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Stars vs Aces - 11th April 2024


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10 hours ago, TINYS said:

Some excellent racing tonight Tarasenko looks a good prospect. Thought they would have had 2 minutes silence for John Louis but he didn't even get a mention :angry:

A friend at Lynn said nothing was said about John Louis at all which is a real shame because of his standing within the sport.

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1 hour ago, Bagpuss said:

Bit of both really, largely processional but there were three last bend passes and an excellent pass by Kurtz in the latter stages of heat 11.

Track needs a little bit more dirt on it for Monday week. 

Agree,not the best but there was some excellent passes on 3 or 4 occasions.And a couple of hold your breath moments on bend 2,with riders on the same teams nearly taking their own team mate out.Tasarenko on Wojdylo and Kurtz on Bewley.

Definitely need more dirt down next week and being a bit grippier.Think we could have won this last night had that been the case.

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39 minutes ago, tellboy said:

Agree,not the best but there was some excellent passes on 3 or 4 occasions.And a couple of hold your breath moments on bend 2,with riders on the same teams nearly taking their own team mate out.Tasarenko on Wojdylo and Kurtz on Bewley.

Definitely need more dirt down next week and being a bit grippier.Think we could have won this last night had that been the case.

How many years have people been saying the track needs more dirt to make it grippier ?

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38 minutes ago, proud panther said:

How many years have people been saying the track needs more dirt to make it grippier ?

I'd say for a lot of the time some folk have been saying it's too grippy and needs less material.

I think that's the trouble with the dark, clay based shale, prep needs to be spot on for decent speedway. Not a lot of leeway either side.

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16 minutes ago, Bagpuss said:

I'd say for a lot of the time sobe folk have been saying it's too grippy and needs less material.

I think that's the trouble with the dark, clay based shale, prep needs to be spot on for decent speedway. Not a lot of leeway either side.

Spot on..

Even the NSS when "running slick" delivers much better racing than "being grippy"...

Given the handling of the bikes these days, grip can make it as near to "running on rails" as a speedway bike can get.

Fast for sure, but very processional, as all follow the same "sweet spot" around the bends..

I would think a clay based surface would be specifically difficult to get right, particularly when moisture is either within it, or in the air...

 

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Maybe the track just isn't conducive to competitive racing in the modern era? 

Straights to narrow, bends to tight etc. Grippy & slick have been tried with similar FTG results. 

It has to be down to track shape.

Maybe a bit more banking would help giving more lines out of bends 2 & 4.

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15 hours ago, Daniel Smith said:

Maybe the track just isn't conducive to competitive racing in the modern era? 

Straights to narrow, bends to tight etc. Grippy & slick have been tried with similar FTG results. 

It has to be down to track shape.

Maybe a bit more banking would help giving more lines out of bends 2 & 4.

Weve been saying this for years, it needs to be rounder, but would be a massive job bringing the corners in ,with all that concrete 

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13 minutes ago, Bagpuss said:

Yep I've mentioned it on here in the past, the scope is there to take the white line in as far as you like.....but I expect the cost would be the issue.

It cost 20k+ to widen Foxhall but that was 15 years ago now so I’d imagine the costs will have escalated quite a bit since then.

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On 4/12/2024 at 1:04 PM, Bagpuss said:

I'd say for a lot of the time some folk have been saying it's too grippy and needs less material.

I think that's the trouble with the dark, clay based shale, prep needs to be spot on for decent speedway. Not a lot of leeway either side.

Shame Buster is too tight to buy some proper shale, could be some good racing with all the quality riders over here this season.

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On 4/11/2024 at 10:17 PM, TINYS said:

Some excellent racing tonight Tarasenko looks a good prospect. Thought they would have had 2 minutes silence for John Louis but he didn't even get a mention :angry:

He's 30 i think. But will up his average this season.

On 4/12/2024 at 12:19 AM, TTT said:

I agree on that.

The problem is NKI and MPT though.

NKI is declining year on year and he's giving off Hans Andersen's final year vibes already after two poor performances in the easiest 1-5 race jacket.

MPT hasn't had a good run of form at Premiership level since Peterborough's Dad's Army Title Triumph so it could be a case of one bad injury too many.

Very early days yet. NKI scored 9 in the Peter Craven memorial meeting, which was a good start. But out of his 9 points in 2 league meetings so far, 5 points have come from HT8. As i said, very early days. But by the time our next home meeting comes around on the 22nd against Sheffield, we could well of lost our first 4 meetings (3 away, 1 home). Loosing the Sheffield meeting would be a disaster. It's a must win, as well as running our away meetings close. I'll look at the riders stats after the 5th meeting, before i get on any riders case though.  

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19 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said:

He's 30 i think. But will up his average this season.

Very early days yet. NKI scored 9 in the Peter Craven memorial meeting, which was a good start. But out of his 9 points in 2 league meetings so far, 5 points have come from HT8. As i said, very early days. But by the time our next home meeting comes around on the 22nd against Sheffield, we could well of lost our first 4 meetings (3 away, 1 home). Loosing the Sheffield meeting would be a disaster. It's a must win, as well as running our away meetings close. I'll look at the riders stats after the 5th meeting, before i get on any riders case though.  

I didn't realise Tarasenko was 30.

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It was a real shame we lost Leicester and Brum due to weather. Those two 'easier' matches would have sharpened us up before BV and Sheffield matches and may well have meant we would have beaten BV the other night

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1 hour ago, kelvinht said:

It was a real shame we lost Leicester and Brum due to weather. Those two 'easier' matches would have sharpened us up before BV and Sheffield matches and may well have meant we would have beaten BV the other night

Quite agree, we may not have done but we would have been far more prepared and dialled in. 

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