Capaldi Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 Was the car park alright to get out of last night? - assumed it would be a mess with the rain in the week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickinho Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 (edited) 18 minutes ago, arnieg said: I imagine a lot of us have strong opinions on drug taking, drug testing and the disciplinary process, but they are best aired in the generally away from a single specific case - particularly one about which the facts are not yet known/in the public domain From my understanding Lee has already tested positive for something and they are awaiting a second result to confirm it. Same manner in which Nick Morris and Ritchie Worrall's tests were conducted last season. If the second test comes back with the same result he will be looking at a season ending ban. Until then he is suspended. Edited April 7 by Nickinho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelinho Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 2 minutes ago, Capaldi said: Was the car park alright to get out of last night? - assumed it would be a mess with the rain in the week It was fine - much better than people had said to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cast1rn Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 19 minutes ago, Bandit59 said: Lots of editing going on in someone's posts on here Silly thing is if the original post has been quoted it stays in the original quote. Somebody had a few to many in the black and gold before heading home last night? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelinho Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 1 hour ago, BanditsFan said: Hope it’s no true as I really like Complin as a rider but from what everyone who was at the meeting last night was saying, it seems like this is going to end only one way. Will be the first to hold my hands up if I’m wrong There were a number of stories doing the rounds at the meeting, what you hear just depends on who you talk to. We'll just have to wait and see. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 Drug taking in sport brings huge shame on the participant and the club he/she represents. The can be no excuse as every sportsperson knows what and whatnot is acceptable to take in this day and age. I should imagine a quick look online will bring up all relative info needed to stay on the right side of the rules. Any doubt, ask before taking! No sympathy with anyone caught breaking the rules on illegal substances. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BacktrackBandit Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 Just now, Noelinho said: There were a number of stories doing the rounds at the meeting, what you hear just depends on who you talk to. We'll just have to wait and see. Be interesting to find out the truth. Was Complin at the meeting or did he go straight home? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster00 Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 Too much of this thread rightly or wrongly has been dedicated to the Lee Complin discussion since last nights meeting, it would be nice to move the focus back to what was a very enjoyable meeting. I wasn’t overly high on Glasgows team coming in to the season but given they have a team full of ex Bandits and Sheilfield Park specialists I knew they would provide a stiff test at home and I’m mightily happy to come away with the victory. Lewi Kerr was impressive to say the least, I really feared the worst when it was 33-33 with four races to go but the boys were fantastic and every single one of them contributed to another good win. I am hopeful we can give them as good as run for their money at Ashfield as they did for us last night and although it will be extremely difficult to get the aggregate bonus point I wouldn’t say it is out of the question. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelinho Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 Just now, BanditsFan said: Be interesting to find out the truth. Was Complin at the meeting or did he go straight home? I don't know. I didn't see him and I didn't ask. He wasn't on the track walk (but I'm guessing the rules wouldn't allow him to stay in the pits or with the team anyway). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 10 minutes ago, Capaldi said: Was the car park alright to get out of last night? - assumed it would be a mess with the rain in the week No real problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 5 hours ago, SharpenRake said: What a nasty hateful thing to say but then again no surprise when you see who's saying it. Was a joke cheer up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cast1rn Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 2 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Drug taking in sport brings huge shame on the participant and the club he/she represents. The can be no excuse as every sportsperson knows what and whatnot is acceptable to take in this day and age. I should imagine a quick look online will bring up all relative info needed to stay on the right side of the rules. Any doubt, ask before taking! No sympathy with anyone caught breaking the rules on illegal substances. As someone who has whizzed into many a cup for work and in fact been involved in the administration for testing when I was in college. If they are using the 10 strip test kit, it will have flagged up and indicated what it's detected. Cocaine is one of the strips, opiates is another strip, amphetamine,benzodiazipine etc etc. The rider and tester will have seen what's flagged up. So they are the only ones who will know exactly which strip has flagged up. Certain OTC or Prescription painkillers will flag up containing an opiate, decongestants can flag as amphetamines. Riders should as far as I know be supplied with a list of all band substances, which they can make their doctor aware of so they prescribe around the list. But don't forget they are operating to WADA standards in a sport that's underfunded at best and riders who are part time racers full time other jobbers, they don't have nutritionists and medical teams surrounding them. If a mistake has been made from a prescription drug then consideration should be taken. If recreational drugs have been used, then the book should be flung at the rider. But watching the Keyboard warrior brigade spouting utter clueless nonsense is hilarious. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 2 hours ago, screm said: You couldn`t be more wrong, especially in the case of Leon Flint. Leon has been carrying this team for a couple of years. Nothing wrong with a change of scenery. I reckon we haven’t seen the last of him in Bandits colours 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tosh1218 Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 1 hour ago, Cast1rn said: As someone who has whizzed into many a cup for work and in fact been involved in the administration for testing when I was in college. If they are using the 10 strip test kit, it will have flagged up and indicated what it's detected. Cocaine is one of the strips, opiates is another strip, amphetamine,benzodiazipine etc etc. The rider and tester will have seen what's flagged up. So they are the only ones who will know exactly which strip has flagged up. Certain OTC or Prescription painkillers will flag up containing an opiate, decongestants can flag as amphetamines. Riders should as far as I know be supplied with a list of all band substances, which they can make their doctor aware of so they prescribe around the list. But don't forget they are operating to WADA standards in a sport that's underfunded at best and riders who are part time racers full time other jobbers, they don't have nutritionists and medical teams surrounding them. If a mistake has been made from a prescription drug then consideration should be taken. If recreational drugs have been used, then the book should be flung at the rider. But watching the Keyboard warrior brigade spouting utter clueless nonsense is hilarious. A quality post 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedwaysliders Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 (edited) 12 hours ago, gmuncie said: Surely as a neutral it was better to see Pijper cover 3 of the 4 rides than a lesser rider cover all 4 I get what you are saying of course i do,but when its a team sport fans want to see 4 riders in EVERY heat.As i said before i pick my matches if i think the teams are equally matched i might get on the road a drive miles to watch,this is not about Lee Complin its about watching team racing .If it was a superstar rider that wasnt allowed to race then what,or a team were already using R/R,then what.Luckily this match was still tight but even that i love to come to places like Berwick,its making me think im under valued as a fan.The testing is great ,dont get me wrong but im just talking from a fans point of view. Edited April 7 by speedwaysliders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TracksideView Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 1 hour ago, BacktrackBandit said: Be interesting to find out the truth. Was Complin at the meeting or did he go straight home? He stayed all night and helped in the pits 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch Me If You Can Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 2 hours ago, Noelinho said: It was fine - much better than people had said to be honest. Think the strong winds helped dry it out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpenRake Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 1 hour ago, Mr Blobby said: Was a joke cheer up. Really, just to be clear, I wasn't joking. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 24 minutes ago, speedwaysliders said: I get what you are saying of course i do,but when its a team sport fans want to see 4 riders in EVERY heat.As i said before i pick my matches if i think the teams are equally matched i might get on the road a drive miles to watch,this is not about Lee Complin its about watching team racing .If it was a superstar rider that wasnt allowed to race then what,or a team were already using R/R,then what.Luckily this match was still tight but even that i love to come to places like Berwick,its making me think im under valued as a fan.The testing is great ,dont get me wrong but im just talking from a fans point of view. But Glasgow, and obviously any other team who have a rider who fails a test trackside, deserve to be punished on the night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseq7 Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 21 minutes ago, allthegearbutnaeidea said: But Glasgow, and obviously any other team who have a rider who fails a test trackside, deserve to be punished on the night. Hypothetically, in your opinion, should a meeting be rerun if a failed test ever turned out to be inaccurate? 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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