egg Posted July 20 Report Share Posted July 20 Is there a list for starting averages, For foreign riders new to uk league racing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted July 20 Report Share Posted July 20 There are a set of principles drawn up depending on experience and league participation which outline the figures 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen52 Posted July 21 Report Share Posted July 21 21 hours ago, egg said: Is there a list for starting averages, For foreign riders new to uk league racing They just make it up as they go along, example Birmingham, Pawlicki and Milik. 1. Piotr Pawlicki 7.50 2. Wiktor Lampart 6.00 3. Steve Worrall 6.44 (6.60) 4. Tom Brennan 5.87 (6.02) 5. Vaclav Milik 7.50 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Sidney Posted July 21 Report Share Posted July 21 (edited) On 7/20/2024 at 7:10 PM, egg said: Is there a list for starting averages, For foreign riders new to uk league racing It's set out in the regulations section 010.2.2 You can download the regs here https://www.scbgb.co.uk/regulations Edited July 22 by Sir Sidney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotteringAround Posted July 21 Report Share Posted July 21 3 hours ago, heathen52 said: They just make it up as they go along, example Birmingham, Pawlicki and Milik. Why do people make up stupid lies like this, instead of giving the actual answer to someone who wants to know? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloom89 Posted July 28 Report Share Posted July 28 On 7/21/2024 at 8:27 PM, PotteringAround said: Why do people make up stupid lies like this, instead of giving the actual answer to someone who wants to know? They did make it up in fairness though didn’t they? They had old averages which they should’ve came back in on which were lower than the 7.50 they got saddled with but that would’ve meant Birmingham team total was too low so they had to tweak the averages to make the Birmingham side more competitive. Every man and his dog knew neither Milik or Pawlicki would/should be 7.50 averages. There is no consistency in the rules that’s the main problem with speedway imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotteringAround Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 On 7/28/2024 at 1:01 PM, bloom89 said: They did make it up in fairness though didn’t they? No, they didn't. It's just some fans don't understand the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloom89 Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 4 minutes ago, PotteringAround said: No, they didn't. It's just some fans don't understand the rules. There is no consistency in the process they use for averages, Janowski got his average reduced because he hadn’t rode here for a few years his assessed average was an 8.00 he’s been on a downward spiral for the last couple of years, Birmingham sign Lindgren who’s a gp rider which the rules state comes in on an 8.00 Lindgren is a far better rider. The two Birmingham lads how did they pluck 7.50 averages for the pair of them? Milik last time he rode here averaged 5.67 I think he’s not two points better than that average as he proved when he rode here he was shocking. Robert Lambert came back for Belle Vue maybe a couple of years ago on his old 7.61 average so you’re saying Milik and Pawlicki are the same standard as Lambert? As I was saying absolutely zero consistency in the way they got to the averages they did. Every man and his dog knew the two Birmingham lads averages were stupid and so it’s been proved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 (edited) 7 hours ago, bloom89 said: There is no consistency in the process they use for averages, Janowski got his average reduced because he hadn’t rode here for a few years his assessed average was an 8.00 he’s been on a downward spiral for the last couple of years, Birmingham sign Lindgren who’s a gp rider which the rules state comes in on an 8.00 Lindgren is a far better rider. The two Birmingham lads how did they pluck 7.50 averages for the pair of them? Milik last time he rode here averaged 5.67 I think he’s not two points better than that average as he proved when he rode here he was shocking. Robert Lambert came back for Belle Vue maybe a couple of years ago on his old 7.61 average so you’re saying Milik and Pawlicki are the same standard as Lambert? As I was saying absolutely zero consistency in the way they got to the averages they did. Every man and his dog knew the two Birmingham lads averages were stupid and so it’s been proved. As many said on here, before a wheel was turned, the averages were set up to make the Birmingham team appear competitive against the other teams put together.. And this was also in a league that this year saw more current GP, and recent GP riders than for a good many years, therefore the "mean level" of rider has risen.. Edited August 1 by mikebv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy cookie returns? Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 8 hours ago, PotteringAround said: No, they didn't. It's just some fans don't understand the rules. Neither do the guys in charge to be fair. The sport is littered with inconsistent decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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