Glasgow v Berwick CL , 21/6/24@19-30

[Robinh88]

Sets up tomorrow quite well, looking forward to it.

[Gazc]

  On 6/21/2024 at 7:24 PM, Neila said:

Tigger fans taking things too seriously 

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Not  taking anything seriously especially trolls.

[Cast1rn]

Worrall haters quiet tonight, banged in 11.

[Gazc]

  On 6/21/2024 at 10:28 PM, Cast1rn said:

Worrall haters quiet tonight, banged in 11.

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I don’t think anyone hates him as such he is a steady Eddie type rider and will always chip in with important points.

It is and it’s just my opinion he replaced a box office rider in Basso and let’s be honest who would you rather watch.

unfortunately diluting the product has ensured riders like Basso had too move onto pastures new.

Edited June 21, 2024 by Gazc

[Noelinho]

  On 6/21/2024 at 10:28 PM, Cast1rn said:

Worrall haters quiet tonight, banged in 11.

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He's been better than people like to give him credit for all season, he's just a bit unloved because he's a bit dull, combined with replacing Basso.

Not really his fault.

[szkocjasid]

  On 6/21/2024 at 8:41 PM, Catch Me If You Can said:

2 mins x don't count as a ride  Garrad had to take heat 14 Bandits no doubt expected Kemp to take win

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  On 6/21/2024 at 8:52 PM, Fromafar said:

Hagon had beat Jye and Flint in Ht 9 though. Don't really see why replacing Jye in Ht 13 is an issue Hagon was riding well.

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Hagon was much more likely to win ht 14 than ht 13, so Garrad should've taken his 3rd ride in place of Etheridge, leaving Hagon in 14.

[szkocjasid]

  On 6/21/2024 at 10:00 PM, Noelinho said:

Well, the rules aren't completely in agreement on this, just as they aren't on protected heats, because in both cases, the rule is stated twice, but differently.

In this case, it says:

But it also says:

Garrad's ride was not programmed (but the second mention of this rule says that's irrelevant, it resulted in disqualification, and he was not replaced. The rule does not specify this ride should be treated on account of the rider already replacing a disqualified rider.

The second mention of the rule doesn't mention RS rides, so although it doesn't specifically include them, it also doesn't preclude them.

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Why is the rulebook so confusing?

[Cast1rn]

  On 6/21/2024 at 10:40 PM, Gazc said:

I don’t think anyone hates him as such he is a steady Eddie type rider and will always chip in with important points.

It is and it’s just my opinion he replaced a box office rider in Basso and let’s be honest who would you rather watch.

unfortunately diluting the product has ensured riders like Basso had too move onto pastures new.

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And now Basso, is a 9.86 to set foot in the championship thanks to the extremely ill thought x1.5 rule .

Worrall is gate and gone, you saw that tonight, but if he isn't away from the gates you can guarantee he isn't going to pass. 

With all the "replace this rider replace that rider" I just don't see letting Worrall go benefits us at all.

[Noelinho]

  On 6/21/2024 at 10:53 PM, szkocjasid said:

Why is the rulebook so confusing?

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As a nation, we are not good at things that require clarity and conciseness. We like to think we are, but we are hopelessly wrong. It’s not a speedway thing, it’s a cultural feature.

[Gazc]

  On 6/21/2024 at 10:58 PM, Cast1rn said:

And now Basso, is a 9.86 to set foot in the championship thanks to the extremely ill thought x1.5 rule .

Worrall is gate and gone, you saw that tonight, but if he isn't away from the gates you can guarantee he isn't going to pass. 

With all the "replace this rider replace that rider" I just don't see letting Worrall go benefits us at all.

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You are correct we won’t replace Worrall , Flint however could be on the at danger list.

If I was the team manager I would be getting Bomber to have a word with Riss at there next Spires meeting, with our team points limit so far under and Flint’s average this could be doable.

[Cast1rn]

  On 6/21/2024 at 11:05 PM, Gazc said:

You are correct we won’t replace Worrall , Flint however could be on the at danger list.

If I was the team manager I would be getting Bomber to have a word with Riss at there next Spires meeting, with our team points limit so far under and Flint’s average this could be doable.

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Riss for Leon is a straight swap with 0.74 left over and not counting any 2.5% Brit discount.

[Gazc]

  On 6/21/2024 at 11:24 PM, Cast1rn said:

Riss for Leon is a straight swap with 0.74 left over and not counting any 2.5% Brit discount.

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For me it’s a no brainier and we need to be ruthless.

Let’s be honest Leon has never rode our track well and continues to not ride it well even as a home rider ,  it’s just one of those matches that aren’t suited.

Signing Riss would strengthen us significantly home and away.

[Cast1rn]

  On 6/21/2024 at 11:30 PM, Gazc said:

For me it’s a no brainier and we need to be ruthless.

Let’s be honest Leon has never rode our track well and continues to not ride it well even as a home rider ,  it’s just one of those matches that aren’t suited.

Signing Riss would strengthen us significantly home and away.

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I'd put max Perry/Jody Scott/any 2 pointer in at 7, to allow a 5 pointer in for Starke, but we don't make the decisions it's down to the people with the cheque books.

[Gazc]

  On 6/21/2024 at 11:37 PM, Cast1rn said:

I'd put max Perry/Jody Scott/any 2 pointer in at 7, to allow a 5 pointer in for Starke, but we don't make the decisions it's down to the people with the cheque books.

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No many if any 5 point riders floating about waiting on the call unfortunately.

[ragdoll64]

  On 6/21/2024 at 10:58 PM, Cast1rn said:

And now Basso, is a 9.86 to set foot in the championship thanks to the extremely ill thought x1.5 rule .

Worrall is gate and gone, you saw that tonight, but if he isn't away from the gates you can guarantee he isn't going to pass. 

With all the "replace this rider replace that rider" I just don't see letting Worrall go benefits us at all.

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It’s not just that he isn’t going to pass that’s annoying …….he doesn’t even make up any ground when behind. Yet, when he’s in front, he can stretch out a lead. Frustrating to watch but as said, can bang in important points. 

[Cast1rn]

  On 6/21/2024 at 11:41 PM, Gazc said:

No many if any 5 point riders floating about waiting on the call unfortunately.

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Anyone riding in Polish u24's does, like the slightly smaller chap doing laps in JP race suit and bike after the meeting.

[ragdoll64]

  On 6/21/2024 at 11:30 PM, Gazc said:

For me it’s a no brainier and we need to be ruthless.

Let’s be honest Leon has never rode our track well and continues to not ride it well even as a home rider ,  it’s just one of those matches that aren’t suited.

Signing Riss would strengthen us significantly home and away.

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I can’t remember what he said but at the time I momentarily wondered…..did Michael Max just hint something about Riss?  I could have picked it up wrongly though. 

[Gazc]

  On 6/21/2024 at 11:43 PM, Cast1rn said:

Anyone riding in Polish u24's does, like the slightly smaller chap doing laps in JP race suit and bike after the meeting.

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Interesting I’m sure our owners will be as frustrated as we all are with how inconsistent we are just now .

I am sure they will be exploring how and who they strengthen with. 

Michael Max has history at uncovering low averaged high profile Russians sorry meant overseas riders.

[Gazc]

  On 6/21/2024 at 11:53 PM, ragdoll64 said:

I can’t remember what he said but at the time I momentarily wondered…..did Michael Max just hint something about Riss?  I could have picked it up wrongly though. 

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The plot thickens I never heard what was said.

[ragdoll64]

  On 6/21/2024 at 11:43 PM, Cast1rn said:

Anyone riding in Polish u24's does, like the slightly smaller chap doing laps in JP race suit and bike after the meeting.

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Wow……and I thought that was just JP having some practice laps. I’m excited now…..