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14 minutes ago, foreverblue said:

He has a bit of Batchelor about him!

As for Ben Cook, as long as he is able to get on his bike and win races for Poole I don't care how short he is.

He's our pocket rocket 

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1 hour ago, iainb said:

Especially with the crowd it's attracted

Was that due to streaming or the weather? Probably a bit of both.

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good efforts from both the Connors, even when at the back were still going for it  also Norick making good starts, and pace. Was disappointed in Fricke his efforts not so good,  i still think he will recover his form.

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1 hour ago, mikebv said:

For the aggregate bonus point, should the return match only take the result after 14 heats ?

In this instance, it might not matter, but in others it may..

In a sport with such home team advantage, the extra heats (up to 5 if called off after Ht 10), could make a big difference....

 

That's a good point

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12 hours ago, TheWellBehavedWorrall said:

Two questions.

1. Is Rory Schlein always this pessimistic?

During the early races Rory was doing his best to remain positive about the racing “improving as track conditions improved”. 
Then the rain came. Consequently, Rory was quite right with his comments. The track, with racing on it being questionable from the off soon became barely rideable at all thus illustrating how questionable it was to start the meeting in the first place.

The best thing to come out of to the meeting was the riders remained fit. The worst thing? A bore fest & riders preferring to preserve their skins for the remainder of the season. A bad advert for speedway. So most probably a good thing not many folk there to watch it! 

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13 hours ago, iainb said:

Fricke started last season like this, he really should be doing better, especially around BV!

Always has started seasons like this.

 

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29 minutes ago, 1 valve said:

During the early races Rory was doing his best to remain positive about the racing “improving as track conditions improved”. 
Then the rain came. Consequently, Rory was quite right with his comments. The track, with racing on it being questionable from the off soon became barely rideable at all thus illustrating how questionable it was to start the meeting in the first place.

The best thing to come out of to the meeting was the riders remained fit. The worst thing? A bore fest & riders preferring to preserve their skins for the remainder of the season. A bad advert for speedway. So most probably a good thing not many folk there to watch it! 

Belle Vue is one of the safest tracks in the world, there wasn't a single fall last night and nobody really looked like they were getting into much trouble, yes visibilty was an issue and the track was pretty much shot by heat 14. If we're going to wait for perfect conditions, especially in Manchester, we may as well shut up shop now.

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33 minutes ago, 1 valve said:

During the early races Rory was doing his best to remain positive about the racing “improving as track conditions improved”. 
Then the rain came. Consequently, Rory was quite right with his comments. The track, with racing on it being questionable from the off soon became barely rideable at all thus illustrating how questionable it was to start the meeting in the first place.

The best thing to come out of to the meeting was the riders remained fit. The worst thing? A bore fest & riders preferring to preserve their skins for the remainder of the season. A bad advert for speedway. So most probably a good thing not many folk there to watch it! 

Yeah, I thought Schlein’s pre-meeting track walk was great and he clearly has the personality for media work, but he went proper glass half empty when it started raining.

I felt like I was listening to a Union rep with a background in HSE.

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1 minute ago, W9 Lion said:

Always has started seasons like this.

 

I've not really followed his career before he joined Leicester, but he's a big boy now and should have eradicated this from his game. Poor matches for a rider of Max's calibre should be 9's, 10's & 11's... not the 4's, 6's & 7's he's been getting and these on tracks he should be more than familiar with by now. I know he'll come good, he's a quality rider, we can't afford to be getting 3/4 of a season out of him with our lack of top end power elsewhere in the team

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1 minute ago, TheWellBehavedWorrall said:

I felt like I was listening to a Union rep with a background in HSE.

Red Rory! Everybody Out! :D

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On the subject of the quality of racing and rider safety, it’s a tough one. I’ve never sat on a speedway bike, so I’m hardly qualified to comment.

Having said that, I do feel the appetite for racing has decreased. I don’t think I’d be incorrect to suggest several riders chucked in the towel last night.

I remember the City of Glasgow International, the night after the 1995 British GP at Hackney. Glasgow managed to persuade several GP riders - Hans Nielsen, for example - to remain in the UK for one more night at Shawfield. I’m sure it was October, but I’m absolutely certain the weather was worse than it was last night. Yet, every rider gave their all. If my memory serves me right, Ronnie Correy won the meeting.

Rory Schlein would have been having kittens if he was on commentary that night.

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8 minutes ago, TheWellBehavedWorrall said:

On the subject of the quality of racing and rider safety, it’s a tough one. I’ve never sat on a speedway bike, so I’m hardly qualified to comment.

Having said that, I do feel the appetite for racing has decreased. I don’t think I’d be incorrect to suggest several riders chucked in the towel last night.

I remember the City of Glasgow International, the night after the 1995 British GP at Hackney. Glasgow managed to persuade several GP riders - Hans Nielsen, for example - to remain in the UK for one more night at Shawfield. I’m sure it was October, but I’m absolutely certain the weather was worse than it was last night. Yet, every rider gave their all. If my memory serves me right, Ronnie Correy won the meeting.

Rory Schlein would have been having kittens if he was on commentary that night.

We all know that if you ask the riders for their opinions on a track on any given night you'll get 14 different opinions. Some leave their brains in the toolbox and will just go for it and others will, understandably, have concerns, especially if they've had big injuries in the past. On tricky tracks some will have career best performances, I remember Lol Hare going through the card at Cov many years ago scoring an 18 point maximum on a well dodgy track, I don't think he ever scored as well again!

 

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26 minutes ago, iainb said:

Belle Vue is one of the safest tracks in the world, there wasn't a single fall last night and nobody really looked like they were getting into much trouble, yes visibilty was an issue and the track was pretty much shot by heat 14. If we're going to wait for perfect conditions, especially in Manchester, we may as well shut up shop now.

A perfect track is not required to produce the type of excellent, entertaining racing regularly seen at BV.
But realistically, last night, all things considered the shop should have stayed closed on this occasion. 

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But realistically, last night, all things considered the shop should have stayed closed on this occasion. 

I couldn't disagree more, there was absolutely nothing wrong with the track last night, a bit heavy? Yes. The Belle Vue lads seemed to be revelling in it! Leicester were poor out of the start and then poor for the rest of the race, it's not the first time Leicester have fallen to pieces at the NSS and probably won't be the last!

On what basis would you have abandoned/postponed the meeting before heat 1?

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10 minutes ago, iainb said:

I couldn't disagree more, there was absolutely nothing wrong with the track last night, a bit heavy? Yes. The Belle Vue lads seemed to be revelling in it! Leicester were poor out of the start and then poor for the rest of the race, it's not the first time Leicester have fallen to pieces at the NSS and probably won't be the last!

On what basis would you have abandoned/postponed the meeting before heat 1?

Poor weather forecast, Fans unlikely to see 15 heats, A track  not conducive to racing on (via riders from each team).
But I would agree to run it to get a fixture out of the way given I was already too late to avoid paying riders travel, stadium & other operating costs.  

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I’ve just read on the British Speedway website that Connor Bailey said ”it was a fantastic meeting until the weather came in”.

Can we get the same test Complin had at Berwick for Bailey please? I think, no, I’m certain he’s under the influence of drugs.

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