IainB Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 Normal service has been resumed after a week of wet racing in Manchester 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
startline sid Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 1 hour ago, Bagpuss said: 'The two promotions have been in contact and have agreed the forecast for Monday evening offers little prospect of racing.' And one presumes the BSPL/SCB will have been involved too as a result of goings on earlier in the season. and to be fair the forecast is bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINYS Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 1 hour ago, startline sid said: and to be fair the forecast is bad Weather can change, should have made a decision tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 2 minutes ago, TINYS said: Weather can change, should have made a decision tomorrow. I imagine they do it the day before to stop riders flying in. At the end of the day these kinds of postponements are designed to prevent financial losses, simple as that really. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 13 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: I imagine they do it the day before to stop riders flying in. At the end of the day these kinds of postponements are designed to prevent financial losses, simple as that really. Agree. This is the sign of the times unfortunately. Most promotions can't afford to call a meeting off at the last minute these days.. Unless you have the money Ippo has 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 If you don't want to run it... you should give us the points! Isn't this the third time you've postponed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 2 minutes ago, iainb said: If you don't want to run it... you should give us the points! Isn't this the third time you've postponed? Did you see Baggy's post. Have you checked if it was correct, or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 4 minutes ago, iainb said: If you don't want to run it... you should give us the points! Isn't this the third time you've postponed? If Leicester wanted the points they wouldn't have agreed to the postponement one would imagine. I did wonder if both sides have new signings lined up and want to run it on a dry night when those riders are in. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 10 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: If Leicester wanted the points they wouldn't have agreed to the postponement one would imagine. I did wonder if both sides have new signings lined up and want to run it on a dry night when those riders are in. Highly likely hence the Mickey Mouse charade is allowed to go on..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: Did you see Baggy's post. Have you checked if it was correct, or not? 26 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: If Leicester wanted the points they wouldn't have agreed to the postponement one would imagine. I did wonder if both sides have new signings lined up and want to run it on a dry night when those riders are in. So Leicester called Buster up and said "we don't fancy it"? Come on! It doesn't matter whether they "agreed" to it or not, it's the home promotion's call. I've long since stopped believing anything that comes out of King's Lynn. The Twitter post even says they've been beaten by the weather again... they haven't, they've called the match of before any weather has arrived. Edited July 14 by iainb 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 2 minutes ago, iainb said: So Leicester called Buster up and said "we don't fancy it"? Come on! Well surely the Leicester promotion will come out and refute that claim? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 Leicester literally have an article on their website saying the two promotions have been in contact and have agreed that there is little product of racing, and as has been said several times the authorities have to ok it after Lynn had their wrists slapped. Just like the late call off the other week, all three parties are clearly in agreement. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 10 hours ago, Bagpuss said: I imagine they do it the day before to stop riders flying in. At the end of the day these kinds of postponements are designed to prevent financial losses, simple as that really. Seems pretty much that nowadays.Its easy for people to say call it off nearer the time when it isn't their money they are throwing away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackInTheDHSS Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 Ever heard the story 'Peter and the Wolf'? When meetings are called off no real reason, why should most speedway fans now believe anything King's Lynn say? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 5 minutes ago, tellboy said: Seems pretty much that nowadays.Its easy for people to say call it off nearer the time when it isn't their money they are throwing away. I’m sorry but I will never agree with you and Bagpuss on this. Despite all the technology, forecasts are still pretty unreliable, especially more than 24 hours before an event. We’ve had rain forecast that never came this year, and also forecasts for a completely dry day, which turned out to be completely untrue as it drizzled from early afternoon and in to the evening which caused the postponement of our fixture against Sheffield. I mentioned last night on the Ipswich Belle Vue thread that we need to keep an eye on the forecast as it wasn’t promising. The forecasts for Ipswich and King’s Lynn were identical. Not a washout by any means, but light rain from mid afternoon onwards. Ipswich made the more sensible approach here and this isn’t club bias. I’ve said this many times already this year, you get a far more accurate forecast (not perfect) on the day of a meeting. This morning the forecast hasn’t changed and if anything is slightly worse, so Ipswich have now postponed the meeting. I’m not a fan of postponing meetings more than 24 hours before a meeting. If every club starts doing that then it will cause havoc with the fixture lists up and down the country. You have to give it every chance. On the costs, if you’re a promoter and you’re concerned about the costs of flying in foreign based riders with a dodgy looking weather forecast, then don’t sign them. Sign a team of British based riders and leave the international riders to those willing to take the chance. Wait until you’ve a clearer idea of the weather on the morning of a meeting, and you can then still make the call before anyone starts travelling. How many times does a forecast change from the evening before a meeting, to the following morning? It happens frequently we all know it does because we all pay attention to them when a fixture is on the horizon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 10 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Highly likely hence the Mickey Mouse charade is allowed to go on..... Of course, But to be fair, it is clearly obvious what it is... Those who attend are happy enough to keep going to watch it.. In ever dwindling numbers admittedly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 35 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: I’m sorry but I will never agree with you and Bagpuss on this. Despite all the technology, forecasts are still pretty unreliable, especially more than 24 hours before an event. We’ve had rain forecast that never came this year, and also forecasts for a completely dry day, which turned out to be completely untrue as it drizzled from early afternoon and in to the evening which caused the postponement of our fixture against Sheffield. I mentioned last night on the Ipswich Belle Vue thread that we need to keep an eye on the forecast as it wasn’t promising. The forecasts for Ipswich and King’s Lynn were identical. Not a washout by any means, but light rain from mid afternoon onwards. Ipswich made the more sensible approach here and this isn’t club bias. I’ve said this many times already this year, you get a far more accurate forecast (not perfect) on the day of a meeting. This morning the forecast hasn’t changed and if anything is slightly worse, so Ipswich have now postponed the meeting. I’m not a fan of postponing meetings more than 24 hours before a meeting. If every club starts doing that then it will cause havoc with the fixture lists up and down the country. You have to give it every chance. On the costs, if you’re a promoter and you’re concerned about the costs of flying in foreign based riders with a dodgy looking weather forecast, then don’t sign them. Sign a team of British based riders and leave the international riders to those willing to take the chance. Wait until you’ve a clearer idea of the weather on the morning of a meeting, and you can then still make the call before anyone starts travelling. How many times does a forecast change from the evening before a meeting, to the following morning? It happens frequently we all know it does because we all pay attention to them when a fixture is on the horizon. I don't necessarily disagree, just saying why I believe they do it. They are in serious danger of running out of dates now though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 1 hour ago, BackInTheDHSS said: Ever heard the story 'Peter and the Wolf'? When meetings are called off no real reason, why should most speedway fans now believe anything King's Lynn say? It's a fair point, but they quite clearly can only do it now with the agreement of the other club and the authorities which in theory eliminates all dodginess from the equation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINYS Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 5 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: I don't necessarily disagree, just saying why I believe they do it. They are in serious danger of running out of dates now though. That's now 7 home meetings postponed so far. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 (edited) https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/forecast/u12b4ht3f#?date=2024-07-15 This is exactly my point about unreliable weather forecasts. The Met Office this morning for Ipswich had heavy rain from around 3. That’s now changed within a couple of hours on the actual day! Now saying a shower at 3, and the heavy stuff not due until between 9 and 10. It’ll no doubt change again by this afternoon. Edit: It’s literally changed AGAIN since I was typing out the post. LOL. Edited July 15 by Arch Stanton 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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