 2 hours ago, Jaizer said: Aren't you just the voice of reason this country needs 🙄. You have an issue with Craig, that's up to you he's marmite always has been. But to come on preaching how holier than though you are because you'd never get dragged in..you have no idea if you would or not. You may think you won't but it can come to anyone. There's being outspoken and there's being a banger, in this occasion you would be the latter You haven't answered my point about junkies robbing innocent people of their hard earned , do you sympathise with them? I have my views and you have yours. Time to move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 (edited) 3 hours ago, soupy said: Cool I bet most days but more like a hobby but if my system and form does not have a bet I will not bet on that day or any other day for the sake of it.I went to Doncaster races last month and never had a bet at the racecourse and happy to watch them parade and jump or run.How long have you been living down under now? . Edited April 9 by Pinny . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 3 hours ago, soupy said: Cool I bet most days but more like a hobby but if my system and form does not have a bet I will not bet on that day or any other day for the sake of it.I went to Doncaster races last month and never had a bet at the racecourse and happy to watch them parade and jump or run.How long have you been living down under now? 12 years , brilliant place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 2 hours ago, topaz325 said: The ignore button is useful . You can't go through life in your echo chamber ignoring people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 I think the problem with mental health nowadays is that its become in vogue to just just use mental health as a badge without having any issues whatsoever so its downplayed for people who actually do have real mental health problems. For example as a Manchester United fan ive heard fans saying recent results are affecting my mental health when there is absolutely nothing wrong with them, its become just a fashionable saying so for people like Cook who is suffering it can get downplayed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WookieboyDon Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 (edited) 9 hours ago, Pinny said: Why, because you think people should feel sorry for addicts? You don't hear people defending junkies on the street who are hooked on smack and crack and god knows what else. When they break into someones house or car or mug someone on the street. People want them slung in the slammer and rightly so as its where they belong. Addiction being ruled as an illness or mental illness is absolutely ridiculous. If Cook has a genuine mental illness and is traumatized by something then of course I would feel bad for what I have said regarding him. The rumors are (not for the first time) he has a massive booze problem and therefore is unable to show for work because of it. If that is false then I will be the first to apologize. I have sat through hours and hours of toolbox talks in Australia on mental health and have come face to face with people who have suffered massive family tragedy and come out the other side without resorting to drugs or booze (or gambling). I will add that the fact gambling is classed as a mental illness is absolutely pathetic. If your thick enough to gamble away money needed to support yourself or family then that is your decision and yours only. Nothing ever comes good out of gambling that's why casino and bookie owners are so rich. I am the first to admit I am outspoken at times but some of the reactions on here is exactly why the world is how it is today. Snowflakes and people tip toeing about in case they offend someone. Craig Cook has let both Leicester and Berwick down at the drop of a hat right before the season starts and has still not came out and explained why. As I said before, why does he hold a current license if he has genuine mental health problems? People can say its a disgusting comment all they want, its still a very valid question. You seem to be someone who has plenty to say on the matter but doesn't have a clue about mental illness, what it entails, varying forms of it and how it affects people differently. But most importantly, NOBODY knows what is really going on apart from Craig and his family. So maybe pipe the hell down and be patient for official news, because at the moment you are just coming across as heartless, and most of all, stupid. Edited April 9 by WookieboyDon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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