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Belle Vue v Ipswich 22nd April


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1 minute ago, Wolfie456 said:

Doesn't matter still had more time than Doyle to get back here if he could be arsed.

Leicester are riding on Thursday night, I live just over a mile away... should I set out now?

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19 minutes ago, iainb said:

Doyley could have picked it up for him... oh hang on...

So whatever happened to Tungate was in his control. 

Possibly, because he said "heavy traffic" delayed him getting to the airport, if you have a plane to get you should assume heavy traffic/accidents/etc and leave home earlier than needed, it might mean sitting around in an airport lounge but at least you wouldn't need to use lame excuses for missing a plane.

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7 minutes ago, iainb said:

Leicester are riding on Thursday night, I live just over a mile away... should I set out now?

That would depend on the traffic I would suggest keep checking the traffic reports and adjust your journey accordingly, common sense really.

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41 minutes ago, iainb said:

Doyley could have picked it up for him... oh hang on...

So whatever happened to Tungate was in his control. 

This is definitely great news for Ipswich - like the SCB no further comment needed!

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50 minutes ago, Wolfie456 said:

Yes because that little prat had 3 or 4 days to get back to UK.

Was not aware of that time difference so that makes sense for the difference in the 'punishments'!

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Common sense regarding Jason Doyle.

Jason suffered a loss of earnings.

Ipswich had to field a weakened team for an away fixture.

Club and rider suffered enough without further punishment. 

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19 hours ago, Hawk127 said:

This is the problem with speedway in general, riders having team places across Europe and having to rely on public transport to get them from a to b to c to meet the demands of the sport and unfortunately airlines run like buses and trains and are in general unreliable when you have a tight schedule. Riders are not to blame for the failings of planes, air traffic controllers etc. but given that the Poles are in full control of speedway in Europe and dictate the terms, it is not surprising that every other nation has to put up and shut up. Blame the BSPA for the state of the sport as they clamour for top riders at any cost and when it does not work out they blame the individual. If the sport was run on the basis that clubs put on meetings that suit the local market and employ riders who can fully commit to those match days without chasing the inevitable then things might be different. It is all well and good saying that the top riders are tempted back to the UK and it is an improved product but no one has calculated the risk of the non appearance of a rider for circumstances beyond the riders control. BSPA Head in sand as usual. Neither Tungate or Doyle should be penalised, the promoters know the risk and it is them that should carry the can.

Dont understand this at all .Riders are always on a tight deadline to make meetings and are only a  plane being delay from missing a match . A plane on a sat night or Sunday after a Gp can stop someone getting to a match in Poland.. its Part of the Sport not much anyone can do about it..Tungate got a ban as quite clearly he could and should have made the meeting in the opinion of the BSPA.

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I don’t see any real reason for us to make changes yet. Belle Vue is somewhere we’re always poor at currently top of the league with one defeat.

once the averages change if Jenkins & Rew don’t  get going then maybe time to change.

 

currently very happy especially as Emil hasn’t got going yet equipment issues I understand.

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I’d have expected Rew to have pushed on by now but he still seems to be making basic errors and throwing points away.  I think Jenkins deserves more time given he has been elevated to the main body of the team due to Rew dropping down in what is a more competitive league than last year.  I like the look of Tate Zischke at Workington but it would be a punt bringing him in and expecting consistency.

 

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5 hours ago, hammer1969 said:

Possibly, because he said "heavy traffic" delayed him getting to the airport, if you have a plane to get you should assume heavy traffic/accidents/etc and leave home earlier than needed, it might mean sitting around in an airport lounge but at least you wouldn't need to use lame excuses for missing a plane.

Is the correct answer

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5 hours ago, hammer1969 said:

Possibly, because he said "heavy traffic" delayed him getting to the airport, if you have a plane to get you should assume heavy traffic/accidents/etc and leave home earlier than needed, it might mean sitting around in an airport lounge but at least you wouldn't need to use lame excuses for missing a plane.

Exactly right. As I said yesterday, those trying to compare the two were comparing Apples with Oranges. One plane took off on time, one plane didn’t leave the ground. Genuinely can’t believe one or two idiots on here were calling for Doyle to get a ban! What did you want him to do? Sprout a couple of wings and fly over himself?

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1 hour ago, cowboy cookie returns? said:

I don’t see any real reason for us to make changes yet. Belle Vue is somewhere we’re always poor at currently top of the league with one defeat.

once the averages change if Jenkins & Rew don’t  get going then maybe time to change.

 

currently very happy especially as Emil hasn’t got going yet equipment issues I understand.

Problem with waiting for the averages to change first is you probably can’t change anyone to re-declare the 1-7 collectively under the limit. Ipswich are already over by the looks of it. All you can then do is change a rider for another with the same or lower average individually. Jenkins for example, has a current average over 4, so you could in theory swap him out now for Ben Barker in a straight swap. Wait until the average change, and that swap might not be possible and you lose your chance due to Jenkins average going south. 
 

TTT was correct in what he said earlier, Ipswich could and SHOULD have won the title last year. All they needed to do was change a rider who was ill and not performing anywhere near his capabilities. Why they didn’t make that change only they know, but it cost them. Ipswich make some very frustrating and baffling decisions at times when it comes to team building. Last year Kemp and Rowe were sitting there waiting to be picked up as a rising star, and some bright spark at Ipswich decided to go for Joe Thompson! Who made that decision to go with a clearly inferior option and why?

They always seem to build a great looking team two thirds of the way through, and then ruin it by signing a duffer or two to finish the team that they ended up having to carry. Yes if you’re going to go top heavy then averages dictate that you’ll be weaker lower down, but even this year due to Jenkins getting the 25% reduction they ended up a point under the limit and didn’t take advantage. They build good teams, but they could and probably should be building even better than they do. Don’t hold on to underperforming riders too long if you have title aspirations because you can bet your last Rolo, that your rivals won’t . Still no title in either league for Louis junior on his CV, despite great backing from very good sponsors. 

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