Fromafar Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 (edited) 19 minutes ago, kevin bass said: What's the deal with Fricke and Holder, is it an Aussie thing, bad blood between them or just Holder being a bad loser, again last night after Fricke beat Holder in the Quali heats same as the last GP Holder just roared past him at the end of the race, no handshake no nothing. Holder is aTw#t.Up his own ar*se.Always has been. Edited June 16 by Fromafar 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin bass Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 4 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Holder is aTw#t.Up his own ar*se.Always has been. I was gonna put it that way myself but was trying to be polite 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisdonnelly Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 27 minutes ago, kevin bass said: What's the deal with Fricke and Holder, is it an Aussie thing, bad blood between them or just Holder being a bad loser, again last night after Fricke beat Holder in the Quali heats same as the last GP Holder just roared past him at the end of the race, no handshake no nothing. If you watch after every race holder wins or loses he never acknowledges his opponents. Look at his other races last night - vaculik is beaten and tries to congratulate him and he ignores it and rides off 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technik Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 10 hours ago, LagutaRacingFan said: Another boring GP. I didn't bother watching as I knew the result. Laguta is the only man capable of beating Zmarzlik and he has been banned by the woke FIM. I think you may need to revise your views. The FIM suspended the Russian riders from all events that much is correct. Laguta as Sayfutinov took off to Poland & both now hold Polish passports & race on Polish licences. No former Russians have been used in the Polish National teams or the Polish Championship. Your arguement should be with the PZM & not the FIM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 (edited) 1 hour ago, Chrisdonnelly said: If you watch after every race holder wins or loses he never acknowledges his opponents. Look at his other races last night - vaculik is beaten and tries to congratulate him and he ignores it and rides off Which is exactly the way it should be, I can't bare to watch these riders slobbering over each other after a race. It's all too chummy chummy, it's part of the reason why everybody just lets Zmarlik by when he's on their tailpipe, so they can have kisses and cuddles with him afterwards, instead of slamming the door shut with a I don't give a f**k what you think about it attitude. A lot of it started with Greg Hancock throwing himself over riders after races back in the 90's, if you look at old videos from before that period riders very rarely even acknowledged each other, let alone shook hands, now it's all touchy feely. I think the beef started a few years ago when Fricke was selected for the SoN by Lemo ahead of Holder, whether it goes deeper than that I don't know. But I rather like Jack Holder's No F**ks given attitude, not particularly by what he says as he's a bit of a DJ Woffy lite on that front but he's currently backing that up on track. Edited June 16 by iainb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 According to this article attendence was almost 7000 https://sverigesradio.se/artikel/mikael-raddade-malilla-efter-regnkaoset-far-offra-sig-lite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 40 minutes ago, iainb said: Which is exactly the way it should be, I can't bare to watch these riders slobbering over each other after a race. It's all too chummy chummy, it's part of the reason why everybody just lets Zmarlik by when he's on their tailpipe, so they can have kisses and cuddles with him afterwards, instead of slamming the door shut with a I don't give a f**k what you think about it attitude. A lot of it started with Greg Hancock throwing himself over riders after races back in the 90's, if you look at old videos from before that period riders very rarely even acknowledged each other, let alone shook hands, now it's all touchy feely. I think the beef started a few years ago when Fricke was selected for the SoN by Lemo ahead of Fricke, whether it goes deeper than that I don't know. But I rather like Jack Holder's No F**ks given attitude, not particularly by what he says as he's a bit of a DJ Woffy lite on that front but he's currently backing that up on track. I agree with the vast majority of that but a quick acknowledgement to the winner especially after a good race really doesn't hurt. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted June 16 Author Report Share Posted June 16 1 hour ago, Technik said: I think you may need to revise your views. The FIM suspended the Russian riders from all events that much is correct. Laguta as Sayfutinov took off to Poland & both now hold Polish passports & race on Polish licences. No former Russians have been used in the Polish National teams or the Polish Championship. Your arguement should be with the PZM & not the FIM Apart from Gleb Chugunov that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 3 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: I agree with the vast majority of that but a quick acknowledgement to the winner especially after a good race really doesn't hurt. Maybe a quick 4 fingers up while still holding onto the handlebar grip... but that's all 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 2 hours ago, pubichair said: Absolute disagree Darcy was a much better talent than zmarlik imo and much more exciting to watch You will never know. Talent is nowhere near as important as dedication and bloody hard work... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technik Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 32 minutes ago, racers and royals said: Apart from Gleb Chugunov that is. He became a Polish National prior to the conflict so at the time was not Russian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 They will be putting a dodgy sponsor's sticker on Bartek's kevlars pretty soon.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullmax Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 11 hours ago, iainb said: It'll be interesting to see if Fricke continues his run and if by some chance Doyley gets fit before the end of the season, would Doyle come back into the GP's if Fricke was in the position to do something, top 3, top 6? Another good GP, it's been a pretty good year so far, with the exception of Prague. Our first visit to Prague and it was one of the best GP weekends we've ever had. You'd have to go a long way to get a better experience than we had over those 4 days we spent in the Czech capital. It's the only GP weekend we've done where we had to find time to fit in the meeting ! . As we were there we didn't think that the racing was that bad considering the awful weather , which from early morning until 4pm saw heavy and constant rain. Any meeting in the UK would certainly not have gone ahead and indeed would have been cancelled just by the predicted weather forecast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ytsejam Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 12 hours ago, Fromafar said: There is no doubt he is the Best in the World.Kelvin is just waiting for Woffy to turn it on again though.!!!!! Haha!!... He'll have a heck of a long wait!! Woffendon is a total embarrassment and is making a fool of himself (which is not hard to do!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 24 minutes ago, ytsejam said: Haha!!... He'll have a heck of a long wait!! Woffendon is a total embarrassment and is making a fool of himself (which is not hard to do!!) Who is "Woffendon"? The irony of embarrassment... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJC Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 1 hour ago, chunky said: You will never know. Talent is nowhere near as important as dedication and bloody hard work... I’m far from Zmarzlik’s biggest fan but last night he was ridiculously good when it mattered. you’ve probably hit the nail on the head there with the Bart v Darcy debate, it feels like Bart was born to be the best (only sporting comparisons I can make are the Williams sisters in tennis) and is the ultimate professional where as Darcy was incredibly talented but his actions and percived desire were more often than not very lacking. Thoroughly enjoyed that meeting but did had a tenner on Fricke at 20/1 which put a downer on the final! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 13 minutes ago, DJC said: I’m far from Zmarzlik’s biggest fan but last night he was ridiculously good when it mattered. where as Darcy was incredibly talented but his actions and percived desire were more often than not very lacking. Which can be said about a number of riders over the years, most notably Lee and Carter. As you say, Zmarzlik turned it on when it mattered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisdonnelly Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 (edited) 3 hours ago, iainb said: Which is exactly the way it should be, I can't bare to watch these riders slobbering over each other after a race. It's all too chummy chummy, it's part of the reason why everybody just lets Zmarlik by when he's on their tailpipe, so they can have kisses and cuddles with him afterwards, instead of slamming the door shut with a I don't give a f**k what you think about it attitude. A lot of it started with Greg Hancock throwing himself over riders after races back in the 90's, if you look at old videos from before that period riders very rarely even acknowledged each other, let alone shook hands, now it's all touchy feely. I think the beef started a few years ago when Fricke was selected for the SoN by Lemo ahead of Holder, whether it goes deeper than that I don't know. But I rather like Jack Holder's No F**ks given attitude, not particularly by what he says as he's a bit of a DJ Woffy lite on that front but he's currently backing that up on track. Completely agree. Someone really needs to step up and take it to zmarslik. From the current group only fricke & holder seem capable of running riders up to the fence . Fricke had a good go last night but zmarsik was on another level Edited June 16 by Chrisdonnelly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 2 hours ago, mikebv said: They will be putting a dodgy sponsor's sticker on Bartek's kevlars pretty soon.... They will need to try something,on track not working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Chrisdonnelly said: Completely agree. Someone really needs to step up and take it to zmarslik. From the current group only fricke & holder seem capable of running riders up to the fence How times are people saying “they need to take it to Smarzlik” they are just not good enough Full Stop.Obviously he knows what’s coming and would react to the situation accordingly.Fricke didn’t make it easy in the Final but couldn’t stop him. ps you get excluded if you knock someone off,so it’s not really the answer. Edited June 16 by Fromafar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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