Normski Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 If Cookie was not to ride for Berwick we would have 8.60 to play with. But finding someone on or around that average is another thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 On 3/21/2025 at 12:51 PM, Normski said: If Cookie was not to ride for Berwick we would have 8.60 to play with. But finding someone on or around that average is another thing. Expand idiot me Norman, state the obvious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB723 Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 On 3/21/2025 at 12:29 PM, StevePark said: Depends whether Cook is deemed as withholding his services and gets a 28 day ban? Expand Since he hasn't actually ridden for Berwick yet would it not be similar to Covatti at Plymouth where they had to use a reduced average for guests even though he was legitimately out with an injury, would they even be allowed to run guests? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseq7 Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 On 3/21/2025 at 1:08 PM, MB723 said: Since he hasn't actually ridden for Berwick yet would it not be similar to Covatti at Plymouth where they had to use a reduced average for guests even though he was legitimately out with an injury, would they even be allowed to run guests? Expand As I mentioned a couple of posts back.... what's to stop Cook from telling the BSPA that he's not withholding his services, he's told Berwick to remove him from the team.... if that's what's going to happen of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 (edited) On 3/21/2025 at 1:12 PM, Joseq7 said: As I mentioned a couple of posts back.... what's to stop Cook from telling the BSPA that he's not withholding his services, he's told Berwick to remove him from the team.... if that's what's going to happen of course. Expand Isn't it pretty much the same thing if he has signed a contract? Palm Toft looks most likely. A quick google search shows he averaged 8.08 in 2024 (8.88 at home/7.23 away). Could do a lot worse than that unless there is something I have missed and thats why Berwick fans dont want him? Certainly stronger than going down the road of a newcomer with an assessed average. Edited March 21 by Pinny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 On 3/21/2025 at 1:33 PM, Pinny said: Isn't it pretty much the same thing if he has signed a contract? Palm Toft looks most likely. A quick google search shows he averaged 8.08 in 2024 (8.88 at home/7.23 away). Could do a lot worse than that unless there is something I have missed and thats why Berwick fans dont want him? Certainly stronger than going down the road of a newcomer with an assessed average. Expand Not a great gater in my experience and never scored terribly well at Berwick. Though Thomas Jorgenson was very good for the club (first time) after never impressing when visiting previously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noaksey Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 On 3/21/2025 at 12:22 PM, Joseq7 said: @IainB Interesting. Wouldn't rule it out. When does Morris' ban end? I'm no expert on the rules but wouldn't Berwick technically have to do the same as Poole and "officially" name a 7th rider? You can't start with guests can you. Expand No guest facility for a rider who hasn't ridden for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emilali Posted March 21 Author Report Share Posted March 21 On 3/21/2025 at 9:08 AM, IainB said: You would have thought that Berwick might have released some kind of statement surrounding Cook's availability 🤷♂️ Expand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emilali Posted March 21 Author Report Share Posted March 21 What about Keynan Rew? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 On 3/21/2025 at 1:42 PM, Robinh88 said: Not a great gater in my experience and never scored terribly well at Berwick. Though Thomas Jorgenson was very good for the club (first time) after never impressing when visiting previously. Expand Nobody out there really to replace him is there. Vissing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseq7 Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 On 3/21/2025 at 2:05 PM, noaksey said: No guest facility for a rider who hasn't ridden for you Expand I don't claim to be a font of knowledge but didn't Plymouth get a guest facility for Niko Cavati (sorry if that spelling is wrong) and he didn't start the season but was in their declared 1-7? He was "genuinely" injured and underestimated how long it would take him to recover IIRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseq7 Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 On 3/21/2025 at 1:33 PM, Pinny said: Isn't it pretty much the same thing if he has signed a contract? Palm Toft looks most likely. A quick google search shows he averaged 8.08 in 2024 (8.88 at home/7.23 away). Could do a lot worse than that unless there is something I have missed and thats why Berwick fans dont want him? Certainly stronger than going down the road of a newcomer with an assessed average. Expand I've no skin in this game, just a passing interest, but respectfully I don't agree that it's the same thing. I do see your argument but IMO there's a difference because the season hasn't started. If, hypothetically, Cook has quit speedway, I know I know again again, then he's not really withholding his services, he's not available at all to withdraw his services. It's an interesting conundrum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseq7 Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 On 3/21/2025 at 2:05 PM, noaksey said: No guest facility for a rider who hasn't ridden for you Expand Oh wait, sorry, did you mean they wouldn't get a guest for Morris? Apologies, I think that's what you meant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 On 3/21/2025 at 2:21 PM, Joseq7 said: I've no skin in this game, just a passing interest, but respectfully I don't agree that it's the same thing. I do see your argument but IMO there's a difference because the season hasn't started. If, hypothetically, Cook has quit speedway, I know I know again again, then he's not really withholding his services, he's not available at all to withdraw his services. It's an interesting conundrum. Expand Its a fair comment. It's out of the clubs control. I guess allowing guests would be a whole new issue entirely and would see clubs signing riders that have no intention to ride thus allowing guests. It really is baffling though that in 48 hours of their number one dropping out of Leicesters team this early, and with the same manager as them, that Berwick haven't released a statement giving some clarity over the situation. Has Cook just decided he wants CL racing only, has he quit both leagues, has he had a bender and sent a text in the heat of the moment and now regrets it? Who knows. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 On 3/21/2025 at 2:13 PM, Pinny said: Nobody out there really to replace him is there. Vissing? Expand As emilali says Keynan Rew might be a shout. Vissing? Not for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 On 3/21/2025 at 3:17 PM, Robinh88 said: As emilali says Keynan Rew might be a shout. Vissing? Not for me Expand No chance Rew as he rides in Poland. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 Berwick have still named Cookie as riding for them in the Pairs: https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=1281860183369261&set=a.213272360228054 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H20 Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 Thing is teams don't usually register there teams until quite late to the SCB incase of any changes. So wether he is withholding his services or not it's very unlikely Berwick would get any facility. Quite a few Workington fans were very disappointed when Workington decided not to sign him for 2025 but there were reasons behind that and this is showing one of the reasons why they opted to go without there 2024 captain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit59 Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 On 3/21/2025 at 5:15 PM, StevePark said: Berwick have still named Cookie as riding for them in the Pairs: https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=1281860183369261&set=a.213272360228054 Expand Naming him is one thing whether he rides is another Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 (edited) . Edited March 21 by Mr Blobby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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