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Belle Vue v Ipswich 22nd April


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1 minute ago, Rob B said:

8 years and we have the best track guy in the country, you can’t stop the rain! You can add water but you can’t take it off!!!

You can take dirt off though

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9 minutes ago, iainb said:

NSS getting on for 10 years old now... they should have sussed track prep by now

King's Lynn haven't figured it out after multiple decades, Belle Vue is still a wee nipper, be patient 

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Just now, Rob B said:

Yet better racing in last 2 heats than there was in 15 heats at Leicester last week. 

Not our fault your riders are such homers :D

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12 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said:

Totally disagree with you here. Every case should be treated on its own merit. 

Isn't that called making it up as you go along? Where do you draw the line? That's why there's a rule book so everybody knows where they stand. You could argue that for anything, tape touching, I've seen riders react to camera flashes going off and touching the tapes, unfair, but rules is rules... are you going to have a hearing for every decision that needs to be made? Traffic hold up in this country is okay, traffic hold up in Poland isn't... what if the traffic hold up is in England on the way to Scotland? It never ends 

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This is the problem with speedway in general, riders having team places across Europe and having to rely on public transport to get them from a to b to c to meet the demands of the sport and unfortunately airlines run like buses and trains and are in general unreliable when you have a tight schedule. Riders are not to blame for the failings of planes, air traffic controllers etc. but given that the Poles are in full control of speedway in Europe and dictate the terms, it is not surprising that every other nation has to put up and shut up. Blame the BSPA for the state of the sport as they clamour for top riders at any cost and when it does not work out they blame the individual. If the sport was run on the basis that clubs put on meetings that suit the local market and employ riders who can fully commit to those match days without chasing the inevitable then things might be different. It is all well and good saying that the top riders are tempted back to the UK and it is an improved product but no one has calculated the risk of the non appearance of a rider for circumstances beyond the riders control. BSPA Head in sand as usual. Neither Tungate or Doyle should be penalised, the promoters know the risk and it is them that should carry the can.

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7 minutes ago, Weeyin said:

Hawkins is a tool, replacing Jenkins with Rew, who hasn't scored a point and their top scorer is Dan Thomson, crazy

I don't disagree :D but it's to get his third ride out of the way surely?

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Peter Schroeck said quite clearly while being interviewed in Sunday's Chargers meeting that Tungate attempted to get to another airport and received a speeding ticket in doing so. This should be easy enough to validate during investigation. Already stated that no guest facility was allowed for the missing rider on the night at Ipswich. 

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1 hour ago, scaramanga said:

i was a bit surprised as the 2 are very similar  

but 1 allowed a guest 1 not 

speedway is the looser here not ipswich or oxford 

Both were treated the same.

They were both allowed a 75% no facility guest

Just Oxford couldn't find one.

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3 minutes ago, arnieg said:

Both were treated the same.

They were both allowed a 75% no facility guest

Just Oxford couldn't find one.

Stated on the night that no facility was allowed, said the same yesterday at the Chargers home meeting.  If a facility was allowed, why not just say they could not get anybody, rather than lie. 

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NSS is a lovely set up and a nice track which has been great for British Speedway. But it’s a typical soulless modern GP style track. More overtaking on the straights then in the bend and is entirely reliant on who has the best equipment and set up. 
 

understandably set up for their top riders who are track specialists to dominate 

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Just now, Hilly said:

Stated on the night that no facility was allowed, said the same yesterday at the Chargers home meeting. 

The normal facility wasn’t allowed, the 75% guest was allowed and Oxford stated that. 

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Just now, Hilly said:

Stated on the night that no facility was allowed, said the same yesterday at the Chargers home meeting. 

The two situations were different.

No facility at Ipswich means a 75% guest (as Ipswich has tonight), but

No facility on Sunday in the NDL meant a 3.00 unattached rider (Spooner not having ridden this season for the Chargers)

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