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Aces v Sheffield 01/04/24


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22 minutes ago, TTT said:

Early in the season but alarm bells were ringing at Birmingham when it comes to Sheffield.

The team is unbalanced and it's going nowhere this season with those reserves, Gilkes has to get himself fixed up with a Championship club.

Team was always unbalanced in you're going in with the top 5, That's the pay-off going top heavy.

Gilkes not going Championship is a big mistake in my opinion, agree 100% with you .

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Aces were  good today all doing there jobs apart from below par scores from bewley & kurtz ? with them scoring there usual  points we would have a decent lead ? but it is what is for the 2nd leg ?  with all 7 on form we will be ok for rest of season !!

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 we've left ourselves with a good total from that meeting. 8 points is more than achievable round owlerton.

With team we've got it was always built to have success at home, can't be surprised especially away from home when we suffer st the reserve berth, it's how we've built the 7 and we also have to consder Gilkes is coming back from an injury. With time and patience I can see us doing well and should be there or there abouts by end of the season.

 

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1 hour ago, szkocjasid said:

A few comments, especially on the updates, saying Sheffield's reserves need to get going or they are going to put pressure on the top 5 etc. But that is how the team was built, for the baulk of the scoring to come from the top 5. 

As Edwards has a sub 5 Champ average, no more can be expected of him (ideally should be a RS) but Gilkes should be doing better. Did he make a mistake by not racing in the Champ this year?

I think many were mesmerised by the star power of Sheffield's top end & overlooked their weakness at reserve.

All to play for in the second leg. If Bewley had ridden like we all know he can, Aces would already have one foot in the next round.

The problem with strong top ends as I think the witches found out last year is they have to perform each week if they don’t then they are vulnerable - Mountain looked good at Ipswich in a couple of heats last week and did his job today as well - but let’s see how the Tigers do at home - can see this tie going either way but we all know what happened last season in the final! Both J Holder and Woffinden will score heavily and they others can get this to 50+

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szkocjasid, I know that heat 8 is protected but is it just the RS in the Premiership as the reserves were swapped in the Berwick v Workington  & Poole v Oxford meetings?

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1 hour ago, tyke said:

Team was always unbalanced in you're going in with the top 5, That's the pay-off going top heavy.

Gilkes not going Championship is a big mistake in my opinion, agree 100% with you .

Is he only doing Prem and that's it? Or riding abroad as well? 

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5 minutes ago, lisa-colette said:

Is he only doing Prem and that's it? Or riding abroad as well? 

he has Poland

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10 minutes ago, lisa-colette said:

Is he only doing Prem and that's it? Or riding abroad as well? 

Under 24 and senior teams in Poland.

On the Round The Boards podcast last week he explained that nobody from the Championship contacted him until well after Christmas and by then he was already sorted with three clubs. 

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2 hours ago, IronScorpion said:

szkocjasid, I know that heat 8 is protected but is it just the RS in the Premiership as the reserves were swapped in the Berwick v Workington  & Poole v Oxford meetings?

In the Prem, RS can't be replaced, but reserve could replace number 2 (but no tac sub).

In the Champ, no tac sub in heat 8, but number 6 could replace 2 or 7.

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4 hours ago, TTT said:

Early in the season but alarm bells were ringing at Birmingham when it comes to Sheffield.

The team is unbalanced and it's going nowhere this season with those reserves, Gilkes has to get himself fixed up with a Championship club.

Sheffield could still win the league with reserves struggling away, just need to hit big scores at home, which is always possible.

I don't think they are favourites, but they can win it.

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2 hours ago, szkocjasid said:

Sheffield could still win the league with reserves struggling away, just need to hit big scores at home, which is always possible.

I don't think they are favourites, but they can win it.

I don't even think they'll make the play-offs without a change or two tbh.

Those reserves are just too weak for this years strong Premiership, They basically need a firing on all cylinders Chris Holder to compensate for the weak reserves and I just cant see it happening at his age.

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44 minutes ago, TTT said:

I don't even think they'll make the play-offs without a change or two tbh.

Those reserves are just too weak for this years strong Premiership, They basically need a firing on all cylinders Chris Holder to compensate for the weak reserves and I just cant see it happening at his age.

They’ve had 3 away meetings and been more than competitive. With a team that is arguably the best on home shale. I can’t see 4 teams bettering them over the season 

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13 minutes ago, Manifesto said:

They’ve had 3 away meetings and been more than competitive. With a team that is arguably the best on home shale. I can’t see 4 teams bettering them over the season 

I'm not convinced by them now personally, I thought the would get away with having weak reserves pre-season with the jury being out on that but when you need a super heat to beat Birmingham then it's alarming tbh especially when take into account what happened tonight with Oxford not even needing Janowski to go a dozen points up at PB.

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I think the strength of most of the squads this season means away wins are going to be quite rare, so the final table is likely to come down to aggregate points having a big impact. The Sheffield squad is built on having a very strong top 5 at home, which should see them pick up the majority of the extra points over the season. This in theory will see them into the top 4, and barring disasters they will be capable of giving any team a battle over the 2 leg play off matches.

My opinion on this might change when they finally ride at home !!

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1 hour ago, DaveWayne said:

I think the strength of most of the squads this season means away wins are going to be quite rare, so the final table is likely to come down to aggregate points having a big impact. The Sheffield squad is built on having a very strong top 5 at home, which should see them pick up the majority of the extra points over the season. This in theory will see them into the top 4, and barring disasters they will be capable of giving any team a battle over the 2 leg play off matches.

My opinion on this might change when they finally ride at home !!

It’s not that rare, 2 out of 3 Premiership matches today were won by the away team

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15 hours ago, OldtimerRay said:

It’s not that rare, 2 out of 3 Premiership matches today were won by the away team

Not rare, but how many teams come to Sheffield and win?

The team is built to win at home, and I believe at the moment we will be very difficult to beat on our own track.

Usually if you win all of your home meeting and accumulate a number of bonus points then you will more often than not make the Play Offs.

Once your in the Play Offs its anybody's game as proved last season when 3rd placed Sheffield and 4th placed Ipswich contested the Final.

If for any reason it is not working for Sheffield, then expect changes, one thing the Sheffield never afraid to do is make changes and sometimes this can appear to be brutal ask Lewis Kerr.   

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11 minutes ago, spin king said:

Not rare, but how many teams come to Sheffield and win?

The team is built to win at home, and I believe at the moment we will be very difficult to beat on our own track.

Usually if you win all of your home meeting and accumulate a number of bonus points then you will more often than not make the Play Offs.

Once your in the Play Offs its anybody's game as proved last season when 3rd placed Sheffield and 4th placed Ipswich contested the Final.

If for any reason it is not working for Sheffield, then expect changes, one thing the Sheffield never afraid to do is make changes and sometimes this can appear to be brutal ask Lewis Kerr.   

Leicester last year :party: but i think in 20+ years of attending Olwerton thats about the first time I have seen them lose at home! (admittedly I do not go every week!)

But you are right Sheffield are built to win big at home!

 

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Ipswich this year could do it ,big top two Ellis will be up for it king knows his way around owlerton .with Dan Thomson at reserve if he takes points of our reserve s it could go either way 

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