szkocjasid Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 1 hour ago, szkocjasid said: Once again, don't understand why Sheffield are using r/r at 2. Means superstar number one & GP rider Holder takes his extra ride against a rising star. Feel it's a waste of a rider if his ability, would've used r/r at 3 or 4 personally. 11 minutes ago, spin king said: I disagree works at home. Heat 1; Howarth Heat 2; Pickering Heat 8; Holder (Jack) Heat 9: Holder (Chris) Brought us 9 points last week, and you I think it should bring us the same again. We'll agree to disagree then, but personally I'd never want to use my top rider in heat 8. For Leicester as soon as I saw Sheffield had r/r at 2, think I would've moved Lawson to 3 or 4 (put Becker at 2). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 (edited) Looking at Fricke's record around Owlerton it's a bit feast or famine, so far tonight it looks like it's another famine! Edited August 1 by iainb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 59 minutes ago, iainb said: Looking at Fricke's record around Owlerton it's a bit feast or famine, so far tonight it looks like it's another famine! Well, he certainly turned that around fair play to the lad. What on earth Steady was up to putting Picko in 15 is completely baffling though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullmax Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 Saw a post somewhere saying why don't people go to Speedway anymore. Look no further than tonight .45 - 45 away at Sheffield. What a great point that used to be . Absolutely ridiculous that the home team walk away from that meeting with an extra point. Pathetic isn't the word. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40-38 Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 Hard luck Lions. Still think the super heat is ridiculous for anything except the bonus point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 1 minute ago, Fullmax said: Saw a post somewhere saying why don't people go to Speedway anymore. Look no further than tonight .45 - 45 away at Sheffield. What a great point that used to be . Absolutely ridiculous that the home team walk away from that meeting with an extra point. Pathetic isn't the word. But if you had won the super heat,you would have walked away with an extra point.Should just leave it at a point each. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 2 minutes ago, 40-38 said: Hard luck Lions. Still think the super heat is ridiculous for anything except the bonus point. Only in a sport run by clowns would someone think it was a good idea... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullmax Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 (edited) 9 minutes ago, tellboy said: But if you had won the super heat,you would have walked away with an extra point.Should just leave it at a point each. Aggregate scores level in a KO Cup match then by all means have the extra heat. I'd go back to 2pts for a win, 1 point for a draw in all league matches. That's it no bonus points whatsoever. Keep it simple Edited August 1 by Fullmax 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjcone44 Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 3 hours ago, topaz325 said: I feel sorry for some of the posters on here . scientist have been doing tests on dolphins , and found them only 2nd to man in intelligence , putting women down to third place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40-38 Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 14 minutes ago, tellboy said: But if you had won the super heat,you would have walked away with an extra point.Should just leave it at a point each. What makes it even more bizarre is that it doesn't count towards the score. If you really want to have it as a thing why is the result 45-45? It should be 52-47 to Sheffield. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullmax Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 1 minute ago, 40-38 said: What makes it even more bizarre is that it doesn't count towards the score. If you really want to have it as a thing why is the result 45-45? It should be 52-47 to Sheffield. Whose idea was it not to have a draw and how long has this ridiculous rule been applied. I'm one of the target Speedway supporters who doesn't attend meetings anymore and how it's run nowadays that's not going to change anytime soon. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEITH M Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 1 hour ago, 40-38 said: What makes it even more bizarre is that it doesn't count towards the score. If you really want to have it as a thing why is the result 45-45? It should be 52-47 to Sheffield. But then you would be going around telling people “ I was at the speedway last night and Sheffield beat Leicester 52-47 but Leicester got a point for getting a draw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 Some good action last night and quite a comeback from the Lions, still can't get over Steady not picking Chris Holder for heat 15! There was some real harum-scarum stuff with riders seeming to have to go so wide to get any grip they'd often lose control, I don't know when Sheffield became like this. Lions may have snook this if Mr Cook had kept his Cookie Monster in his trousers ... but a draw seemed a fair result with Vuolas being and adequate replacement. On the drive in I saw a giant electric billboard advertising Sheffield Tigers, so kudos for that... Also, I don't really pay much attention to the heat sponsors when they're read out during a meeting but every time it registered with me last night the race was always in loving memory of somebody, it was like attending a memorial meeting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 31 minutes ago, iainb said: Some good action last night and quite a comeback from the Lions, still can't get over Steady not picking Chris Holder for heat 15! There was some real harum-scarum stuff with riders seeming to have to go so wide to get any grip they'd often lose control, I don't know when Sheffield became like this. Lions may have snook this if Mr Cook had kept his Cookie Monster in his trousers ... but a draw seemed a fair result with Vuolas being and adequate replacement. On the drive in I saw a giant electric billboard advertising Sheffield Tigers, so kudos for that... Also, I don't really pay much attention to the heat sponsors when they're read out during a meeting but every time it registered with me last night the race was always in loving memory of somebody, it was like attending a memorial meeting! I went to Sheffield with my, then, 19 year old lad, a couple of years ago and he mentioned how many races were "in memory" of someone. And then the next time at the NSS, with those thoughts in our minds, we picked up on the same... The demographic of the fanbase perfectly summed up I would suggest. And it shows the challlenge faced by promoters in replacing those sadly departed very loyal regulars... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 1 minute ago, mikebv said: I went to Sheffield with my, then, 19 year old lad, a couple of years ago and he mentioned how many races were "in memory" of someone. And then the next time at the NSS, with those thoughts in our minds, we picked up on the same... The demographic of the fanbase perfectly summed up I would suggest. And it shows the challlenge faced by promoters in replacing those sadly departed very loyal regulars... I know at Leicester we have a race in the memory of Roger Webster, who I think was quite a benefactor to the club and many young riders. not just at Leicester, I think the majority are for local businesses though, I'll pay closer attention in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 10 hours ago, Fullmax said: Whose idea was it not to have a draw and how long has this ridiculous rule been applied. I'm one of the target Speedway supporters who doesn't attend meetings anymore and how it's run nowadays that's not going to change anytime soon. Chris Louis brainwave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manifesto Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 Expected a close meeting before and Leicester were really up for it. Thought Jack Holder was unlucky to get pulled up for jumping start in heat 10 looked like a good gate from where I was stood on bend 4. Picko and Howarth very inconsistent as they have been most of season, reserves poor in all honesty Edwards should of held on for 3rd in heat 14 just don’t look like passing ever but seem to get passed with ease. Will be our Achilles heel come the play offs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Sidney Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 9 minutes ago, Manifesto said: Expected a close meeting before and Leicester were really up for it. Thought Jack Holder was unlucky to get pulled up for jumping start in heat 10 looked like a good gate from where I was stood on bend 4. Picko and Howarth very inconsistent as they have been most of season, reserves poor in all honesty Edwards should of held on for 3rd in heat 14 just don’t look like passing ever but seem to get passed with ease. Will be our Achilles heel come the play offs If a side picks a strong top 5 then inevitably number 6 is going to be weaker than other teams. It's a numbers game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 34 minutes ago, Sir Sidney said: 47 minutes ago, Manifesto said: Expected a close meeting before and Leicester were really up for it. Thought Jack Holder was unlucky to get pulled up for jumping start in heat 10 looked like a good gate from where I was stood on bend 4. Picko and Howarth very inconsistent as they have been most of season, reserves poor in all honesty Edwards should of held on for 3rd in heat 14 just don’t look like passing ever but seem to get passed with ease. Will be our Achilles heel come the play offs 36 minutes ago, Sir Sidney said: If a side picks a strong top 5 then inevitably number 6 is going to be weaker than other teams. It's a numbers game. Totally agree @Sir Sidney, Sheffield can't blame the reserves or be surprised when they get outscored, it had to be expected. Their team was built around the top 5 winning matches by scoring 40+ points leaving the reserves to only need to ride to their 3.00 averages. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 (edited) 12 hours ago, Fullmax said: Whose idea was it not to have a draw and how long has this ridiculous rule been applied. I'm one of the target Speedway supporters who doesn't attend meetings anymore and how it's run nowadays that's not going to change anytime soon. Genuinely, I had the opportunity last evening at home of explaining the Super heat to a friend given I was pleased with the Lions draw and he is not a follower of the sport. His summery of the situation was. "so after two matches Leicester won on aggregate over 30 races and overall received 4 points (home win, away draw & bonus point) Sheffield lost but received two points one for a home draw and one for winning an extra race to the original 30 races". He then added, "doesn't seem sensible to have an extra race for anything other than if the aggregate score had been level" Sometimes the promoters forget that one of the attractions of speedway is, its simplicity. 4 riders, 4 laps, 6 points up for grabs in each of 15 heats, the winner of the meeting being the team with the most points at the end after heat 15 Or a DRAW if both teams have scored equal points!! SIMPLES. Edited August 2 by 1 valve 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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