Normski Posted December 12 Report Share Posted December 12 24 minutes ago, cheggie said: What website is this please? http://www.gbspeedway.com/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PersonalResponsibility Posted December 12 Report Share Posted December 12 40 minutes ago, Weeyin said: I wonder why he slumped so badly mid season? Was it bike or confidence issues? That's a generous definition of "mid season". Decent first meeting, decent last meeting, basically crap in between. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted December 12 Report Share Posted December 12 55 minutes ago, ragdoll64 said: Yeah, and that’s half of the problem with speedway these days….too expensive for youngsters to get into. Everything’s got to be top notch from day one…..equipment and glamour wise. Gone are the days of picking up an old secondhand machine, strapping it to the back of a car and trying to get second half rides around the country. No mechanics, sponsors or fancy vans in them days and more people were able to have a go. The problem is that its a results based business and if Rider A doesn't have the kit and Rider B does they will get picked even if A has more ability. Then its over to the promotors, even at NL the requirement is to arrive with 2 bikes of good standard therefore a van is required and it goes on. The sport should be easier and more accessible to get into but with track time limited and the weasel actively shutting down training schools/amateur events whats the point? Could anyone hand on heart say to parents of a child looking to go into a form of motorsport that speedway is the best option? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch Me If You Can Posted December 12 Report Share Posted December 12 (edited) 5 hours ago, Hamster00 said: Definitely confidence I would say, you look at the setup he has, sponsorship, three bikes etc etc and it all looked fantastic. He had an early season tumble in Poland and never seemed the same after that, was very cautious in first bend traffic and really looked a different rider from the one that turned up against Workington in the Border Trophy. The last few meetings of his season he definitely seemed to be getting back some of that confidence, it is just a shame as many have said that we persevered and game him the runway to work through it and he has repaid that faith by chasing a few more dollars. As disappointing as it is for us I don’t particularly blame him, we’ve all chased the money at one time or another, I just hope it works out for him as I can’t imagine the Glasgow management will have as much patience and it’s clear that the fan base expects nothing less than silverware this season either. You are spot on with Polish crash Some riders bounce back from falls sadly it seemed to knock his confidence completely Was a shadow of himself after a good start to season Berwick were loyal others would not have been Edited December 12 by Catch Me If You Can 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endeavour Posted December 12 Report Share Posted December 12 6 hours ago, Hamster00 said: Definitely confidence I would say, you look at the setup he has, sponsorship, three bikes etc etc and it all looked fantastic. He had an early season tumble in Poland and never seemed the same after that, was very cautious in first bend traffic and really looked a different rider from the one that turned up against Workington in the Border Trophy. The last few meetings of his season he definitely seemed to be getting back some of that confidence, it is just a shame as many have said that we persevered and game him the runway to work through it and he has repaid that faith by chasing a few more dollars. As disappointing as it is for us I don’t particularly blame him, we’ve all chased the money at one time or another, I just hope it works out for him as I can’t imagine the Glasgow management will have as much patience and it’s clear that the fan base expects nothing less than silverware this season either. It is frustrating for clubs who stick by a rider. They will walk if Glasgow and perhaps Poole come calling. It's a career for riders and they will go where the best offer is. Hard one to take for a good club like the Bandits. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyLeith Posted December 12 Report Share Posted December 12 3 hours ago, Endeavour said: It is frustrating for clubs who stick by a rider. They will walk if Glasgow and perhaps Poole come calling. It's a career for riders and they will go where the best offer is. Hard one to take for a good club like the Bandits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyLeith Posted December 12 Report Share Posted December 12 There’s a difference though. Poole have to make a profit or the Ford family doesn’t eat. Glasgow are virtually a loss making subsidiary of a multi million pound company. 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted December 12 Report Share Posted December 12 1 hour ago, SunnyLeith said: There’s a difference though. Poole have to make a profit or the Ford family doesn’t eat. Glasgow are virtually a loss making subsidiary of a multi million pound company. So your saying Poole speedway is the only business the Ford family are involved with I dont think so 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted December 13 Report Share Posted December 13 9 hours ago, scaramanga said: So your saying Poole speedway is the only business the Ford family are involved with I dont think so But it has to make a profit or at least wash its face. It had to be bailed once only which was when Poole went from Prem to Championship. That's why the Fords work so hard with sponsors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch Me If You Can Posted December 13 Report Share Posted December 13 15 hours ago, Catch Me If You Can said: You are spot on with Polish crash Some riders bounce back from falls sadly it seemed to knock his confidence completely Was a shadow of himself after a good start to season Berwick were loyal others would not have been Season passes out nice to see prices frozen but 11 scheduled home meetings ! Gaps all summer again What about an opening Wofkington one as last year again and maybe a youth championship round or a NL 7 man team challenge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit59 Posted December 13 Report Share Posted December 13 14 minutes ago, Catch Me If You Can said: Season passes out nice to see prices frozen but 11 scheduled home meetings ! Gaps all summer again What about an opening Wofkington one as last year again and maybe a youth championship round or a NL 7 man team challenge Better get used to having big gaps in the season never going to be like it used to be a weekly fix no wonder fans loose interest. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normski Posted December 13 Report Share Posted December 13 10 minutes ago, Bandit59 said: Better get used to having big gaps in the season never going to be like it used to be a weekly fix no wonder fans loose interest. Last season we had 7 blank Saturdays and finished League fixtures on August 10th, after starting on March 30th and having 6 meetings in first 7 weeks. Yet the powers that be reckon clubs can't do 2H 2A yes we were lucky weather wise but even so. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted December 13 Report Share Posted December 13 11 minutes ago, Bandit59 said: Better get used to having big gaps in the season never going to be like it used to be a weekly fix no wonder fans loose interest. Same old,like you say though fans will just lose interest.Hard to see attendances growing much.Must suit the Promotions though.The sport at Championship level is on a slippery slope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted December 13 Report Share Posted December 13 2 minutes ago, Normski said: Last season we had 7 blank Saturdays and finished League fixtures on August 10th, after starting on March 30th and having 6 meetings in first 7 weeks. Yet the powers that be reckon clubs can't do 2H 2A yes we were lucky weather wise but even so. We could easily do 2h 2a. Riders are dictating the sport in GB.Its not going to get any better soon. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheggie Posted December 13 Report Share Posted December 13 22 hours ago, Normski said: http://www.gbspeedway.com/ Thank You Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normski Posted December 13 Report Share Posted December 13 1 minute ago, cheggie said: Thank You Excellent website Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit59 Posted December 13 Report Share Posted December 13 44 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Same old,like you say though fans will just lose interest.Hard to see attendances growing much.Must suit the Promotions though.The sport at Championship level is on a slippery slope. Thank god for BSN 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted December 13 Report Share Posted December 13 6 hours ago, Normski said: Last season we had 7 blank Saturdays and finished League fixtures on August 10th, after starting on March 30th and having 6 meetings in first 7 weeks. Yet the powers that be reckon clubs can't do 2H 2A yes we were lucky weather wise but even so. 6 hours ago, Fromafar said: We could easily do 2h 2a. Riders are dictating the sport in GB.Its not going to get any better soon. Not just the riders, clubs don't want to race off their alternative race night. Redcar for example, mentioned racing 6 non-fridays would lose them money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted December 13 Report Share Posted December 13 1 hour ago, szkocjasid said: Not just the riders, clubs don't want to race off their alternative race night. Redcar for example, mentioned racing 6 non-fridays would lose them money. Agree wholeheartedly with the need to stay on a regular racenight. When Berwick went into Div 1, they had only 50% of their regular Saturday crowd turning up on off-nights (which were Fridays). This is fact, l have all the attendance figures in my possession. The years may have changed, and of course crowds are smaller nowadays -- but the proportional drop-off from a regular night will remain the same .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted December 13 Report Share Posted December 13 2 previous appearances from Killer at Berwick in 2010, scored 3 on his first visit, 9 on his second. He was a real prospect back then with an all action style. Progressed into the GP's where he seemed to inexplicably fall off a lot whenever other riders got near him. Then seemed to disappear from the scene internationally... has he been any good in recent years? On the face of it you think wow an ex-GP rider in the CL, there must be question marks over him after recent returnees to British Speedway and their struggles, I hope it works out for him, Berwick & Oxford. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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