mikebv Posted May 28 Report Share Posted May 28 11 hours ago, Speedtiger said: I’ve never been a fan of Lemon but No matter what really went on, he has proved again he doesn’t know what he’s doing and as a manager he is less than poor. He clearly can not deal with a crisis and is feeble and fails to control the situation. He’s caused himself and BV club embarrassment and he should come clean and take responsibility rather than pathetically blaming others. I think that maybe he has taken on too much? CEO and TM combined must be a full on role, especially considering the SON and BF will also need organising.. (And he needs to find half a million quid for the SON!!!)... He has often seemed to miss an obvious trick when it comes to TAC SUB rides and ensuring "hot reserves" get plenty of rides... Maybe just concentrating on the CEO job, (even if just for this one season given all on his plate), would help him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted May 28 Report Share Posted May 28 (edited) The white-wash statement on the BV website is as short as the meeting was long! Nice of Lemo to single out "Our fans" who "showed their patience as we tried our hardest to complete 15 heats"... and to hell with everybody else? Edited May 28 by iainb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedtiger Posted May 28 Report Share Posted May 28 15 minutes ago, mikebv said: I think that maybe he has taken on too much? CEO and TM combined must be a full on role, especially considering the SON and BF will also need organising.. (And he needs to find half a million quid for the SON!!!)... He has often seemed to miss an obvious trick when it comes to TAC SUB rides and ensuring "hot reserves" get plenty of rides... Maybe just concentrating on the CEO job, (even if just for this one season given all on his plate), would help him? Agreed, he’s certainly not qualified to be CEO and clearly he is way out of his depth and he only inherited the job because Smith walked away or as some insider suggested was got rid of to save cash. Lemon was a cheap and easy option for the detached owners. The club is losing money every season and that must be a big pressure that he’s obviously not capable of handling or changing. Lemon job as TM is littered with basic errors and he misses so many tactical opportunities, ok he was an average rider but he’s a well below average manager. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveWayne Posted May 28 Report Share Posted May 28 1 hour ago, AceBelle said: Utter shambles hope lessons are learned from this farcical pathetic meeting Yeah, but on a positive note, at least you can use it as an excuse when you drop an aggregate point next month. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted May 28 Report Share Posted May 28 I only returned from holiday at 1630 yesterday so cant comment on events as i wasnt there, when we landed at Manchester airport in the rain and i saw how wet it was it appeared there had been heavy rain, a mate of mine said the weather had been bad so i automatically assumed the meeting would have been off. Reading the comments it seems to have been a shambles, strange that Buster calls off meetings when there is no rain and yesterday when the weather was poor and a call off could be justified they ran it. It seems reading comments from people that were there the club shot themselves in the foot with this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike.Butler Posted May 28 Report Share Posted May 28 i paid £27 for 10 processional races. i need my head examining 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted May 28 Report Share Posted May 28 29 minutes ago, Mike.Butler said: i paid £27 for 10 processional races. i need my head examining Don’t go to any other track as you’ll get 15! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted May 28 Report Share Posted May 28 1 hour ago, Speedtiger said: Agreed, he’s certainly not qualified to be CEO and clearly he is way out of his depth and he only inherited the job because Smith walked away or as some insider suggested was got rid of to save cash. Lemon was a cheap and easy option for the detached owners. The club is losing money every season and that must be a big pressure that he’s obviously not capable of handling or changing. Lemon job as TM is littered with basic errors and he misses so many tactical opportunities, ok he was an average rider but he’s a well below average manager. It has always amazed me that clubs don't take on some proper professional marketing people to drive footfall into their stadiums... They will each spend literally hundreds of thousands on their riders each year, who hardly anyone in even the next street will recognise, yet a very minimal amount on actually promoting themselves.. A strange business model.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted May 28 Report Share Posted May 28 10 minutes ago, ouch said: Don’t go to any other track as you’ll get 15! You need to get out more. Try going to Glasgow, Workington, Redcar, Oxford or Scunthorpe for example. Broaden your horizons a little. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenantony Posted May 28 Report Share Posted May 28 Just for my clarity - what did Lemon say that he had to retract later? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted May 28 Report Share Posted May 28 1 hour ago, glenantony said: Just for my clarity - what did Lemon say that he had to retract later? Something about one of medical team calling it off due to rider safety issues.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BenMoran Posted May 28 Report Share Posted May 28 1 hour ago, glenantony said: Just for my clarity - what did Lemon say that he had to retract later? Blamed the postponement squarely at the foot of the Chief Medical Officer rather than the usual agreement of captains and managers. Just a mardy arse comment that’s not shed a good light on him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Sidney Posted May 28 Report Share Posted May 28 1 hour ago, mikebv said: It has always amazed me that clubs don't take on some proper professional marketing people to drive footfall into their stadiums... They will each spend literally hundreds of thousands on their riders each year, who hardly anyone in even the next street will recognise, yet a very minimal amount on actually promoting themselves.. A strange business model.. Given the business background of the Belle Vue owners it's even more surprising Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted May 28 Report Share Posted May 28 2 hours ago, mikebv said: It has always amazed me that clubs don't take on some proper professional marketing people to drive footfall into their stadiums... They will each spend literally hundreds of thousands on their riders each year, who hardly anyone in even the next street will recognise, yet a very minimal amount on actually promoting themselves.. A strange business model.. It’s been done in the past. The simple thing is people don’t like speedway anymore and I find it difficult to disagree with them having gone from 100+ meetings a season to less than 20. Take away the allegiance to a club and it’s a bloody tedious watch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted May 28 Report Share Posted May 28 22 minutes ago, Sir Sidney said: Given the business background of the Belle Vue owners it's even more surprising Especially given nearly 3 million people live within a 45 min car drive, and on the very outskirts of a major city with excellent rail and motorway links.. With a good amount of those living locally having either gone in the past, or being a relative of someone who have gone in the past.. Many clubs (by rules and design) are the only speedway team for a radius of around 30 miles yet get a truly pitiful % of the conurbation around them attending... A huge opportunity for someone surely? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted May 28 Report Share Posted May 28 2 hours ago, Bagpuss said: You need to get out more. Try going to Glasgow, Workington, Redcar, Oxford or Scunthorpe for example. Broaden your horizons a little. We need to drop down then. Top tire Oxford is nothing to write home about from experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted May 28 Report Share Posted May 28 Just now, ouch said: It’s been done in the past. The simple thing is people don’t like speedway anymore and I find it difficult to disagree with them having gone from 100+ meetings a season to less than 20. Take away the allegiance to a club and it’s a bloody tedious watch. Almost 3 million live within a 45 min drive... If you cannot get 3,000 of them to attend (doesn't have to be the same 3,000 each week), then you might as well give up.. Just 0.1% of the populace... Surely someone with a bit of capability in creating some hype could get more people there given the huge amount of potential? And, given so few meetings now, even more of an opportunity to make every meeting a "stand alone" event.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralMelchett Posted May 28 Report Share Posted May 28 2 hours ago, Bagpuss said: You need to get out more. Try going to Glasgow, Workington, Redcar, Oxford or Scunthorpe for example. Broaden your horizons a little. Only been to Scunny once but from memory its a cracking racetrack! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted May 28 Report Share Posted May 28 17 minutes ago, ouch said: We need to drop down then. Top tire Oxford is nothing to write home about from experience. Could race on a Friday or a Saturday too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted May 28 Report Share Posted May 28 17 minutes ago, mikebv said: Could race on a Friday or a Saturday too... oh no no no. The mafia dictates the race day. Mildenhall have been told Sunday or nothing if they are to enter the CL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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