Lee Complin

[IainB]

2 hours ago, Lioness said:

Hows it the chemists fault?  Every time someone goes in to ask for benadryl for a cold do you think the pharmacist should come out and interrogate them aboutwhether they intend to ride speedway?  The pharmacist is more than happy enough to advise but it is Lee who has to ask about it.  They have no legal right to refuse to sell him it unless abuse is suspected

 

Actually pharmacists can and do offer advice to customers, sometimes whether the customer has asked for it or not. My local pharmacist has recently refused to sell my old mum some over the counter cough medicine and indigestion medicine due to potential side effects... she just goes to Tesco instead and gets her stuff from there now! But you're right it's nobody's fault but Lee’s.

Edited May 21 by iainb

[Technik]

4 hours ago, Noelinho said:

One thing I don't quite understand is, previously we have been told what the rider tested positive for after the hearing, but we don't seem to have been told this time?

They have said he will need test's done using his hair. This would indicate a smoking habit, Hair samples are a normal way to test for recreational use of morrocan woodbines.

[Fromafar]

4 hours ago, j2ohh said:

it will have been a substance that leaves a trace of a BANNED substance and lee with all the knowledge of bannned medication should know about ! also the chemist that sold lee the stuff should have refused or told lee of the side effects and told the person about any side effects . its common knowledge amonst the riders in todays sport , THE END.

Maybe he didn’t buy it from Chemist.!!

[Kerryxo]

11 hours ago, Bandit59 said:

See above post 

I make no apologies for not being a sun buyer/reader . In seriousness, his social media platforms have all been active and regularly updated until now.

[Kerryxo]

I'm not sure if everyone's aware of this or not - if over the counter meds, such as co-codamol, I expect Lee would have recieved a nice wee statement rather than a ban....

https://www.scbgb.co.uk/news.php?extend.83

[rearingtogo]

On 5/21/2024 at 7:24 AM, Bandit59 said:

Interview in Sun with Phil Lanning still trying to say it was all over the counter prescription drugs he took obviously not.

Could be true, remember the post office was selling dodgy stamps a while ago it was on the one show watchdog

[RoundTheBoards]

14 hours ago, Fromafar said:

Maybe he didn’t buy it from Chemist.!!

Suppose that depends on your definition of "Chemist".      Walter White was a chemist.

[Fromafar]

10 minutes ago, RoundTheBoards said:

Suppose that depends on your definition of "Chemist".      Walter White was a chemist.

He was indeed.!!

[SJA]

14 hours ago, Technik said:

They have said he will need test's done using his hair. This would indicate a smoking habit, Hair samples are a normal way to test for recreational use of morrocan woodbines.

I think you are on the wrong continent; I would be looking towards South America as the specified hair test is usually to find marching powder. Out of blood within 5 days but stays in hair for 90.

[gazzac]

1 hour ago, RoundTheBoards said:

Suppose that depends on your definition of "Chemist".      Walter White was a chemist.

I'm a chemist...... just made a cup of coffee and doing a lunch shortly.

[scaramanga]

5 hours ago, SJA said:

I think you are on the wrong continent; I would be looking towards South America as the specified hair test is usually to find marching powder. Out of blood within 5 days but stays in hair for 90.

Can test for some things for longer that 3 month 

Can also get a good idea of certain things for almost the time since hair last cut to that part 

Some not legally binding but a good indication

[Fromafar]

4 hours ago, gazzac said:

I'm a chemist...... just made a cup of coffee and doing a lunch shortly.

Your no Walter White then.!!

[IainB]

What happens if you use "product" or dye or bleach your hair? Do you go for back, sack or crack?

[j2ohh]

6 hours ago, gazzac said:

I'm a chemist...... just made a cup of coffee and doing a lunch shortly.

i thought a chemist had to  have brains and had to get on with other members of the human race .

[bringbackHalifax]

If he took over the counter meds for toothache, what’s different to him and Kyle. Both about to race in a meeting whilst under the influence of a banned substance.

If he took over the counter meds, why is his ban 2.5 times longer than Ritchie’s.

Lets not even fetch up the Barker saga, which if someone fishes long enough under freedom of information, etc could highlight some more inconsistencies.

if he took over the counter meds for toothache , hopefully the toothache will have gone by the time his ban is up, why have hair analysed before he can come back.

Something fishy. Something stinks.

[MillenTheVillen]

26 minutes ago, bringbackHalifax said:

If he took over the counter meds for toothache, what’s different to him and Kyle. Both about to race in a meeting whilst under the influence of a banned substance.

If he took over the counter meds, why is his ban 2.5 times longer than Ritchie’s.

Lets not even fetch up the Barker saga, which if someone fishes long enough under freedom of information, etc could highlight some more inconsistencies.

if he took over the counter meds for toothache , hopefully the toothache will have gone by the time his ban is up, why have hair analysed before he can come back.

Something fishy. Something stinks.

Kyle's was prescribed by hospital for a racing injury and could be traced back to source, no trace from Dentists could be found for Lee's allegedly.

Both Worrall and Complin have to submit hair tests prior to applying for Licence - 1 was found guilty of coke metabolites/ the other hasn't had his made known to public.

Take what you want from the "over the counter medicine" for the mouth but something other than over the counter meds has to have been found that requires hair samples to prove he's clear.

[Fromafar]

He got caught.End off.

[Gazc]

2 hours ago, Fromafar said:

He got caught.End off.

This all day long and let a lot of people down in the process.

[Noelinho]

4 hours ago, bringbackHalifax said:

If he took over the counter meds for toothache, what’s different to him and Kyle. Both about to race in a meeting whilst under the influence of a banned substance.

If he took over the counter meds, why is his ban 2.5 times longer than Ritchie’s.

Because the post-hearing statement didn’t give as much information as some previous, we all have to just make our own minds up how we fill the gaps. I’ve certainly made my mind up, whether accurate or not.

[Lioness]

On 5/21/2024 at 7:25 PM, iainb said:

Actually pharmacists can and do offer advice to customers, sometimes whether the customer has asked for it or not. My local pharmacist has recently refused to sell my old mum some over the counter cough medicine and indigestion medicine due to potential side effects... she just goes to Tesco instead and gets her stuff from there now! But you're right it's nobody's fault but Lee’s.

I think you are mis understanding my point.  Of course pharmacists offer advice.  For example if someone comes in for OTC cough medicine, we ask if they are on any other medication.  Its not that we are being nosey, we are being responsible as cough and cold remedies tend to affect the potency of other medication, particularly heart, blood thinners and respiratory medications (but not exclusively).  If someone discloses they are on such a medication we legally cannot sell them it as we know it could cause harm.  If a Dr prescribes it then thats different (although to be honest we would often give them a quick phone call to check too - thats a pharmacists job). 

That is totally different from someone riding speedway asking about banned medications but personally I would be more concerned at someone buying medication from a supermarket that a pharmacist has flagged as a possible problem than basically saying 'oh well I'll just go to a supermarket'.  I mean these check out girls know as much as people who have done 4/5 years study and exams followed by regular professional monitoring....