THE DEAN MACHINE Posted Monday at 08:55 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 08:55 PM 56 minutes ago, Racin Jason 72 said: Possibly Buster too at Peterborough I think it happened at stoke too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted Monday at 10:26 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 10:26 PM 1 hour ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Maybe but it could be the thing that gets a lifeline at the end of the season for Birmingham when the dogs move out It’s the last season of speedway at Birmingham unless they buy the stadium which I doubt they could afford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted Monday at 10:56 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 10:56 PM (edited) 30 minutes ago, stevebrum said: It’s the last season of speedway at Birmingham unless they buy the stadium which I doubt they could afford. That’s my point,wolves temporally at Bham would double the rent usage and get closer to the £150,000 needed for Bham to take over a lease holders, it’s still a shortfall but what’s really needed is Birmingham council to open up the lease for other uses Edited Monday at 10:57 PM by THE DEAN MACHINE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted 16 hours ago Report Share Posted 16 hours ago (edited) 11 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: That’s my point,wolves temporally at Bham would double the rent usage and get closer to the £150,000 needed for Bham to take over a lease holders, it’s still a shortfall but what’s really needed is Birmingham council to open up the lease for other uses Whilst your point of two teams operating at Birmingham and thus providing greater rental income is understandable, but as you recognise, in reality it the combined income would still be insufficient to support the total running costs of the facility. As for the council broadening the uses at the stadium, what other activities are there that would generate sufficient income to cover the speedway shortfall? Edited 16 hours ago by 1 valve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted 15 hours ago Report Share Posted 15 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, 1 valve said: Whilst your point of two teams operating at Birmingham and thus providing greater rental income is understandable, but as you recognise, in reality it the combined income would still be insufficient to support the total running costs of the facility. As for the council broadening the uses at the stadium, what other activities are there that would generate sufficient income to cover the speedway shortfall? There are many uses, from stock car to go karts to car boots and anything in between but as I understand it the council are basically saying no to other ways of making revenue and uses for the stadium, in a roundabout way they are forcing the speedway out but making so as the speedway make the decision Edited 15 hours ago by THE DEAN MACHINE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted 14 hours ago Report Share Posted 14 hours ago 13 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: That’s my point,wolves temporally at Bham would double the rent usage and get closer to the £150,000 needed for Bham to take over a lease holders, it’s still a shortfall but what’s really needed is Birmingham council to open up the lease for other uses I think the long term plan is to develop the stadium for housing. If they could make it pay at Perry Barr with Cradley NL, Birmingham champ, Wolverhampton Prem for the next 5 to 10 years while they try to develop an out of town motorsport venue for all 3 teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie456 Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago 48 minutes ago, eric i said: I think the long term plan is to develop the stadium for housing. If they could make it pay at Perry Barr with Cradley NL, Birmingham champ, Wolverhampton Prem for the next 5 to 10 years while they try to develop an out of town motorsport venue for all 3 teams. Perry Barr is going to be built on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago 22 minutes ago, Wolfie456 said: Perry Barr is going to be built on. Yes but when? Council might want houses ASAP but there is at least a few years left before construction will start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago Is there a proven case of a team moving to another club and sharing stadiums and it being a success? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago 38 minutes ago, Pinny said: Is there a proven case of a team moving to another club and sharing stadiums and it being a success? Yes cradley at wolves and to a lesser extent cradley at stoke wasn’t a complete fail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJC Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago 40 minutes ago, Pinny said: Is there a proven case of a team moving to another club and sharing stadiums and it being a success? Didn't work for us at Bristol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago 2 hours ago, DJC said: Didn't work for us at Bristol. Who did Bristol share with ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Who did Bristol share with ? Edinburgh... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 6 hours ago, Wolfie456 said: Perry Barr is going to be built on. Are there not hundreds of unoccupied rooms just over the road from Perry Barr? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie456 Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 1 minute ago, IainB said: Are there not hundreds of unoccupied rooms just over the road from Perry Barr? Doesn't matter Birmingham city council only like football cricket and athletics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago (edited) 28 minutes ago, IainB said: Are there not hundreds of unoccupied rooms just over the road from Perry Barr? Yes and they can’t sell because they don’t have bathrooms, they were built for commonwealth games and had communal bathrooms, the games were allocated £millions of which £50 million was never spent and is now supposedly being proposed for a velodrome in Bridgnorth Shropshire but that has gone very quiet lately and one of my customers who is a big player in Bridgnorth with the council said he knew nothing about it so sounds like some iffy dealings going on somewhere, there were 2 other locations in the running for the velodrome too both in the Black Country, what do you think was the answer when speedway asked to be part of the plans ? Edited 6 hours ago by THE DEAN MACHINE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago (edited) I have spoken about this before but speedway needs to consider becoming an amateur charity like sport and it would then get tracks built like althletics, bmx, cycling etc built for free as part of projects like this commonwealth games left over money,with good accountants riders could still earn a living from the sport,we have to start thinking out the box, at the moment from the very top we have a shoddy at best working organisation running the sport, there should be a go to manual/protocol for any new potential promotion to turn to for when they meet professional planners who have questions they need answering, there isn’t one, how amateurish is that ? The bspl/scb don’t answer calls or emails and when you finally get a reply they don’t have answers like what’s the decibel reading at 150yards from the bikes, these are questions planners ask and the sport doesn’t have them, there is no go to person and quite frankly it’s pathetic for what is supposed to be a professional sport and this is why you get residents turning up a planning meetings saying “I’m not having hells angels riding up and down my road all hours of the day” we know it’s not like that but people outside the sport don’t and this is why there should be go to protocol for these planning meetings Edited 5 hours ago by THE DEAN MACHINE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJC Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago (edited) 4 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Who did Bristol share with ? Newport in 77? Believe they were the called the Dragons, the Newport promotion went across after Somerton Park closed and took a few riders over. Way before my time but understand fans didn't travel as well as expected I could have got that wrong but that was my understanding from what my old man had told me. Edited 6 hours ago by DJC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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