Fromafar Posted May 14 Report Share Posted May 14 14 minutes ago, tyler42 said: Have you seen Woofys scores in Poland? 4, 4, 2 He might be looking for a new team soon !! He will certainly be looking for one next season.IMO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BenMoran Posted May 14 Report Share Posted May 14 1 hour ago, TTT said: Then Edwards will have to be sacrificed instead of Gilkes then. Would Kerr and Etheridge fit for Howarth and Edwards. No, only got around 8.45 points for two riders if you take out Howarth and Edwards as the team average for May bang on the 40.00 point marker, Kerr and Howarth’s averages very similar but Etheridge over Edwards’ 3.00 points average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted May 14 Report Share Posted May 14 16 minutes ago, 4BM said: No, only got around 8.45 points for two riders if you take out Howarth and Edwards as the team average for May bang on the 40.00 point marker, Kerr and Howarth’s averages very similar but Etheridge over Edwards’ 3.00 points average. Isnt Kerr going back to Oxford when fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted May 14 Report Share Posted May 14 2 hours ago, DaveWayne said: So straight forward in the rules that you announced him before 1st leg of semi but he didn't race until 2nd leg, after your club got lawyers involved ? The 2 scenarios were completely different and everyone knows it. He rode we won end of simple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveWayne Posted May 14 Report Share Posted May 14 30 minutes ago, AceBelle said: He rode we won end of simple Just like Woffinden in 2016 that your fans cried about for the next 5 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShanoXtra Posted May 14 Report Share Posted May 14 Tai just acts like everyone should bow down to him. I don’t like his attitude at all. Who has a kid then swears on live TV in front of children. Grade A idiot. Mind you, that’s half of the Sheffield team. Good job they got done last night. Must have pained tai to say Ipswich were the better side!! only person I got time for is Steady, Pickering and Edward’s. Sometimes being down to earth and not arrogant stands for a lot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted May 14 Report Share Posted May 14 12 minutes ago, Shano101 said: Tai just acts like everyone should bow down to him. I don’t like his attitude at all. Who has a kid then swears on live TV in front of children. Grade A idiot. Mind you, that’s half of the Sheffield team. Good job they got done last night. Must have pained tai to say Ipswich were the better side!! only person I got time for is Steady, Pickering and Edward’s. Sometimes being down to earth and not arrogant stands for a lot. Maths is not your strong point I see. Still trying to think of a time that Kyle Howarth and Dan Gilkes have said or done something that could be classed as arrogant or controversial. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted May 14 Report Share Posted May 14 56 minutes ago, DaveWayne said: Just like Woffinden in 2016 that your fans cried about for the next 5 years. you are still crying from last night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted May 14 Report Share Posted May 14 4 hours ago, DaveWayne said: So straight forward in the rules that you announced him before 1st leg of semi but he didn't race until 2nd leg, after your club got lawyers involved ? The 2 scenarios were completely different and everyone knows it. The rule book is ignored to suit teams on many occasions. You cannot have a facility for a rider that is yet to ride for you but it’s often ignored. You cannot use an assessed average rider as a guest but it happened. You can stop a rider being included in a team even if the rules state he can ride - if you know the right people. I could go on. The fact it takes lawyers to force a sport to ride by its own rule book tells us all we need to know about this once great sport of ours and why it’s dead in the water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted May 14 Report Share Posted May 14 11 hours ago, 4BM said: I think once Jason went into the 1-6 that means in effect he opted out of the RS scheme, so even if Sheffield dropped Gilkes then can’t replace him with Edwards and bring in another non RS for the number 6 slot, might have been told info on this If true, I think that's a terrible ruling. Rather than commend a young Brit for trying to improve himself out of the RS berth, they put a block on him dropping down (if it's needed). What if Sheffield dropped him & Howarth for a double change, means he'd likely have to sit out the rest of the campaign as there'd be clubs wanting to use him as RS, but not at number 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted May 14 Report Share Posted May 14 10 hours ago, Hooky said: We all know Mr Bates will be able to manipulate this somehow Zischke in on a 3.00 Edwards down to RS Janowski in for Howarth Foreigners (Zischke) have a minimum 4.00 average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTFC LION Posted May 14 Report Share Posted May 14 43 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: If true, I think that's a terrible ruling. Rather than commend a young Brit for trying to improve himself out of the RS berth, they put a block on him dropping down (if it's needed). What if Sheffield dropped him & Howarth for a double change, means he'd likely have to sit out the rest of the campaign as there'd be clubs wanting to use him as RS, but not at number 6. It's not a terrible ruling, pre season all clubs had the opportunity to keep their RS from the previous season, 4 clubs decided to to do this , KL, Sheff, Ipswich, BV, Leicester RS average was to high so couldn't be used, As Oxford and Birmingham were new in the league they would get first and second choice from the list, Leicester getting last choice. As sheffield signed Jason that effectively took him off the list as the other 3 clubs could not sign him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted May 14 Report Share Posted May 14 2 hours ago, szkocjasid said: If true, I think that's a terrible ruling. Rather than commend a young Brit for trying to improve himself out of the RS berth, they put a block on him dropping down (if it's needed). What if Sheffield dropped him & Howarth for a double change, means he'd likely have to sit out the rest of the campaign as there'd be clubs wanting to use him as RS, but not at number 6. 2 hours ago, BTFC LION said: It's not a terrible ruling, pre season all clubs had the opportunity to keep their RS from the previous season, 4 clubs decided to to do this , KL, Sheff, Ipswich, BV, Leicester RS average was to high so couldn't be used, As Oxford and Birmingham were new in the league they would get first and second choice from the list, Leicester getting last choice. As sheffield signed Jason that effectively took him off the list as the other 3 clubs could not sign him. You could argue Sheffield weakened Leicester & Oxford by removing a strong RS from the list. Now if they dropped him, these clubs can't sign Edwards, so Sheffield still gain. How is that in the best interest of British Speedway / or an improving young Brit like Edwards? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted May 15 Report Share Posted May 15 He’s not off the list. https://www.scbgb.co.uk/risingstars 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveWayne Posted May 15 Report Share Posted May 15 12 hours ago, AceBelle said: you are still crying from last night No crying here. Beaten by the better team on the night. Ipswich last year were a 2 man team away from home (3 if King performed), but have done a good job of filling the gaps this season and look to be the strongest all round team in the league. Sheffield have taken a gamble of being top heavy with 3 big heat leaders, but still need good back up from Pickering, Howarth and Edwards. The loss of Edwards cost us 3 or 4 points, and Howarth is currently underperforming. On a different night we could have won by 6-8 points but it wasn't to be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted May 15 Report Share Posted May 15 3 minutes ago, DaveWayne said: No crying here. Beaten by the better team on the night. Ipswich last year were7 a 2 man team away from home (3 if King performed), but have done a good job of filling the gaps this season and look to be the strongest all round team in the league. Sheffield have taken a gamble of being top heavy with 3 big heat leaders, but still need good back up from Pickering, Howarth and Edwards. The loss of Edwards cost us 3 or 4 points, and Howarth is currently underperforming. On a different night we could have won by 6-8 points but it wasn't to be. It's but's maybe's for all teams Aces comfortably beat Ipswich on aggregate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveWayne Posted May 15 Report Share Posted May 15 30 minutes ago, AceBelle said: It's but's maybe's for all teams Aces comfortably beat Ipswich on aggregate? Comfortably ? 8 points and Doyle missed both matches. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted May 15 Report Share Posted May 15 14 hours ago, szkocjasid said: If true, I think that's a terrible ruling. Rather than commend a young Brit for trying to improve himself out of the RS berth, they put a block on him dropping down (if it's needed). What if Sheffield dropped him & Howarth for a double change, means he'd likely have to sit out the rest of the campaign as there'd be clubs wanting to use him as RS, but not at number 6. It's not true. Edwards and Gilkes are both Rising Stars: https://britishspeedway.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/2024-Rising-Stars-iss2.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP78 Posted May 15 Report Share Posted May 15 1 hour ago, Roger Jacobs said: It's not true. Edwards and Gilkes are both Rising Stars: https://britishspeedway.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/2024-Rising-Stars-iss2.pdf I don't have the knowledge of the rulebook that a lot of you have so bear with me, but the document is dated 5th March 2024... Was Sheffield's team ratified by the league before or after that date? If after then there is every possibility that a new list needs to be issued (this may have been overlooked?) and perhaps Edwards won't be on it? Genuinely don't know, so not stirring, just asking the question really... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted May 15 Report Share Posted May 15 59 minutes ago, MP78 said: I don't have the knowledge of the rulebook that a lot of you have so bear with me, but the document is dated 5th March 2024... Was Sheffield's team ratified by the league before or after that date? If after then there is every possibility that a new list needs to be issued (this may have been overlooked?) and perhaps Edwards won't be on it? Genuinely don't know, so not stirring, just asking the question really... Anders Rowe was on the RS list at the start of the 2021 season. Ipswich signed Drew Kemp as their RS and Anders as their other reserve. Anders guested for Sheffield in place of their RS Josh Bates and when I queried it stating Anders was no longer an RS, they said he was on the list at the start so he stays an RS. Anders average was 5.49 which dwarfed Bates’ figure (He finished on 2.67). His paid 6 secured a narrow 2 point win for the Tigers. It could have been another of those Belle Vue/Bates things and Edwards might well no longer be an RS. https://britishspeedway.co.uk/2021-rising-stars/ https://britishspeedway.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/p21_issue_10.pdf https://britishspeedway.co.uk/2021-rider-statistics/ https://britishspeedway.co.uk/21results/sheffield_01.07.21_res.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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