Beirao Posted April 20 Report Share Posted April 20 8 hours ago, Gazc said: Was surprised that we never asked about Borke as it was clear he couldn’t get to grips with Armadale. From memory he was very impressive at Glasgow last season and again tonight. Berwick have won a watch getting him this season, Kemp very impressive also it was the heat leaders that let them down tonight. With a Dane free policy for 2024, he was never an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted April 20 Report Share Posted April 20 (edited) 9 hours ago, Neila said: Referees are allowed to give extra time to riders who have 2 races on the trot or have bike issues due to incidents, but 4 minutes between races is the new rule 012.1.3 2 Minute Time Allowance Except when the Referee considers that there are valid reasons for delaying the start of an ensuing heat, the interval between the finish of one heat and the start of the next shall not exceed 4 minutes including the 2 minute allowance. I'm pretty sure that 2 consecutive rides does not constitute a valid reason for delaying the start, unless the rider has damaged his bike in his previous ride or something similar , of course this does leave it open to interpretation from the ref. I have heard it announced over the PA in previous seasons that the referee has left the maximum amount of time and all riders are on 2 minutes, so I don't think it's anything new. Edited April 20 by iainb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted April 20 Report Share Posted April 20 8 hours ago, szkocjasid said: Borke did his job as a reserve, no question about that. You say "Ethridge lost to riders he was expected to beat" do you really think Etheridge was expected to beat Harris, Worrall or Vissing? I can't imagine anyone expecting that. It’s not about expecting to lose though is it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cast1rn Posted April 20 Report Share Posted April 20 2 hours ago, MD said: I wouldn't expect travel expenses to be an issue, its got to be something else. Last year we were flying in Marcin, Claus and Basso. And who are we flying in this year? Nobody, they must be saving a fortune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Posted April 20 Report Share Posted April 20 15 minutes ago, Cast1rn said: And who are we flying in this year? Nobody, they must be saving a fortune. They might be but if they had to fly someone in they would, and could. Its a choice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tapeworm Posted April 20 Report Share Posted April 20 "Starke was gating, but Christ there was no speed in his bike on the straights and he was having to ride defensive alllllllll night." I don't pretend to be an expert but is that not a simple matter of selecting the correct gearing? Correct balance to be struck between fast acceleration (gating) and top speed down the straights? Surely his team captain or more-experienced riders can offer advice on the most beneficial settings for the new Ashfield track? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWellBehavedWorrall Posted April 20 Report Share Posted April 20 That was a good win against a a decent Berwick side. It’s worth pondering the outcome, had Flint been available. Would he have scored as many as Vissing? Doubtful, but then again, if Complin was available, I’m confident he’d have scored more than Hagon’s four. Starke looked slow, so credit where it’s due; his five, paid eight was an achievement. Borke is a rider. I can’t imagine he’ll be at reserve for long. Berwick have a great talent on their hands there. There was some great racing on show last night. Lots of passing and lots of tussling, so fair play to both sets of riders. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted April 20 Report Share Posted April 20 1 hour ago, Tapeworm said: "Starke was gating, but Christ there was no speed in his bike on the straights and he was having to ride defensive alllllllll night." I don't pretend to be an expert but is that not a simple matter of selecting the correct gearing? Correct balance to be struck between fast acceleration (gating) and top speed down the straights? Surely his team captain or more-experienced riders can offer advice on the most beneficial settings for the new Ashfield track? No It’s Not quite as simple as that he did say he is bringing another engine up for next week 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted April 20 Report Share Posted April 20 Starkey played a huge part in the engine room last night , his track craft made sure he got into the positions he needed to be. I have no concerns he will be fine albeit he was riding with Vissing who he was able to let clear off and only look after himself. This will not be the case with Flint we’re he may need to protect Flint more until he gets dialled in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragdoll64 Posted April 20 Report Share Posted April 20 (edited) 21 minutes ago, mac101 said: No It’s Not quite as simple as that he did say he is bringing another engine up for next week Agree………and another of his problems seems to be the line and speed he’s using at bends 1 and 2….resulting on him tightening up and not getting his wheels in line quickly enough on exiting bend 2 and therefore scrubbing off speed. Also……re. his bike’s speed ……it would be interesting to see Harris have a go on it…… Edited April 20 by ragdoll64 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted April 20 Report Share Posted April 20 6 minutes ago, Gazc said: Starkey played a huge part in the engine room last night , his track craft made sure he got into the positions he needed to be. I have no concerns he will be fine albeit he was riding with Vissing who he was able to let clear off and only look after himself. This will not be the case with Flint we’re he may need to protect Flint more until he gets dialled in. His last ride he team rode with sam to not leave him vulnerable to Borke keeping the score 3-3 Borke who would have maybe could have passed sam and give them a 4.2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tapeworm Posted April 20 Report Share Posted April 20 57 minutes ago, mac101 said: No It’s Not quite as simple as that he did say he is bringing another engine up for next week But, if he was gating successfully, that would suggest that there was little wrong with the power/torque being produced by that engine so a different engine might not be the solution. Perhaps ragdoll's theory about his exit technique, and speed, coming out of bends 2 and 4 reveals the real cause of a reduced speed down the straights? Again, if so, this is something with which he could be helped by a more-experienced teammate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j2ohh Posted April 20 Report Share Posted April 20 SO, what happened to the football team that was in on the green ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted April 20 Report Share Posted April 20 3 minutes ago, j2ohh said: SO, what happened to the football team that was in on the green ? Moved to Sepford Football Centre on Edinburgh Road. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelinho Posted April 20 Report Share Posted April 20 On the gearing front, it’s correct that gearing affects the speed vs acceleration, but it’s still all relative to the performance of the engine itself. Starke did much better last night (and nothing broke!), but he’ll be found wanting against some other opposition unless he finds more speed. But it was an improvement, which is a good start. Claus really showed us what we’re missing - unfortunately, his average will be too high next time Leon is unavailable. Borke has a lot of potential, but I will say, he has a lot of average races, and whilst he looks great at Ashfield (and did well on his visit to Berwick last year), he needs to show improvement at other tracks. It’ll be interesting to see his progression this year, but if he does, he’ll be a great asset for the Bandits. I do think his performances haven’t quite justified the hype just yet though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted April 20 Report Share Posted April 20 2 hours ago, TheWellBehavedWorrall said: Borke is a rider. I can’t imagine he’ll be at reserve for long. Berwick have a great talent on their hands there. Can see it taking a while, Berwick have good second strings, plus carrying last year's heats means it will take Borke longer to move out if the reserve berth. I could be wrong but I think he'll struggle if he moves into the top 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted April 20 Report Share Posted April 20 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Tapeworm said: But, if he was gating successfully, that would suggest that there was little wrong with the power/torque being produced by that engine so a different engine might not be the solution. Perhaps ragdoll's theory about his exit technique, and speed, coming out of bends 2 and 4 reveals the real cause of a reduced speed down the straights? Again, if so, this is something with which he could be helped by a more-experienced teammate. The bike setup was great for getting out the gate all night but when it hit the dirt it was sapping the power out the engine hence the loss of straight line speed coming off the the bend he made a changes but didn't work much better so was trying to keep it out the deeper stuff his engine was good but just not strong enough ,scoring double his ave in his 1st home meeting and some people still moaning lol Edited April 20 by mac101 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted April 20 Report Share Posted April 20 11 minutes ago, mac101 said: The bike setup was great for getting out the gate all night but when it hit the dirt it was sapping the power out the engine hence the loss of straight line speed coming off the the bend he made a changes but didn't work much better so was trying to keep it out the deeper stuff his engine was good but just not strong enough ,scoring double his ave in his 1st home meeting and some people still moaning lol Don’t see how Tigers fans can complain about Starke last night,his two 5/1s with Claus probably won them the match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted April 20 Report Share Posted April 20 8 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Don’t see how Tigers fans can complain about Starke last night,his two 5/1s with Claus probably won them the match. Yeah not entirely sure what the issue is. He's ridden 6 heats at ashfield so far so obviously still finding the set up, same as JP. He was clever in front and never really looked like getting passed despite not pulling away. I'm not sure I like him at number 4, could leave us exposed in heat 14 but that's an argument for another day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macca Posted April 20 Report Share Posted April 20 14 hours ago, Cast1rn said: At Berwick and Ashfield yes, wait till he gets the joys of armadale and Plymouth. To be honest, as uncomfortable as Borke looked around Armadale, he’ll probably still have enough to get the better of Coles and James. Would expect him to ride to his average at least. Plymouth be interesting though given they’re stronger at reserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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