IainB Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 6 minutes ago, RoundTheBoards said: From the laws of Football: "A person can be sent off from the time the referee goes onto the pitch for the pre-match inspection until the referee leaves the pitch after the end of the game, including during half-time, the break before extra time, extra time, half-time of extra time and penalties." So pretty much the same as speedway where the referee takes charge from the moment he arrives. The referee was within his rights to exclude Complin from the meeting Good research, thanks... I don't doubt the ref carried out their duties to the letter of the law as it currently stands. The point is, should the rule be in the rule book in the first place? Obviously it's a matter of opinion, mine is that teams should be offered a facility to enable 4 riders to be called for every race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 11 minutes ago, DSC67 said: The racing may not have started but the meeting started when the riders sign in , sports like football and athletics usually do the testing after the match or race has finished and they are suspended from the next match or whatever Speedway always used to test after meetings as well, I suppose the testing team are on double time at the time in the night so this is the cheaper option... but would you want somebody under the influence of vicks night nurse starting a speedway meeting? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanBrannan Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 (edited) Here is a download link to the rulebook, chapter 8 covers Anti Doping & Testing. Everything is covered in there.. It’s all in the rules and every rider & official knows the process and what happens next. It doesn’t matter what football does, speedway has its own rules but tests are conducted inline with WADA rules. http://www.scbgb.co.uk/download.php?view.11233 Edited April 7 by IanBrannan 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 24 minutes ago, screm said: So what did we all think of the actual meeting. Very good,refreshing to have a lot of new faces who look to be keen to impress.Heres hoping for a good season of racing.Track looks good.Not sure if the banking on 3rd/4th bend have been reduced slightly but it looks different and certainly seems to ride different.Just my thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 2 minutes ago, IanBrannan said: Here is a download link to the rulebook, chapter 8 covers Anti Doping & Testing. Everything is covered in there.. It’s all in the rules and every rider & official knows the process and what happens next. It doesn’t matter what football does, speedway has its own rules but tests are conducted inline with WADA rules. http://www.scbgb.co.uk/download.php?view.11233 Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 4 minutes ago, IanBrannan said: Here is a download link to the rulebook, chapter 8 covers Anti Doping & Testing. Everything is covered in there.. It’s all in the rules and every rider & official knows the process and what happens next. It doesn’t matter what football does, speedway has its own rules but tests are conducted inline with WADA rules. http://www.scbgb.co.uk/download.php?view.11233 I don't think anybody is doubting that the rules were followed correctly are they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSC67 Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 13 minutes ago, iainb said: Speedway always used to test after meetings as well, I suppose the testing team are on double time at the time in the night so this is the cheaper option... but would you want somebody under the influence of vicks night nurse starting a speedway meeting? That’s the reason certain painkillers and the like are banned in cycling, don’t want someone nodding off in the middle of the peloton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 7 hours ago, Bandit59 said: Beep beep beep Most double down when they realise they have made a James Hunt off it to save face. In this case he has decided to back down and still made a James Hunt off it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Gazc said: Most double down when they realise they have made a James Hunt off it to save face. In this case he has decided to back down and still made a James Hunt off it. James Hunt was a legend... I prefer a Jeremy Hunt, now he's a real cu... Edited April 7 by iainb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tosh1218 Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 I think certain posters are enjoying this, we need a quick response tomorrow and move forward for the sake of the sport . Not a Glasgow fan but hoping it gets resolved soon and it’s a negative test 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alang Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 5 hours ago, TracksideView said: He stayed all night and helped in the pits Does that not seem a bit strange? If he was deemed unfit to race because of a non negative test you'd wonder if he was safe to be involved in the pits. Other posters seem keen to use the football analogy. Are they not sent to the dressing room after a red card. Don't think they are allowed to sit on the bench giving advice. Different sports I know but just seems bit weird to me - or maybe I'm just a bit weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 Who’s available to replace him for the season then? If he’s guilty. I know the Glasgow promotion will no doubt be furious if he is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 I don't think complin is guilty of any wrong doing,he wouldn't have stayed and helped team mates if he had knowingly taken recreational drugs,or alcohol. Also having spoke with him on a few occasions when he rode for Plymouth he just doesn't strike me as the type to dabble in banned substances personally I think he's a top bloke and I'd be surprised and disappointed if he's guilty of any wrong doing. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 2 minutes ago, lewy said: I don't think complin is guilty of any wrong doing,he wouldn't have stayed and helped team mates if he had knowingly taken recreational drugs,or alcohol. Also having spoke with him on a few occasions when he rode for Plymouth he just doesn't strike me as the type to dabble in banned substances personally I think he's a top bloke and I'd be surprised and disappointed if he's guilty of any wrong doing. If his 2nd test does come back negative, and like you I hope it does, it'd make the fact that Glasgow were forced to ride with 6 even more of a mockery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 4 minutes ago, iainb said: If his 2nd test does come back negative, and like you I hope it does, it'd make the fact that Glasgow were forced to ride with 6 even more of a mockery. Why !! he gave non negative when was tested on the night.Your getting into Richie Worrell mode now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Why !! he gave non negative when was tested on the night.Your getting into Richie Worrell mode now. No, I agree, I can't see the 2nd test of the same sample returning any different result, I just hope for the sports sake it does. I just don't like this no facility nonsense... when the day after the meeting the club are granted a facility, for the top 5 anyway. Edited April 7 by iainb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 7 minutes ago, iainb said: No, I agree, I can't see the 2nd test of the same sample returning any different result, I just hope for the sports sake it does. I just don't like this no facility nonsense... when the day after the meeting the club are granted a facility, for the top 5 anyway. I’m not getting this. Ace was allowed to take Lee’s ride in the meeting apart from Ht2 when it was impossible as it was the reserves race.You can’t give a top 5 a reserves race. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 (edited) 17 minutes ago, iainb said: No, I agree, I can't see the 2nd test of the same sample returning any different result, I just hope for the sports sake it does. I just don't like this no facility nonsense... when the day after the meeting the club are granted a facility, for the top 5 anyway. I believe they've changed the rules this year to allow r/r, which would have helped Birmingham & Plymouth last year, when they lost Morris & Worrall, who were only allowed to be replaced by reserves. But of course, that's no help when it's a reserve who gets suspended. Edited April 7 by szkocjasid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 52 minutes ago, Tosh1218 said: I think certain posters are enjoying this, we need a quick response tomorrow and move forward for the sake of the sport . Not a Glasgow fan but hoping it gets resolved soon and it’s a negative test Don't think Glasgow will say anything til the results are back from the lab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Fromafar said: I’m not getting this. Ace was allowed to take Lee’s ride in the meeting apart from Ht2 when it was impossible as it was the reserves race.You can’t give a top 5 a reserves race. I'm looking at the bigger picture not specifically just last night. Last year at Birmingham, when Nick Morris got busted, from memory it couldn't/wasn't announced to the crowd and they had to compete without him, at the time Brummies were going through a particularly tough time, especially with their crowds and it's not inconceivable that events like this could lead to a clubs closure, especially if a few that are turning up say stuff this for a game of soldiers, I ain't coming again. Then the very next day they are granted a facility to cover for him, well, why not on the night, what's the difference? Like I've already said, what if the meeting was abandoned and had to be re-staged, do they go into that with no facility? Even though the rest of the team may be different and they've probably been riding the previous meetings with a facility, where is the consistency? Edited April 7 by iainb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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