screm Posted April 7, 2024 Report Share Posted April 7, 2024 On 4/7/2024 at 9:23 AM, Bandit59 said: Surely all riders should know which medication are safe to take and which aren't assuming that's what it is. Expand If they don`t then they have a duty to find out, there is enough information out there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted April 7, 2024 Report Share Posted April 7, 2024 (edited) On 4/7/2024 at 9:35 AM, Tosh1218 said: As a Speedway fan I really hope Complin offence is an innocent one and he’s back on track soon , too many are judging and giving there thoughts on last nights events .Speedway is in decline and negative comments aren’t helping . The law of the land is”Innocent until proven guilty “ and hope this is the case in Lee Complins .Speedway doesn’t need scandals as year on year the support is dwindling . Ps I’m not a Tigers fan I’m a speedway fan who is seeing it diminish year on year Expand He's already been proven not innocent, we're just waiting for him to be proved guilty now, how often does the 2nd test come back different to the first test using the same sample? The same old excuses being trotted out again just like they were in all of the cases last year. Edited April 7, 2024 by iainb 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted April 7, 2024 Report Share Posted April 7, 2024 On 4/7/2024 at 9:40 AM, tyretrax said: I think some people should be careful about what they say, just because their real name isn't used doesn't mean that they can't be traced. Expand Really! Who has ever been prosecuted for anything said on this forum? If it was an innocent mistake I am sure it will be resolved quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted April 7, 2024 Report Share Posted April 7, 2024 On 4/7/2024 at 9:52 AM, iainb said: He's already been proven guilty, we're just waiting for him to be proved guilty again, how often does the 2nd test come back different to the first test using the same sample? The same old excuses being trotted out again just like they were in all of the cases last year. Expand Fans find it difficult to come to terms with their own rider doing something like this especially with the Richie Worrall case still fresh in the memory and considering how experienced these riders are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazS Posted April 7, 2024 Report Share Posted April 7, 2024 On 4/6/2024 at 9:07 PM, davie10 said: jack smith has been around for to long never going to make it so well left alone Expand yes and lee Complin is like brand new. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lioness Posted April 7, 2024 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 7, 2024 On 4/6/2024 at 11:14 PM, BanditsFan said: Don’t exactly see what is wrong? At the age of 39 do you really think it is the first time Lee is ‘on the sniff?’ I know for a fact it isn’t. That is why Glasgow won the league last season. FACT. Expand You do realise that just because it’s an internet forum and you are using a Nick name, it doesn’t mean you can’t be sued for slander? I can’t comment on the actual test speedway does trackside as these tests differ but from my pharmacy experience for those thinking ‘oh a list is issued of banned substances’ it’s not really as simple as that. Medication can have things in it that you don’t expect - that’s how Alain Baxter lost his Olympics medal, he took a sniff of Vicks. some assume OTC meds are ok but that’s not the case - many common meds such as hay fever relief tablets can’t be used as it would make you fail the drug test. All that is before taking into account that two medications taken together can heighten the strength and effect of a drug - that’s why people used to take the OTC Co codamol with full strength Coca Cola. It is a minefield and from the basic information we have then it is probably best to wait for the lab results and comments before judging an individual. Even then though Bandits Fan, it’s wise not to open yourself up to slander accusations with random accusations Just my opinions obviously 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted April 7, 2024 Report Share Posted April 7, 2024 While the Complin issue put a it of dampener on it for Tigers fans it was a decent match and bit of tension in the later stages,very enjoyable.IMO. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BacktrackBandit Posted April 7, 2024 Report Share Posted April 7, 2024 On 4/7/2024 at 10:09 AM, Lioness said: You do realise that just because it’s an internet forum and you are using a Nick name, it doesn’t mean you can’t be sued for slander? I can’t comment on the actual test speedway does trackside as these tests differ but from my pharmacy experience for those thinking ‘oh a list is issued of banned substances’ it’s not really as simple as that. Medication can have things in it that you don’t expect - that’s how Alain Baxter lost his Olympics medal, he took a sniff of Vicks. some assume OTC meds are ok but that’s not the case - many common meds such as hay fever relief tablets can’t be used as it would make you fail the drug test. All that is before taking into account that two medications taken together can heighten the strength and effect of a drug - that’s why people used to take the OTC Co codamol with full strength Coca Cola. It is a minefield and from the basic information we have then it is probably best to wait for the lab results and comments before judging an individual. Even then though Bandits Fan, it’s wise not to open yourself up to slander accusations with random accusations Just my opinions obviously Expand It’s common knowledge, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BacktrackBandit Posted April 7, 2024 Report Share Posted April 7, 2024 (edited) On 4/7/2024 at 10:13 AM, BanditsFan said: It’s common knowledge, no? Expand Hope it’s no true as I really like Complin as a rider but from what everyone who was at the meeting last night was saying, it seems like this is going to end only one way. Will be the first to hold my hands up if I’m wrong Edited April 7, 2024 by BanditsFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted April 7, 2024 Report Share Posted April 7, 2024 On 4/7/2024 at 10:20 AM, BanditsFan said: Hope it’s no true as I really like Complin as a rider but from what everyone who was at the meeting last night was saying, it seems like this is going to end only one way. Will be the first to hold my hands up if I’m wrong Expand That's a fair bit of backtracking from your comment last night...FACT 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BacktrackBandit Posted April 7, 2024 Report Share Posted April 7, 2024 On 4/7/2024 at 10:24 AM, Jaizer said: That's a fair bit of backtracking from your comment last night...FACT Expand Wait and see… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cast1rn Posted April 7, 2024 Report Share Posted April 7, 2024 On 4/7/2024 at 10:24 AM, Jaizer said: That's a fair bit of backtracking from your comment last night...FACT Expand That's the biggest 180, I've ever seen online, doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out who eachother is. I know who forum members are they know who members are, the forum members they know they then know who members are and Boom you've been identified. Always better to keep schtum on scenarios like this until it's out in black and white, which should be in a few days. Then you can blast away or if the alternative result comes up you won't look silly. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSC67 Posted April 7, 2024 Report Share Posted April 7, 2024 On 4/7/2024 at 10:20 AM, BanditsFan said: Hope it’s no true as I really like Complin as a rider but from what everyone who was at the meeting last night was saying, it seems like this is going to end only one way. Will be the first to hold my hands up if I’m wrong Expand Is that the sound of a reversing alarm I hear, with a u-turn like that you should be a politician, or maybe it was just a fishing trip looking for a few bites , if it was looks like you were successful 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit59 Posted April 7, 2024 Report Share Posted April 7, 2024 On 4/7/2024 at 10:39 AM, DSC67 said: Is that the sound of a reversing alarm I hear, with a u-turn like that you should be a politician, or maybe it was just a fishing trip looking for a few bites , if it was looks like you were successful Expand Beep beep beep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioness Posted April 7, 2024 Report Share Posted April 7, 2024 On 4/7/2024 at 10:13 AM, BanditsFan said: It’s common knowledge, no? Expand Obviously not. That’s fine though, if you don’t want to take a piece of friendly advice that’s fine, your decision . It might be prudent to check your proof is fail safe just in case 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpenRake Posted April 7, 2024 Report Share Posted April 7, 2024 On 4/7/2024 at 10:09 AM, Lioness said: You do realise that just because it’s an internet forum and you are using a Nick name, it doesn’t mean you can’t be sued for slander? I can’t comment on the actual test speedway does trackside as these tests differ but from my pharmacy experience for those thinking ‘oh a list is issued of banned substances’ it’s not really as simple as that. Medication can have things in it that you don’t expect - that’s how Alain Baxter lost his Olympics medal, he took a sniff of Vicks. some assume OTC meds are ok but that’s not the case - many common meds such as hay fever relief tablets can’t be used as it would make you fail the drug test. All that is before taking into account that two medications taken together can heighten the strength and effect of a drug - that’s why people used to take the OTC Co codamol with full strength Coca Cola. It is a minefield and from the basic information we have then it is probably best to wait for the lab results and comments before judging an individual. Even then though Bandits Fan, it’s wise not to open yourself up to slander accusations with random accusations Just my opinions obviously Expand Spot on Lioness. There have been lots of opinions posted regarding last night's meeting at Berwick, some I agree with some I don't but that's my opinion. There is however a big difference between offering an opinion and making statements which they claim to be a 'FACT', which one poster has done. You clearly know more about medication and testing, but I would add that I'm aware of a number of work colleagues being advised after a basic works medical to see their doctor as a urine test had indicated they could be diabetic. A blood test at their doctor's showed they weren't diabetic. I think that is another reason for the wording used by the Speedway authorities as testing at the lab can identify more clearly was has or hasn't been taken. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit59 Posted April 7, 2024 Report Share Posted April 7, 2024 Lots of editing going on in someone's posts on here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted April 7, 2024 Report Share Posted April 7, 2024 (edited) On 4/7/2024 at 11:09 AM, SharpenRake said: Spot on Lioness. There have been lots of opinions posted regarding last night's meeting at Berwick, some I agree with some I don't but that's my opinion. There is however a big difference between offering an opinion and making statements which they claim to be a 'FACT', which one poster has done. You clearly know more about medication and testing, but I would add that I'm aware of a number of work colleagues being advised after a basic works medical to see their doctor as a urine test had indicated they could be diabetic. A blood test at their doctor's showed they weren't diabetic. I think that is another reason for the wording used by the Speedway authorities as testing at the lab can identify more clearly was has or hasn't been taken. Expand so true about weaker first time testing as in road side or track side not sure what test the scb do if its a dip or swipe or something better a place near me suspended 4 workers for cocaine only to be cleared by proper tests 5 off us at work were told on a medical for our operators license to go for proper eye test or doctors as we might have brain tumour all off us are still fine and clear of brain tumour and also the same medicals over the years have suggested diabetic issue with various people who were also clear and they were done at our local vets oh sorry hospital at the end of the day speedway riders are adrenaline junkies so no real surprise some look for kicks in other ways off season Edited April 7, 2024 by scaramanga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted April 7, 2024 Report Share Posted April 7, 2024 I imagine a lot of us have strong opinions on drug taking, drug testing and the disciplinary process, but they are best aired in the generally away from a single specific case - particularly one about which the facts are not yet known/in the public domain 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickinho Posted April 7, 2024 Report Share Posted April 7, 2024 (edited) On 4/7/2024 at 10:09 AM, Lioness said: You do realise that just because it’s an internet forum and you are using a Nick name, it doesn’t mean you can’t be sued for slander?I Expand You do realise that he lives in Scotland and can be sent to prison for seven years just for upsetting you Who cares! Chill. You're making this forum way too serious and unenjoyable. Edited April 7, 2024 by Nickinho 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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