Trackrat Posted July 21 Report Share Posted July 21 5 minutes ago, Arthur54 said: So you're saying Poole fixed it so Vinnie fell off in the warm up, then fell off in heat 2 wrecking both bikes in the process The wrecked bikes are insignificant, Poole took the opportunity to declare their weakest rider injured. What about the EF that won Poole the match? Forgot about that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackrat Posted July 21 Report Share Posted July 21 28 minutes ago, Arthur54 said: So you're saying Poole fixed it so Vinnie fell off in the warm up, then fell off in heat 2 wrecking both bikes in the process . At the end of the day Poole would have still won with or without the injury/ e/f, just the score would have been a bit closer, so move on Wow a clairvoyant as well as a dim wit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted July 21 Report Share Posted July 21 4 minutes ago, Trackrat said: Wow a clairvoyant as well as a dim wit. Don't need a clairvoyant, 5 - 1s in heats 12, 13 and 15 would have been more than enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackrat Posted July 21 Report Share Posted July 21 3 minutes ago, Arthur54 said: Don't need a clairvoyant, 5 - 1s in heats 12, 13 and 15 would have been more than enough No 5-1 in ht 12 without the cheating. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted July 21 Report Share Posted July 21 2 minutes ago, Trackrat said: No 5-1 in ht 12 without the cheating. But a 4-2 in heat 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackrat Posted July 21 Report Share Posted July 21 3 minutes ago, Arthur54 said: But a 4-2 in heat 11 Unbelievable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackrat Posted July 21 Report Share Posted July 21 Just now, Trackrat said: What is going on hahaha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellers101 Posted July 21 Report Share Posted July 21 7 hours ago, HGould said: I suspect the truth is that VJF was fit enough to continue. I suspect the problem was that having wrecked 2 bikes that when the other 6 Pirates were asked to lend him one the universal answer was Erm... "no" Not without a signed damage waiver at the very least. The kid is very fast but very wild. No one wants to see him (or anyone) hurt but he really does need a wise head in his ear to calm him down.. Poole couldn't risk the spectacle of 3 riders and only 1 Pirate because no one would risk their machinery. I would think most of the Poole riders would be reluctant to lend Foord a bike given his recent propensity to crash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellers101 Posted July 21 Report Share Posted July 21 3 hours ago, Arthur54 said: So you're saying Poole fixed it so Vinnie fell off in the warm up, then fell off in heat 2 wrecking both bikes in the process . At the end of the day Poole would have still won with or without the injury/ e/f, just the score would have been a bit closer, so move on Foord's crashes were advantageous to Poole as their weakest rider didn't have to take 3 rides. He didn't fall off on purpose in the warm up but come on, pulling him out definitely strengthened the team. Tobias was also obviously under instruction to throw his race to keep Poole 6 points behind so they could use the tac sub in the next heat. Not sure Poole would have won without Crash Bang Foord or the tactical ef! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK62 Posted July 22 Report Share Posted July 22 14 hours ago, Biffa said: Referee did go to the pits after heat 3 but don’t know why. To inspect a tyre. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Goddard Posted July 22 Report Share Posted July 22 Sorry I tried to say something positive earlier in the thread 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essex Posted July 22 Report Share Posted July 22 On 7/21/2024 at 11:54 PM, Bellers101 said: Foord's crashes were advantageous to Poole as their weakest rider didn't have to take 3 rides. He didn't fall off on purpose in the warm up but come on, pulling him out definitely strengthened the team. Tobias was also obviously under instruction to throw his race to keep Poole 6 points behind so they could use the tac sub in the next heat. Not sure Poole would have won without Crash Bang Foord or the tactical ef! I'm sure many teams have instructed riders to finish in certain positions so a tac sub could be used in the next race, cheating well it may or may not be but certainly not exclusive to one particular team and has been going on for years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted July 23 Report Share Posted July 23 6 hours ago, Essex said: I'm sure many teams have instructed riders to finish in certain positions so a tac sub could be used in the next race, cheating well it may or may not be but certainly not exclusive to one particular team and has been going on for years. Try explaining that to Trackrat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted July 23 Report Share Posted July 23 11 hours ago, Essex said: I'm sure many teams have instructed riders to finish in certain positions so a tac sub could be used in the next race, cheating well it may or may not be but certainly not exclusive to one particular team and has been going on for years. In no way did Poole cheat what they did in making sure they brought in a tac sub is what I hoped my management would do I think people get annoyed at the foolishness of certain Poole fans who think they were up against or after losing Foord and then the engine failure ……Poole won because they lost Foord and had the engine failure both were a huge help in them winning .. if Foord hadn’t have been injured then Poole may still have won The only way they have cheated is if Foord was fit but had no bikes something that can’t be proved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONTWOMINUTES Posted July 23 Report Share Posted July 23 1 hour ago, Gavan said: In no way did Poole cheat what they did in making sure they brought in a tac sub is what I hoped my management would do I think people get annoyed at the foolishness of certain Poole fans who think they were up against or after losing Foord and then the engine failure ……Poole won because they lost Foord and had the engine failure both were a huge help in them winning .. if Foord hadn’t have been injured then Poole may still have won The only way they have cheated is if Foord was fit but had no bikes something that can’t be proved If foord has no bikes then surely and in my experience of attending meetings a team mate would say " use my bike" . No point being a team if you can't or don't help each other. Even if the bike wasn't set up comfortably at least he'd of completed the rides required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted July 23 Report Share Posted July 23 1 hour ago, Gavan said: In no way did Poole cheat what they did in making sure they brought in a tac sub is what I hoped my management would do I think people get annoyed at the foolishness of certain Poole fans who think they were up against or after losing Foord and then the engine failure ……Poole won because they lost Foord and had the engine failure both were a huge help in them winning .. if Foord hadn’t have been injured then Poole may still have won The only way they have cheated is if Foord was fit but had no bikes something that can’t be proved The main issue with young Vinnie is his gating, if someone could tell him you are allowed to start before the other riders get to the first bend that would be a huge plus for him and he wouldn't have to ride like a madman to catch up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackrat Posted July 23 Report Share Posted July 23 1 hour ago, foreverblue said: The main issue with young Vinnie is his gating, if someone could tell him you are allowed to start before the other riders get to the first bend that would be a huge plus for him and he wouldn't have to ride like a madman to catch up. Ever thought of becoming a manager, genius. If only it was that easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted July 24 Report Share Posted July 24 21 hours ago, Trackrat said: Ever thought of becoming a manager, genius. If only it was that easy. Vinnie's gating isn't a manager issue, it is up to Vinnie who I think has alot of potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted July 24 Report Share Posted July 24 On 7/19/2024 at 8:11 PM, Gavan said: Huge boost for Poole now Foord is out and Hagon can take his rides Poor signing Foord can’t control a bike properly 6+1 tonight, just for you Gavan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted July 25 Report Share Posted July 25 17 hours ago, Arthur54 said: 6+1 tonight, just for you Gavan Yes and gating much improved, rode well last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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