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Scunthorpe vs Berwick - Championship - 7/6/24


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The delay was frustrating for all concerned.

Hope Rory is able to be back reasonably soon.

However the racing was good quality reminding me of the times that I regularly went to Scunthorpe even though it was a long journey from Llandudno.

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35 minutes ago, Bandit59 said:

I think Dickson missed a trick could have signed Vinnie Foord after the under 21 meeting, maybe tried but not successful,Hodder scored really well against Worky but since then the tracks been slick and has been useless 

Wasn't it during the U21 meeting that Schlein mentioned he'd been signed by somebody? Meaning the deal had already been done. Still, with his Leicester connections you'd have thought he'd have been aware of things happening. 

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38 minutes ago, Bandit59 said:

I think Dickson missed a trick could have signed Vinnie Foord after the under 21 meeting, maybe tried but not successful,Hodder scored really well against Worky but since then the tracks been slick and has been useless 

I'm sure deal was done well before Under 21s

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18 minutes ago, Tosh1218 said:

What a complete fool you are , speedway riders get inured daily on speedway tracks all over Europe .its the nature of the sport when 4 riders and machines come into contact during official meetings or  practice for racing .  The bikes now are faster then previous years, they  race on a track with shale on it with usually 4 riders coming into the first bend with a limited space for the machines so there is always going to be crashes and injuries . 
 I’ve watched racing at over 40 tracks in Britain over the years and the chances of serious injuries occurs at all of them .Your digs are always aimed at Scunthorpe or there promotion and is getting tedious 
 I would like to wish Rory all the best  in his recovery and hope to see him on a track soon as he has been a brilliant servant to British speedway and first watched him as a 16 year old at Sheffield.

Thanks for your, for a change and for the most part, thought out reply Tosh(pot)1218. I actually quite enjoy my trips to Scunny, on the rare occasion that things run smoothly. It can't be coincidence that these things keep happening time and time again at Scunthorpe. You've got a great race track, the most dangerous fence in the leagues, one of the worst penny pinching promoters and some of the daftest fans :drink:

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37 minutes ago, iainb said:

Thanks for your, for a change and for the most part, thought out reply Tosh(pot)1218. I actually quite enjoy my trips to Scunny, on the rare occasion that things run smoothly. It can't be coincidence that these things keep happening time and time again at Scunthorpe. You've got a great race track, the most dangerous fence in the leagues, one of the worst penny pinching promoters and some of the daftest fans :drink:

the foam fence is of the same construction as berwicks which saved Luke from major injury last week so how can it be the fences fault. its how the rider hits the fence thats the issue not the fence.

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4 minutes ago, phillwhitewasmad said:

the foam fence is of the same construction as berwicks which saved Luke from major injury last week so how can it be the fences fault. its how the rider hits the fence thats the issue not the fence.

What sits behind Berwick's fence?

What sits behind Scunthorpe's fence?

It's all about energy Absorption and dissipation

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42 minutes ago, iainb said:

Thanks for your, for a change and for the most part, thought out reply Tosh(pot)1218. I actually quite enjoy my trips to Scunny, on the rare occasion that things run smoothly. It can't be coincidence that these things keep happening time and time again at Scunthorpe. You've got a great race track, the most dangerous fence in the leagues, one of the worst penny pinching promoters and some of the daftest fans :drink:

The fence is a recommended standard so why is it any different from any other foam fence.?

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2 minutes ago, Fromafar said:

The fence is a recommended standard so why is it any different from any other foam fence.?

See above; energy absorption and dissipation, if Schlein had hit any other fence in the land, maybe with the exception of King's Lynn he'd have walked away

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27 minutes ago, iainb said:

Thanks for your, for a change and for the most part, thought out reply Tosh(pot)1218. I actually quite enjoy my trips to Scunny, on the rare occasion that things run smoothly. It can't be coincidence that these things keep happening time and time again at Scunthorpe. You've got a great race track, the most dangerous fence in the leagues, one of the worst penny pinching promoters and some of the daftest fans :drink:

Why “pot” has been added to my title is rather a stupid comment in the circumstances???

but back to last night and a couple of facts for you , the track doctor administered a pain relief while Rory was on track  in agony  so they had to stay with him at track side & the pits until NHS medics arrived and took over .

Also the incident was originally an emergency response by the local NHS trust but once the track medics had made Rory comfortable at the pits this was downgraded by the NHS to not critical so hence the delay as it was downgraded and we at track side waited  for the local ambulance to arrive which did and I presume Rory was taken to the biggest hospital locally Hull Royal over the Humber Bridge .

Im sure people attending like myself were put out a little bit but Rory ‘s health and treatment is more important  at times like this .

Hope Rory has a full & speedy recovery 

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2 minutes ago, Tosh1218 said:

Why “pot” has been added to my title is rather a stupid comment in the circumstances???

but back to last night and a couple of facts for you , the track doctor administered a pain relief while Rory was on track  in agony  so they had to stay with him at track side & the pits until NHS medics arrived and took over .

Also the incident was originally an emergency response by the local NHS trust but once the track medics had made Rory comfortable at the pits this was downgraded by the NHS to not critical so hence the delay as it was downgraded and we at track side waited  for the local ambulance to arrive which did and I presume Rory was taken to the biggest hospital locally Hull Royal over the Humber Bridge .

Im sure people attending like myself were put out a little bit but Rory ‘s health and treatment is more important  at times like this .

Hope Rory has a full & speedy recovery 

It's a play on words... I'm calling you a tosspot, but if you hadn't have started off with an abusive post maybe we could have had a civilised debate. I'm not disputing anything that happened after the incident, it was what it was... it just keeps happening at Scunthorpe though because your "safety" fence isn't up to muster

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11 hours ago, Shrimmy said:

What was the other ambulance in the pits for after the other one left..it’s always there so I don’t understand the massive delay 

Last time I was there it was the medical room and static but that may have changed

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39 minutes ago, iainb said:

It's a play on words... I'm calling you a tosspot, but if you hadn't have started off with an abusive post maybe we could have had a civilised debate. I'm not disputing anything that happened after the incident, it was what it was... it just keeps happening at Scunthorpe though because your "safety" fence isn't up to muster

Go on then name the crashes at scunny where a rider has been more injured in your words than at any other track because of the fence seen as though it keeps happening?

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1 hour ago, iainb said:

See above; energy absorption and dissipation, if Schlein had hit any other fence in the land, maybe with the exception of King's Lynn he'd have walked away

You can't prove that it's just your opinion 

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3 hours ago, Ian68 said:

Go on then name the crashes at scunny where a rider has been more injured in your words than at any other track because of the fence seen as though it keeps happening?

Off the top of my head, Joe Alcock, Zaine Kennedy and Ricky Ashworth

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3 minutes ago, iainb said:

Off the top of my head, Joe Lawlor, Zaine Kennedy and Ricky Ashworth

Ricky Ashworth didn't hit the fence he hit his head on the track, Zaine Kennedy went through the backstraight fence (No track has air or polyfoam fences down their straights). You really need to research before spouting crap on forum's 

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53 minutes ago, phillwhitewasmad said:

You can't prove that it's just your opinion 

Yes, it is my opinion... I doubt that any energy absorption tests have been carried out at any of the tracks with their different combination of fence construction. It would be interesting to see those results if tests have been carried out. 

It's common sense that an airbag in front of a springy wire mesh fence is going to be a hell of a lot better than a foam bag in front of a metal fence in front of a solid wall of soil or concrete. 

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1 hour ago, Ian68 said:

Go on then name the crashes at scunny where a rider has been more injured in your words than at any other track because of the fence seen as though it keeps happening?

Ricky Ashworth, Steve Worrell and quite a few more with broken bones they wouldn't have received at other tracks. Its not ‘the fence’ its what ‘the fence’ is attached too, ARMCO barrier and a earth mound, no give whatsoever, which is why the SCB Refs reports had the track rated as the worst for ‘faults’ in the country until the chairman changed the reporting system. Wonder why ?

Dont get me wrong, the track itself always produces good racing but its outer fence construction, with steel beams  sticking out and wire ropes is a joke for a speedway track.

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2 minutes ago, Fortythirtyeight said:

Ricky Ashworth, Steve Worrell and quite a few more with broken bones they wouldn't have received at other tracks. Its not ‘the fence’ its what ‘the fence’ is attached too, ARMCO barrier and a earth mound, no give whatsoever, which is why the SCB Refs reports had the track rated as the worst for ‘faults’ in the country until the chairman changed the reporting system. Wonder why ?

Dont get me wrong, the track itself always produces good racing but its outer fence construction, with steel beams  sticking out and wire ropes is a joke for a speedway track.

Ricky Ashworth highsided,, went over the handlebars and landed on the track...  he didn't make direct contact with the fence. 

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10 minutes ago, Fozzie4388 said:

Ricky Ashworth didn't hit the fence he hit his head on the track, Zaine Kennedy went through the backstraight fence (No track has air or polyfoam fences down their straights). You really need to research before spouting crap on forum's 

I've seen video of the crash and if there had been an air fence, which were prevalent at that time, Ricky Ashworth would not have sustained the injuries he did. There's also video footage of the Zaine Kennedy crash, again caused by there being no energy absorption or dissipation by Scunthorpe's so called "safety" fence. 

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