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Berwick v Edinburgh CL 27/07/24 7-00pm


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Enjoyable meeting. Thought Berwick deserved their win.
 

Leon an inspired guest - only reason we were still within touching distance near the end. 
 

In two different heats both Josh and Paco signalling to the referee something Barker was doing just before the race - anyone know what that was about? 

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Did the Monarchs miss a trick not putting Flint in as a tac sub in heat 11?

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47 minutes ago, Shadders said:

Did the Monarchs miss a trick not putting Flint in as a tac sub in heat 11?

Nope think the Monarchs got their tactics spot on. Replacing Thomsen in heat 11 means a reserve having to take another ride (in 14).

Had Flint won heat 11 = 2 points gained.

Had Coles been in 14, likely would've been behind Joe T = 4 points lost.

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2 hours ago, Macca said:

 

 

In two different heats both Josh and Paco signalling to the referee something Barker was doing just before the race - anyone know what that was about? 

They were saying Barker was heating his tyre before the race while leaning his bike over at the start 

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Thought we were very average tonight. Didn’t take advantage of a poor Berwick side. Coles the biggest let down tonight really poor. Kemp the saviour for the bandits. 
 

What’s the rules with regarding falling off then restating the bike to get going again once the race has been completed, never seen anyone do that before like Thompson did they normally push it round.  
 

Yeah both paco and Josh were unhappy with Barker heating up his rear tyre at the start, should’ve been excluded for it.

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24 minutes ago, Mr Blobby said:

Thought we were very average tonight. Didn’t take advantage of a poor Berwick side. Coles the biggest let down tonight really poor. Kemp the saviour for the bandits. 
 

What’s the rules with regarding falling off then restating the bike to get going again once the race has been completed, never seen anyone do that before like Thompson did they normally push it round.  
 

Yeah both paco and Josh were unhappy with Barker heating up his rear tyre at the start, should’ve been excluded for it.

You have 2 mins to push home from when the race finishes as long as you don’t have any outside help which is what he done  Thomson just pulled his bike out from under the fence started it again rode it home for the point seen it loads of times ,riders leaning there bikes over to warm tyres must be pretty common as every rider does it at the start but monarchs riders were saying they could see smoke coming from the back tyre  but being barkers lawn mowers like people were saying lol maybe  it was engine  oil burning out exhaust or the  primary  chain getting too much oil and burning off  like you see after most races 

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Good meeting, glad to see Hodder get his first win,and more like it from Drew, what a difference a night makes for Lewi, ignition problems, good from our two guests, Leon and Picko for Edinburgh as well, don't know what's happened to Coles this year very disappointing.We need all the riders to be on their A game next week can't afford any passengers against Oxford.

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10 hours ago, mac101 said:

They were saying Barker was heating his tyre before the race while leaning his bike over at the start 

Which he was both at the start of Hts 13 & 15.

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14 hours ago, mac101 said:

You have 2 mins to push home from when the race finishes as long as you don’t have any outside help which is what he done  Thomson just pulled his bike out from under the fence started it again rode it home for the point seen it loads of times ,riders leaning there bikes over to warm tyres must be pretty common as every rider does it at the start but monarchs riders were saying they could see smoke coming from the back tyre  but being barkers lawn mowers like people were saying lol maybe  it was engine  oil burning out exhaust or the  primary  chain getting too much oil and burning off  like you see after most races 

Could Mr Barrie's announcements have been deemed 'outside assistance'.  Also got to question his behaviour at heat 10 restart when he 'harassed' Fredriksen at the tapes. As a Track Official he should have been sanctioned by the referee. In my opinion removed from his duties and removed from the centre green for the rest of the meeting at the least. Note he didn't treat Barker in the same way in the restart of heat 15.

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5 minutes ago, edmon said:

Could Mr Barrie's announcements have been deemed 'outside assistance'.  Also got to question his behaviour at heat 10 restart when he 'harassed' Fredriksen at the tapes. As a Track Official he should have been sanctioned by the referee. In my opinion removed from his duties and removed from the centre green for the rest of the meeting at the least. Note he didn't treat Barker in the same way in the restart of heat 15.

They let him wander about as off track entertainment these days,he’s harmless.

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38 minutes ago, edmon said:

Could Mr Barrie's announcements have been deemed 'outside assistance'.  Also got to question his behaviour at heat 10 restart when he 'harassed' Fredriksen at the tapes. As a Track Official he should have been sanctioned by the referee. In my opinion removed from his duties and removed from the centre green for the rest of the meeting at the least. Note he didn't treat Barker in the same way in the restart of heat 15.

Mr Barrie runs things at Berwick on a Saturday, or at least he thinks he does.:blink:

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5 hours ago, edmon said:

Could Mr Barrie's announcements have been deemed 'outside assistance'.  Also got to question his behaviour at heat 10 restart when he 'harassed' Fredriksen at the tapes. As a Track Official he should have been sanctioned by the referee. In my opinion removed from his duties and removed from the centre green for the rest of the meeting at the least. Note he didn't treat Barker in the same way in the restart of heat 15.

He done something similar last season when we were down with Ben Basso also at the tapes.

Overstepping and remit spring to mind.

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2 hours ago, Fromafar said:

Question,? Can Paul Starke guest for anyone when not a 1-7 in any Team.

I don't think he can, which is a very stupid rule imo. Surely a club using an unattached rider is better than using one from a rival team?

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5 hours ago, szkocjasid said:

I don't think he can, which is a very stupid rule imo. Surely a club using an unattached rider is better than using one from a rival team?

Its certainly an odd where, for example last Saturday you had two Plymouth riders guesting for Berwick in their match with Edinburgh where they helped the home side win, a win that sent their own team to the bottom of the league.

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12 minutes ago, screm said:

Its certainly an odd where, for example last Saturday you had two Plymouth riders guesting for Berwick in their match with Edinburgh where they helped the home side win, a win that sent their own team to the bottom of the league.

Sums up British League Speedway.

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