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What a meeting. Thank God I live in Glasgow, not Plymouth. It’s a blessing to see racing of that calibre.

Pickering was frightening. Given how poor he was in heat one of the original rained off meeting (on the wrong end of a 5-1), that was an incredible performance. I take no pleasure in saying this, but that’s up there with the best visiting performance I’ve ever seen, anywhere. He earned every single win.

Another underwhelming home performance though. Changes must be on the cards.

It was an improvement from Worrall, but when it mattered (heats 13 and 15), he took one from a possible six. I can’t help but feel he owes us more after last week.

Starke, wow. What’s going on? Outrageously poor. Flint too; his win in heat 12 flattered his points tally for the evening.

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26 minutes ago, TheWellBehavedWorrall said:

What a meeting. Thank God I live in Glasgow, not Plymouth. It’s a blessing to see racing of that calibre.

Pickering was frightening. Given how poor he was in heat one of the original rained off meeting (on the wrong end of a 5-1), that was an incredible performance. I take no pleasure in saying this, but that’s up there with the best visiting performance I’ve ever seen, anywhere. He earned every single win.

Another underwhelming home performance though. Changes must be on the cards.

It was an improvement from Worrall, but when it mattered (heats 13 and 15), he took one from a possible six. I can’t help but feel he owes us more after last week.

Starke, wow. What’s going on? Outrageously poor. Flint too; his win in heat 12 flattered his points tally for the evening.

He was coming from gate 4, which was never going to work for him.

Why we insist on taking 1&3 rather than either 2&4, or better, heat 15 (as the visitors would almost always choose 1&3) is beyond me. It cost us in heat 13 where we needed it, and why Bomber went off the inside in 15 is a mystery. 

When Worrall went off 2 in the Super Heat, he won it.

And don't get me started on the transponders. Fair enough, the ref has to accept what they say, but they're wrong too often. Everyone knew Bomber got third, Gerry even got the drone operator to rewind the footage.

Thankfully, it doesn't matter for the BSN Series... We needed to win at Armadale either way, which seems unlikely.

Starke has been shocking, this isn't a playoff team. Workington will spank us, I think.

Fun meeting though!

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21 minutes ago, Noelinho said:

He was coming from gate 4, which was never going to work for him.

Why we insist on taking 1&3 rather than either 2&4, or better, heat 15 (as the visitors would almost always choose 1&3) is beyond me. It cost us in heat 13 where we needed it, and why Bomber went off the inside in 15 is a mystery. 

When Worrall went off 2 in the Super Heat, he won it.

And don't get me started on the transponders. Fair enough, the ref has to accept what they say, but they're wrong too often. Everyone knew Bomber got third, Gerry even got the drone operator to rewind the footage.

Thankfully, it doesn't matter for the BSN Series... We needed to win at Armadale either way, which seems unlikely.

Starke has been shocking, this isn't a playoff team. Workington will spank us, I think.

Fun meeting though!

How can the transponders be wrong? Also if they are often wrong, why are they being used?

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7 hours ago, szkocjasid said:

How can the transponders be wrong? Also if they are often wrong, why are they being used?

What part of the bike has to cross the line to determine a riders finish? The front tyre?  Where is the transponder fitted? The two are in different places and consequently can produce different results. .

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7 hours ago, Noelinho said:

He was coming from gate 4, which was never going to work for him.

Why we insist on taking 1&3 rather than either 2&4, or better, heat 15 (as the visitors would almost always choose 1&3) is beyond me. It cost us in heat 13 where we needed it, and why Bomber went off the inside in 15 is a mystery. 

When Worrall went off 2 in the Super Heat, he won it.

And don't get me started on the transponders. Fair enough, the ref has to accept what they say, but they're wrong too often. Everyone knew Bomber got third, Gerry even got the drone operator to rewind the footage.

Thankfully, it doesn't matter for the BSN Series... We needed to win at Armadale either way, which seems unlikely.

Starke has been shocking, this isn't a playoff team. Workington will spank us, I think.

Fun meeting though!

Starke was a good guest at workington last week very Sharpe out the gate 

If hes poor today then maybe the answer is in team spirit or team setup rather than rider 

 

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Regardless of who finished in what order in the super heat don’t think anyone who was there last night can deny that Edinburgh were the more solid outfit.

For me they just shaded it on the night and deserved what turned out to be a well deserved win.

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27 minutes ago, Gazc said:

Regardless of who finished in what order in the super heat don’t think anyone who was there last night can deny that Edinburgh were the more solid outfit.

For me they just shaded it on the night and deserved what turned out to be a well deserved win.

Just a pity their own fans don't think that last night must have been one of the lowest Monarchs visiting support I can remember their used to pack out the fourth bend 

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29 minutes ago, scaramanga said:

Starke was a good guest at workington last week very Sharpe out the gate 

If hes poor today then maybe the answer is in team spirit or team setup rather than rider 

 

I would go with the smoke pouring out the back of his bike in heat 1 last week, or engine giving up heat 3 this week as equipment issues not team set up.

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37 minutes ago, Beirao said:

What part of the bike has to cross the line to determine a riders finish? The front tyre?  Where is the transponder fitted? The two are in different places and consequently can produce different results. .

That's an interesting question.

There must be an SCB/FIM determined position for transponders, which you'd think the machine examiner would need to double check.

I wasn't in line.

I'm on the 3rd bend, but I thought Harris got 3rd.

Before being accused of wearing red tinted specs, I also thought Smith lost a 3rd in an earlier heat too. 

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55 minutes ago, Gazc said:

Regardless of who finished in what order in the super heat don’t think anyone who was there last night can deny that Edinburgh were the more solid outfit.

For me they just shaded it on the night and deserved what turned out to be a well deserved win.

Yes, their 1-5 were good last night.

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31 minutes ago, Cast1rn said:

I would go with the smoke pouring out the back of his bike in heat 1 last week, or engine giving up heat 3 this week as equipment issues not team set up.

Starke has a reputation for having bang average equipment, and 9 time's outta 10 comes out on summit no faster than a lawnmower or sounding like a bag of nails.

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9 hours ago, TheWellBehavedWorrall said:

 

Pickering was frightening. Given how poor he was in heat one of the original rained off meeting (on the wrong end of a 5-1), that was an incredible performance. I take no pleasure in saying this, but that’s up there with the best visiting performance I’ve ever seen, anywhere. He earned every single win.

I listened to his interview on the EMTV podcast before the meeting and he was so positive and up for this meeting that it was scary. He's on another level this season but it was his comments about the current Edinburgh team which intrigued me. He has so much confidence in them and that seems to be filtering throughout the team to good effect. This result confirms this.

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38 minutes ago, Jaizer said:

Really not all that bothered about the result as the fans were definitely the winner with the level of racing.

However, the riders need to stop coming out with this I'm going to go to next level crap. Worrall at start of season and flint yesterday. If you can't beat castagna and lasse round your home track then you're no going to any next level! 

The only rider that's gone up any sort of level is James.

The rest should stay well in their boxes until they can bang in a double digit score.

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39 minutes ago, Jaizer said:

Really not all that bothered about the result as the fans were definitely the winner with the level of racing.

However, the riders need to stop coming out with this I'm going to go to next level crap. Worrall at start of season and flint yesterday. If you can't beat castagna and lasse round your home track then you're no going to any next level! 

Would agree the level of racing is always great,it is a brilliant track now.As a neutral it’s is worth the admission money alone.

 

 

 

 

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57 minutes ago, Joseq7 said:

That's an interesting question.

There must be an SCB/FIM determined position for transponders, which you'd think the machine examiner would need to double check.

I wasn't in line.

I'm on the 3rd bend, but I thought Harris got 3rd.

Before being accused of wearing red tinted specs, I also thought Smith lost a 3rd in an earlier heat too. 

I was near the line on the home straight and also thought Harris had at least nicked third. The subsequent announcement surprised me.

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8 minutes ago, Cast1rn said:

The only rider that's gone up any sort of level is James.

The rest should stay well in their boxes until they can bang in a double digit score.

It's not all doom and gloom though for the Tigers if JP maintains his third heat leader scores and Flint ups his game. If this happens then Glasgow would have four heat leaders and a handy pair of reserves. Not bad at all. 

The season is long.

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All the talk about transponders. Does anyone know if they were actually being used in this meeting?

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1 hour ago, Jaizer said:

Really not all that bothered about the result as the fans were definitely the winner with the level of racing.

However, the riders need to stop coming out with this I'm going to go to next level crap. Worrall at start of season and flint yesterday. If you can't beat castagna and lasse round your home track then you're no going to any next level! 

I think Flint rode exactly the same as he has been, just now he has Pearson instead of Starke riding with him so his points look worse, big test for him to see if he can step up. Worrall looks very good when he makes the gate, if he doesn't though he doesn't seem to go forward.

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