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GP 1st round Gorican Saturday 27th April


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3 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said:

Is it just me or has the SGP series become horrifically stale? 

Apart from Lambert.I just can't engage with these rider's, they just bore me.

The whole thing needs a freshen up imo

That's fine. Get rid of Zmarzlik, Holder, Bewley etc...

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Well those predicting Jason Doyle’s demise in the series might have been a bit premature! - but it’s a long series so let’s see - based on tonight Woffindens days in the series might be numbered - but better tracks might yield different results! 
 

Jack Holder certainly the best in show tonight! 
 

fairly routine and largely dull event tho 

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Have seen worse GP's. The track seemed to change quite a few times and those with experience dealt with that best, but generally if you were left behind you were screwed.

Holder a very worthy winner, hopefully he can stop it being a one horse race.

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Really can't understand the point of the scoring system, for example Woffinden 3 points = 1 GP point. 

If Woffy had fallen off instead of winning one race, he'd still score the same single point!

Then you have Kvech, Wozniak & Vaculik all scoring 6 points, but Vaculik gets 2 more GP points than Kvech - is this really the best they can come up with?

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18 minutes ago, szkocjasid said:

Really can't understand the point of the scoring system, for example Woffinden 3 points = 1 GP point. 

If Woffy had fallen off instead of winning one race, he'd still score the same single point!

Then you have Kvech, Wozniak & Vaculik all scoring 6 points, but Vaculik gets 2 more GP points than Kvech - is this really the best they can come up with?

Must admit it was better when ALL points counted.....

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Personally I thought it was a pretty decent GP, above average in fact compared to recent years. It may not be racing for the purist, but the way the bikes and tracks are riders seem to have to be pretty extreme to make any moves and use the ruts, it certainly makes for entertainment and the FIM don't seem to be in any hurry to tone the bikes down. Heat 15 was purist stuff and a great race!

None of the noobs disgraced themselves and probably did at least as good as some of the journeyman that have been cast aside this year with maybe Huckenbeck being the stand out. 

Maybe the reason a lot of the field don't resonate with some is because we just don't get to see most of them regularly in this country anymore?

As for Woffy, for me he's at the stage of his career where he's quite comparable to Doyley and the contrast between the 2 is blindingly obvious to see, just the body language on the bike, Doyley looks as though he'd do almost anything to get back to the top, his semi final 2nd place was all you needed to see, brilliant stuff, Woffy... I can see him retiring from Speedway at the end of the year. 

Well done to Jack Holder, very impressive,  I like his style, just the right amount of arrogance without going over the top with it and he's able to back it up unlike Woffy these days.  

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A decent meeting with some excellent speedway. So good to see someone other than Zmarzlik winning.

Lambert sadly went backwards in his last 2 important heats but well done to Holder.

Track got rougher as the meeting went on and glad that gate 4 came good in the last 2 important heats, Freddie made good use of it in the final.

Woffy looked completely disinterested pulling up when at the back is a pet hate of mine.

Bewley has speed but gets lost in traffic.

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3 minutes ago, stevebrum said:

Bewley has speed but gets lost in traffic.

He was also out wide looking for grip when there wasn't any...

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3 hours ago, andout said:

Must admit it was better when ALL points counted.....

I will say this again; at least this system guarantees that the GP winner gets the most points!

I HATE when people do this, but here's how it WOULD have looked under the old system (with comparison in brackets)...

18 - Holder (-2)
14 - Zmarzlik (=)
12 - Lambert (=)
12 - Doyle (-6)
11 - Huckenbeck (=)
11 - Lindgren (-5)
  9 - Madsen (-1)
  8 - Kubera (-1)
  7 - Michelsen (-1)
  6 - Vaculik (-1)
  6 - Wozniak (=)
  6 - Kvech (+1)
  5 - Lebedevs (+1)
  5 - Bewley (+2)
  4 - Zagar (+2)
  3 - Woffinden (+2)
  

 

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4 hours ago, chunky said:

I will say this again; at least this system guarantees that the GP winner gets the most points!

1) there are far better ways to achieve that

2) this won't be the case in the Cardiff & Warsaw GPs. I find it odd they created a system for the reason you said, then qualifying can stop the GP winner being top scorer.

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7 hours ago, chunky said:

I will say this again; at least this system guarantees that the GP winner gets the most points!

I HATE when people do this, but here's how it WOULD have looked under the old system (with comparison in brackets)...

18 - Holder (-2)
14 - Zmarzlik (=)
12 - Lambert (=)
12 - Doyle (-6)
11 - Huckenbeck (=)
11 - Lindgren (-5)
  9 - Madsen (-1)
  8 - Kubera (-1)
  7 - Michelsen (-1)
  6 - Vaculik (-1)
  6 - Wozniak (=)
  6 - Kvech (+1)
  5 - Lebedevs (+1)
  5 - Bewley (+2)
  4 - Zagar (+2)
  3 - Woffinden (+2)
  

 

Big difference for Lindgren and Doyle and also those towards the bottom. Although as Chris Louis mentioned Lindgren and Doyle did not win a race all night yet both ended up on the podium!

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They kept saying Zagar doesn't have a club, I thought someone had said before that he is riding in Denmark? 

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2 minutes ago, SPEEDY69 said:

They kept saying Zagar doesn't have a club, I thought someone had said before that he is riding in Denmark? 

I tell you what, er, erm, er... they kept saying lots of things... Freddie Lindgren had long Covid... who knew?!?

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14 minutes ago, SPEEDY69 said:

They kept saying Zagar doesn't have a club, I thought someone had said before that he is riding in Denmark? 

Grindsted

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