szkocjasid Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 5 hours ago, GiveusaB said: Totally agree with that! Be interesting to see if anyone can beat Douglas? hes' unbelievably good around PB! 4 hours ago, StephenMiller said: Douglas, Masters and Lawson are all usually excellent around Perry Barr so the Brummies will have their hands full tonight i think. 3 hours ago, GiveusaB said: Becker was no slouch on his last visit, if I remember rightly? Can't see many B'ham race wins! I've not seen much racing at Perry Barr to comment on the form of Douglas, Lawson & Masters, but don't forget in the last couple of years they've been racing against a very weak Brummies side, certainly at heat leader level, so any Champ heat leader should have been putting up good scores there. Has Becker ridden much at PB? Won't be so easy against Nicholls, Brennan & Pawlicki. Tough to call, as on paper I see no reason why Brummies can't win. But after their performance against Oxford (excluding Nicholls & Brennan) I find it hard to back them to beat anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen52 Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 Firstly I think this meeting is in the hands of the weather gods, I have been to and from Bilston to Atherstone and Bagworth near to Market Bosworth, and to put it bluntly it threw a bit of everything at me, Thunder, Lightening, Strong winds, Hail, Heavy rain showers, and Sun, it was really heavy stuff over Leicester way but not so bad around Birmingham and the Black country, so long as we don't get to much of the heavy stuff that wind should dry the track out from the heavier showers that we have had so far, that's the weather assesment over with now to the meeting. If Birmingham can't win this meeting with Scottie guesting for Lampart then they will struggle to win any meeting, Leicester have some decent Heat leaders but most of them have been inconsistant so far this season, Birmingham have struggled so far without a genuine No1 until tonight when Pawlicki makes his debut, basically there are to many if's but's and maybe's to forecast a winner if Leicester's heat leaders can get heir gating gloves on then they should win, but if they don't then they won't, if Pawlicki performs as he can and gets back up from Milik and Scottie then the Brummies will shade it, as I have no doubts Birmingham's reserves are stronger, but in summary too close to call but whoever gates best will win on a track that has proven itself to be a bit of a gaters paradise over recent seasons. Just a heads up, the 3rd & 4th bends have given a bit of help when riding a wide line, the 1st & 2nd bend has so far this season done nothing but cost riders when they have gone out wide (not even Bomber) hopefully someone may try something different around bends 1&2 tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 27 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: I've not seen much racing at Perry Barr to comment on the form of Douglas, Lawson & Masters, but don't forget in the last couple of years they've been racing against a very weak Brummies side, certainly at heat leader level, so any Champ heat leader should have been putting up good scores there. Has Becker ridden much at PB? Won't be so easy against Nicholls, Brennan & Pawlicki. Tough to call, as on paper I see no reason why Brummies can't win. But after their performance against Oxford (excluding Nicholls & Brennan) I find it hard to back them to beat anyone. That's a fair point! Becker hasn't ridden many times at PB, but he has improved every time I've seen him! Have to see with Pawlicki....I dont know what to expect? But apart from Nicholls, I think the other B'ham riders will struggle to cope with Leicesters main 5! If B'ham Reserves don't outscore Leicester's by at least double...then there's no hope at all! Drew Kemp is easily capable of beating Cook and Flint if he gates! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie456 Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 20 minutes ago, GiveusaB said: That's a fair point! Becker hasn't ridden many times at PB, but he has improved every time I've seen him! Have to see with Pawlicki....I dont know what to expect? But apart from Nicholls, I think the other B'ham riders will struggle to cope with Leicesters main 5! If B'ham Reserves don't outscore Leicester's by at least double...then there's no hope at all! Drew Kemp is easily capable of beating Cook and Flint if he gates! Trust me Pawlicki will become a big fan favourite at PB 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 14 hours ago, Spiderman1 said: Kemp and Thompson will come good ,just need another season or 2 Thomson possibly, Kemp seems to have been needing another season or 2 for the last 3 or 4, so seems to have got to his level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 1 hour ago, gazzac said: Thomson possibly, Kemp seems to have been needing another season or 2 for the last 3 or 4, so seems to have got to his level. Thompson will never make it above Div 3/2 level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 22 hours ago, TTT said: Birmingham to bounce back with a win. The reserves will see them over the line in a close one (47-43) I don't understand Leicester's line-up at all, Why on earth would you put a struggling Sam Masters at No.5 to partner the already struggling reserves Kemp & Thompson? 4 hours ago, Big Al said: Clutching at straws to figure this one out but maybe trying to shake Masters out of being able to hide himself in the 3/4 zone? Could have moved him to 2 but would that have just kept that going? Maybe the plan was to shore up heat 8 with Joe T struggling. But surely Lawson at 3 does that too? Still can't find the logic of their change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 3 hours ago, GiveusaB said: But apart from Nicholls, I think the other B'ham riders will struggle to cope with Leicester's main 5! Pre-season I may have thought the same thing, but Leicester's top 5 haven't gone as well as I'd expect. Not that Birmingham have done much either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishersGate Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 1 hour ago, szkocjasid said: Maybe the plan was to shore up heat 8 with Joe T struggling. But surely Lawson at 3 does that too? Still can't find the logic of their change. Stewart has done it a few times in the past. He did it in the Poole semi final a few years ago and also for Glasgow I think. He usually puts the most out of form rider at 5 and basically sacrifices heat 13 in order to strengthen heat and a few others I do agree though that I still don't understand the change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 If Birmingham don't win tonight then they won't win a meeting all season. This is the strongest 1-7 Birmingham will put out all season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 Worrall had been pretty poor when I've seen him so far this season, he needs to improve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 Feel for Brum fans because it's inevitable that they're going to go under financially now before the season finishes. Nowhere near enough fans will turn up to watch a team that simply isn't competitive for the promotion to run a sustainable business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 Can't believe Leicester's reserves have scored to 5-1s against Brummies top 5. I've tried to be positive, but can't any longer, this Birmingham team is just pitiful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 Where's the grip on the track that they've spent loads on? It's a yawn fest! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 (edited) Brummies HL's can't even beat Kemp & Joe Thompson on their own track. Tolley may as well shut up shop tonight tbh unless he's got thousands of pounds to throw down a drain. Edited April 15 by TTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 42 minutes ago, TTT said: If Birmingham don't win tonight then they won't win a meeting all season. This is the strongest 1-7 Birmingham will put out all season. It's the worst bham team I've ever witnessed! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 Sadly, it was obvious from the moment all the other teams had their own heat leaders in place that Brum were going to struggle.. Every one of their riders are riding in a position (at least), one place up from where they should be.. And their two top riders are only on their "contrived" averages to make the team look competitive on paper.. Good job there wasn't eight teams in the league... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 So Douglas misses the gate and throws it ? Should be excluded! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 Bet he wins the re-run! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishersGate Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 Just using speedway updates right now. All I can say I feel so sorry for the Birmingham fans. On the other hand so happy for Joe Thompson. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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