StevePark Posted April 16, 2024 Report Share Posted April 16, 2024 On 4/16/2024 at 10:58 AM, TheWellBehavedWorrall said: I’ve just watched the highlights of this meeting on Berwick’s YouTube channel and I have one question… was Stevie Wonder the referee? Etheridge’s exclusion in heat five was beyond harsh; his front wheel was taken away from him by Thomson in what’s surely the perfect definition of first bend bunching. If that was how the referee was governing the entire meeting, then fair enough, but he then went on to allow Castagna back in the re-run of heat fourteen after clipping Borke’s rear wheel, causing a crash. I thought both incidents were the natural risks of bikes hitting a 10M wide corner with no breaks, so all four should have been back for the re-run, but for the referee to discriminate against one - arguably the least offensive, too - and not the other, is outrageous. Are referees held accountable in speedway? If Berwick dropped points on Saturday night, they would have had every right to be furious. Shocking, bizarre and outright poor refereeing. Expand Well, a referee was given a suspension after a Premiership match a few weeks ago, so draw your own conclusions from that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted April 16, 2024 Report Share Posted April 16, 2024 On 4/16/2024 at 11:32 AM, StevePark said: Well, a referee was given a suspension after a Premiership match a few weeks ago, so draw your own conclusions from that. Expand McGregor was the ref on Sat. Draw your own conclusions from that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWellBehavedWorrall Posted April 16, 2024 Report Share Posted April 16, 2024 On 4/16/2024 at 11:32 AM, StevePark said: Well, a referee was given a suspension after a Premiership match a few weeks ago, so draw your own conclusions from that. Expand Which referee and what happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyretrax Posted April 16, 2024 Report Share Posted April 16, 2024 To WBW. There is no such rule of "first bend bunching". If the race is stopped it's deemed "unsatisfactory start". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted April 16, 2024 Report Share Posted April 16, 2024 On 4/16/2024 at 12:02 PM, TheWellBehavedWorrall said: Which referee and what happened? Expand The (unnamed) ref was Dave Watters: https://britishspeedway.co.uk/miscellaneous/scb-statement-leicester-v-kings-lynn-2/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted April 16, 2024 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2024 On 4/16/2024 at 12:45 PM, StevePark said: The (unnamed) ref was Dave Watters: https://britishspeedway.co.uk/miscellaneous/scb-statement-leicester-v-kings-lynn-2/ Expand Mystery is, why was this publicised? Many instances of ref's making mistakes (only human) and there was no need to publicly pillory Mr Watters for what may or may not have been the wrong decision on the night. Better to have a quiet word... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted April 16, 2024 Report Share Posted April 16, 2024 On 4/16/2024 at 2:07 PM, crescent girl said: Mystery is, why was this publicised? Many instances of ref's making mistakes (only human) and there was no need to publicly pillory Mr Watters for what may or may not have been the wrong decision on the night. Better to have a quiet word... Expand Agree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted April 16, 2024 Report Share Posted April 16, 2024 On 4/16/2024 at 2:07 PM, crescent girl said: Mystery is, why was this publicised? Many instances of ref's making mistakes (only human) and there was no need to publicly pillory Mr Watters for what may or may not have been the wrong decision on the night. Better to have a quiet word... Expand Better ask the SCB that one. It was them who said it on their website that there was to be an investigation into the refereeing decisions that night and, after the hearing into those investigations and it was on the BSPL website when the line-ups were announced, who the referee was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted April 16, 2024 Report Share Posted April 16, 2024 On 4/16/2024 at 5:03 PM, StevePark said: Better ask the SCB that one. It was them who said it on their website that there was to be an investigation into the refereeing decisions that night and, after the hearing into those investigations and it was on the BSPL website when the line-ups were announced, who the referee was. Expand While that was the case, you have too admit it was a strange decision.Certainly not a common one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted April 16, 2024 Report Share Posted April 16, 2024 On 4/16/2024 at 5:14 PM, Fromafar said: While that was the case, you have too admit it was a strange decision.Certainly not a common one. Expand Perhaps it's the beginning of the SCB & BSPL being more open/public?? Who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted April 16, 2024 Report Share Posted April 16, 2024 On 4/16/2024 at 11:35 AM, Fromafar said: McGregor was the ref on Sat. Draw your own conclusions from that. Expand jim McGregor has been called Edinburgh's 8th man many times its always bafeled me just how many meetings he gets that involves the monarchs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie Head Posted April 16, 2024 Report Share Posted April 16, 2024 On 4/16/2024 at 10:11 PM, scaramanga said: jim McGregor has been called Edinburgh's 8th man many times its always bafeled me just how many meetings he gets that involves the monarchs Expand Jim McGregor is responsible for allocating meeting referees on behalf of the SCB - that’s a fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmon Posted April 17, 2024 Report Share Posted April 17, 2024 On 4/16/2024 at 10:11 PM, scaramanga said: its always bafeled me just how many meetings he gets that involves the monarchs Expand He can only get one meeting per month/league at each track, unless changed due to there being less meetings this year, and being a 'local' referee. Willie Dishington was due as referee at Edinburgh v Glasgow that was rained off, local referee again. The fee for a local referee is less than those from a distance away so sensible to use local referee for first fixture of season to help club cash flow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jamie Posted April 17, 2024 Report Share Posted April 17, 2024 On 4/16/2024 at 10:58 AM, TheWellBehavedWorrall said: I’ve just watched the highlights of this meeting on Berwick’s YouTube channel and I have one question… was Stevie Wonder the referee? Etheridge’s exclusion in heat five was beyond harsh; his front wheel was taken away from him by Thomson. Expand Dear Mr Wonder Kye Thomson wasn't in heat 5 when Dame Edna crashed 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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