Fromafar Posted May 4 Report Share Posted May 4 (edited) Excluding Bastion who gives 110% for 4 laps every race.How do explain riders who win races then lose races by 1/4 of a lap.Just asking.!(I am assuming it’s just the “set-up” excuse) Edited May 4 by Fromafar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit59 Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 7 hours ago, Fromafar said: Excluding Bastion who gives 110% for 4 laps every race.How do explain riders who win races then lose races by 1/4 of a lap.Just asking.!(I am assuming it’s just the “set-up” excuse) Spot on Hume being an example 2 wins and 2 last places Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparks123 Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 Well done to both teams. I am really confused as when Josh Pickering was racing for Edinburgh and he moved at the start (missed the start), the race was stopped and he was given a warning as it was the rule according to the referee. Josh was moving last night and the referee let the race go and warned him after the race. How is this possible as we were told at the Edinburgh match that a new rule was introduced that didn't allow this to happen (didn't see it in the rulebook). I also thought you couldn't have your back wheel spinning before the tapes go up but I am obviously wrong there as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit59 Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 21 minutes ago, sparks123 said: Well done to both teams. I am really confused as when Josh Pickering was racing for Edinburgh and he moved at the start (missed the start), the race was stopped and he was given a warning as it was the rule according to the referee. Josh was moving last night and the referee let the race go and warned him after the race. How is this possible as we were told at the Edinburgh match that a new rule was introduced that didn't allow this to happen (didn't see it in the rulebook). I also thought you couldn't have your back wheel spinning before the tapes go up but I am obviously wrong there as well. No consistency absolute joke these rules and referees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 14 minutes ago, Bandit59 said: No consistency absolute joke these rules and referees Quite agree, all you want is consistency from referees so we all know where we stand, happens in football all the time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alang Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 9 hours ago, Fromafar said: Excluding Bastion who gives 110% for 4 laps every race.How do explain riders who win races then lose races by 1/4 of a lap.Just asking.!(I am assuming it’s just the “set-up” excuse) Presumably cos when you are riding on a strip of concrete if you gate you win cos nobody can pass you and if you don't gate you don't win cos you can't pass anybody.Before they all come out and say what about Borke that was one race and he had the guts to try 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 (edited) 1 hour ago, alang said: Presumably cos when you are riding on a strip of concrete if you gate you win cos nobody can pass you and if you don't gate you don't win cos you can't pass anybody.Before they all come out and say what about Borke that was one race and he had the guts to try I said that about Lawson! Edited May 5 by foreverblue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Stewart Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 10 hours ago, Fromafar said: How many points did each Team get out of Gates 1-3 matters though,if the were that unequal. who were the stronger Team is also the question. The match is still a contest but it becomes about taking as many points as you can from the good gates, and scrambling for a few crumbs off the bad gates. The course of the match is pretty much pre-determined. The narrative appears to be, on Friday and Saturday, that the home teams started well but Poole fought back. The true story is that the home teams started on the good gates and then had to cope with the bad gates. Individual riders are unlikely to score maximums because they are almost certain to be beaten out of the gate at least a couple of times. How the match would have been had gates been even, no-one can say. It’s not how it should be, and I presume it is accidental, down to weather or other occurrences. It would be a truer test if the gates were even. In both matches the home team had the advantage of choosing in heat 15, Edinburgh taking the win and Berwick just failing to get a draw due to Lawson’s effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 1 minute ago, Al Stewart said: The match is still a contest but it becomes about taking as many points as you can from the good gates, and scrambling for a few crumbs off the bad gates. The course of the match is pretty much pre-determined. The narrative appears to be, on Friday and Saturday, that the home teams started well but Poole fought back. The true story is that the home teams started on the good gates and then had to cope with the bad gates. Individual riders are unlikely to score maximums because they are almost certain to be beaten out of the gate at least a couple of times. How the match would have been had gates been even, no-one can say. It’s not how it should be, and I presume it is accidental, down to weather or other occurrences. It would be a truer test if the gates were even. In both matches the home team had the advantage of choosing in heat 15, Edinburgh taking the win and Berwick just failing to get a draw due to Lawson’s effort. Great ride by Lawson and a good job Poole didnt pick 1 and 3 at the start! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 (edited) 1 hour ago, Al Stewart said: The match is still a contest but it becomes about taking as many points as you can from the good gates, and scrambling for a few crumbs off the bad gates. The course of the match is pretty much pre-determined. The narrative appears to be, on Friday and Saturday, that the home teams started well but Poole fought back. The true story is that the home teams started on the good gates and then had to cope with the bad gates. Individual riders are unlikely to score maximums because they are almost certain to be beaten out of the gate at least a couple of times. How the match would have been had gates been even, no-one can say. It’s not how it should be, and I presume it is accidental, down to weather or other occurrences. It would be a truer test if the gates were even. In both matches the home team had the advantage of choosing in heat 15, Edinburgh taking the win and Berwick just failing to get a draw due to Lawson’s effort. Taking into account the “good” and “Bad “ gates if the track wasn’t super slick there would be more entertainment.Riding the “bags” seems to a reference these days ,is not for everybody. Edited May 5 by Fromafar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackrat Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 13 hours ago, Arthur54 said: That's 2 nights on the trot, no Trackrat Get out more you boring man. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 1 hour ago, foreverblue said: I said that about Lawson! That was Gutsy ride by Lawson to win the match for Poole.At least he could trust Rory to give him a fair race. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackrat Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 52 minutes ago, Trackrat said: Get out more you boring man. By that I mean actually go & not just watch updates, pathetic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 12 minutes ago, Trackrat said: By that I mean actually go & not just watch updates, pathetic. To Berwick? Quite a long way from Poole! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackrat Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 5 minutes ago, foreverblue said: To Berwick? Quite a long way from Poole! Pathetic fan base, doesn’t the ring & ride go that far? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 26 minutes ago, Trackrat said: By that I mean actually go & not just watch updates, pathetic. I'm at Poole every week, working doesn't allow traveling the country every away meeting 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 12 minutes ago, Trackrat said: Pathetic fan base, doesn’t the ring & ride go that far? I get a nose bleed if I go that far north! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 54 minutes ago, foreverblue said: To Berwick? Quite a long way from Poole! But worth every single mile. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackrat Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 1 hour ago, Arthur54 said: I'm at Poole every week, working doesn't allow traveling the country every away meeting Who cares, poor excuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 9 minutes ago, Trackrat said: Who cares, poor excuse. I hope you have been travelling to support them, i no how much you like them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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